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Should divers be banned

faceNside

Starting XI
It's all very simple. The solution is a better refeering, making use of the new technologies if needed (eg. video referees). If there was no possibility to fool the referees, diving would be over.

Funny how football people don't recommend the use of these new technologies cause, in their words, they would dirty the purity of the game, while they keep moaning about players cheating.

Players won't stop cheating just for love to the game. Above all it's their job, and if they can take advantage of the weaknesses on the reglament they'll keep on it.
 

ShearerM4

Fan Favourite
faceNside said:
Funny how football people don't recommend the use of these new technologies cause, in their words, they would dirty the purity of the game, while they keep moaning about players cheating.

I'm against video during a match. The funny thing is though UEFA constantly review "violent conduct" incidents after a match and slap bans on players, yet for incidents of blatant diving/cheating they don't. Doesn't take a rocket scientist to work out what's wrong there ...

It's easy to blame the refs, they have already enough to attend to. UEFA are clowns.
 

Axolote

Senior Squad
f007ballfanb0y said:
Diving sucks.. No-one can argue with that. But until FIFA get tough, I reckon that diving has a chance of ruining this World Cup.

The only way to stop that happening is to ban those that are found to have dived - either during a match, or via video evidence afterwards - for the whole of the rest of the competition. This might leave a few teams a bit short-staffed *cough*Argentina*cough* - but it would soon put a stop to it and leave teams having to win via luck and skill, rather than CHEATING

http://www.studsupsoccer.com/?jbteam=Argentina

The answer is better referees, its simple...

And its part of the game, if the referee dont see the dive why FIFA should sanction it after the match...?

Todays referees are too slow...football is getting faster and faster and the referees are slow...

What is worse a violent foul that could injure a player or a dive that is not sanction...?

I hate violent players more than the divers, but hey, im from Argentina...The Hand of God is still a sweet memory... :)
 

ShearerM4

Fan Favourite
Axolote said:
And its part of the game, if the referee dont see the dive why FIFA should sanction it after the match...?

lol, what do you mean why ? that's the whole issue here, fairness maybe? justice?

What kind of comment is that ?
 

henry#14

Starting XI
What a BS attitude some of you have. It's a part of the game? So it spitting to an extent, but that doesn't make it right. I agree 100% with ShearerM4, these bastards should have game bans slapped on them. People don't pay money to see grown men acting like pansies and flopping about all over the place. There is absolutely no excuse for diving, NONE.
 

Spurs4Life

Starting XI
One of the main things that stood out for me when I was watching the match is how many of our national team players dive. J.Cole, A.Cole and Gerrard were all guilty of doing it against Hungary and since Beckham has moved to Real Madrid it has creeped into his game too, some of his dives are shocking. Owen is a sneaky bugger too, he dives quite a bit, but because of his squeaky clean image and the fact that he is English, he gets away with it.

I don't think this would have happened say 5-10 years ago, but undoubtedly, now with all the foreign players playing in the Premier league, some of the English players have decided to follow not only the style of play, but the diving aspect of their game. What makes me laugh is that we were playing HUNGARY, no disrespect to Hungary, but did England really need to dive against that kind of opposition?.

What makes me even more angry than anything else is the attitude of the English media. For example when Arsenal played Barca and some of the Barca players went down easily, the commentators were very quick to point that out, but when Eboue blatently dived to win the free kick which resulted in the goal, one of them said "he got tired at the end of that long run" WTF!.

As someone else said the commentator made an excuse for Gerrard's dive too. So how can we iradicate diving from English football when our media refuse to make examples of the English players who are now just as guilty of doing it as the foreign players?.
 

Axolote

Senior Squad
ShearerM4 said:
lol, what do you mean why ? that's the whole issue here, fairness maybe? justice?

What kind of comment is that ?

Who is risponsable of impart justice inside the picth...?

The answer to stop diving is better referees.

I think its brong to put diving in the same level as spitting, a hand, or a violent foul...

And its stupid to say that foreing players of the Premier are risponsable for the diving in england...

Diving always existed in professional football...if theres a referee then players will dive...
 

ShearerM4

Fan Favourite
Spurs4Life said:
As someone else said the commentator made an excuse for Gerrard's dive too. So how can we iradicate diving from English football when our media refuse to make examples of the English players who are now just as guilty of doing it as the foreign players?.

Exactly, the whole hypocrisy is disgusting. And you know it's just more media pressure on the public to put the England players on a pedestal. The scary thing is that average joe will believe it.

I remember getting into an argument a few years back when L.Robert dived to get a penalty, which we eventually scored from. As disgusting as it was there were several toon fans saying well done to the frenchman.

There's no point pointing the finger at other teams if you don't sort it out at home. I'd more than happy to see an England or Newcastle player get a ban for diving if he deserves it.
 

RUSI

El Merengue Argentino
Spurs4Life said:
One of the main things that stood out for me when I was watching the match is how many of our national team players dive. J.Cole, A.Cole and Gerrard were all guilty of doing it against Hungary and since Beckham has moved to Real Madrid it has creeped into his game too, some of his dives are shocking. Owen is a sneaky bugger too, he dives quite a bit, but because of his squeaky clean image and the fact that he is English, he gets away with it.

I don't think this would have happened say 5-10 years ago, but undoubtedly, now with all the foreign players playing in the Premier league, some of the English players have decided to follow not only the style of play, but the diving aspect of their game. What makes me laugh is that we were playing HUNGARY, no disrespect to Hungary, but did England really need to dive against that kind of opposition?.

What makes me even more angry than anything else is the attitude of the English media. For example when Arsenal played Barca and some of the Barca players went down easily, the commentators were very quick to point that out, but when Eboue blatently dived to win the free kick which resulted in the goal, one of them said "he got tired at the end of that long run" WTF!.

As someone else said the commentator made an excuse for Gerrard's dive too. So how can we iradicate diving from English football when our media refuse to make examples of the English players who are now just as guilty of doing it as the foreign players?.



Brilliant Post !

I agree 100%
 
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Virgo

Guest
well it's very hard to judge if a player took a dive, just tripped on himself or fell due to a shoulder barge.
 

Luis Ah-Hoy

Senior Squad
Axolote said:
Who is risponsable of impart justice inside the picth...?

The answer to stop diving is better referees.

I think its brong to put diving in the same level as spitting, a hand, or a violent foul...

It's obvious to anyone, that better referees would help to reduce diving... but do you really think that would be enough? I mean, the referee is just human too, no matter how good he is, and the players know that... some players are really masters of the diving art, sometimes i wonder if they don't do some diving exercises at home, every single night!

I think divers should be banned, at least 1 game... i'm withe ShearerM4 and the others... it's annoying and it's maleficent to the game... nowadays, i rather have 2 or 3 average players, that master the diving art, than have 2 or 3 good players, that know how to play soccer, and strive to perform well (without diving)!!! :kader:
 

ShearerM4

Fan Favourite
Virgo said:
well it's very hard to judge if a player took a dive, just tripped on himself or fell due to a shoulder barge.

yes, and that's why the issue is NOT on the shoulders of referees. It's the easy thing to blame them, that's what Blatter does, the easy way out.

But FIFA keep adding new technicalities to the game, making it even more difficult for refs, and then blast them when make slight mistakes. Ludicrous. And in addition to this, a lot of players now look to cheat at every opportunity, how can one man monitor all that?

The diving "problem" has to be eradicated from the top. That's why 3 match bans slapped on for important incidents the ref misses is the key. It takes some of the weight off a refs shoulders, plus helps the game.

That way it becomes a choice. If the player really wants to get another one sent off, or win a penalty he can do it, but there will be severe repercutions waiting if he does. He knows he won't get away with it.
 

henry#14

Starting XI
Will people stop saying "the key to stop diving is better referees." First off, diving is hard to spot in a crowded situation and where the game moves so quickly. As if the refs haven't got enough to deal with nowadays, people are just trying to put more blame on them.
 

Axolote

Senior Squad
I can say, that here in SA, referees cant spot a penalty, a hand, sometimes they even sanction offside from a throw in...they are always 30 mts away from the play, in the corners defenders make at least 3 penaltys in the same corner and they dont see them.

So i wouldnt expect this kind of referees to sanction a supposedly dive with a red card...

Younger and Faster referees. And maybe 2 referees in the pitch.
 

TheBlueBalla

Starting XI
retroactive cards and suspensions by review boards would end the problem, i promise you that. Refs cannot be held responsible. In fact, only in the most blatant cases should they be allowed to call simulation. They should leave the concealed acts of cheating for football bodies to identify and punish.
 


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