SG Draft 2016 - Group B

[yoyo913]

The top 2 teams advance from Group B. The 3rd placed team in Group A or B with the most votes advances.

Vote for the 2 teams you believe would finish at the top of this group. Please just vote for 2 teams. If you only vote for 1 or 3+ your votes will not count. Voting will close in 72 hours.

If you vote in the poll you are also allowed to post a vote for a 3rd team (do not vote for 3 in the poll, put this 3rd team in a post and clearly mark that it is for a tie breaker or 3rd place). In case the 3rd place tie breaker votes don't break the tie, votes will be removed (not tie breaking votes) based on lowest post count first. Non-participating members' votes will be removed before removing the vote of anyone who participated in the draft.

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Group B:

Arnau FC

Subs: Rulli, Koulibaly, Kolarov, Vrsaljko, Ander Herrera, Ben Arfa, Gabriel Jesus




cdiccico FC

Subs: 13. Willy Caballero, 18. Julian Draxler, 14. Axel Witsel, 5. Eliaquim Mangala, 8. Joao Mario, 22. Emanuele Giaccherini, 19. Radamel Falcao




Sir Didier Drogba FC

Subs: Butland, Zouma, Meunier, W Carvalho, Konaplyanka, Yarmolenko, Morata



ShiftyPowers FC

Subs: Horvath, van Dijk, Rafinha, Dier, Barkley, Saul, Sane

 

[Sir Didier Drogba]

Thanks so much for doing my team Juventino, I added the subs. It's a great team and I think you should all vote for it - there is no team in this competition it couldn't shut down and with bale and Hamsik it's lethal on the counter. We are the ultimate pressure-absorbing bus parking repeated fouling negative football sons of bitches. Also the Ukrainian wingers on my bench and Meunier means I can switch to a conventional wide 4-3-3 if necessary, and if any of you wankers are thinking that Kompany is a risk because he might get injured, note that I have Zouma on the bench to replace him. I am super busy still these few days but I should be free on time to make proper comments and votes before the polls close on Thursday.

 

[Pogba4Now]

Arnau FC is doing to leak goals with just 3 at the back. Good team but you fucked up by not selecting a proper striker and that formation. This formation will win against weak sides but there are no weak sides in this competition.

 

[ShiftyPowers]

This is such fucking bullshit. I go for a system that has dominated recently and took better players for that system, but I'm going to lose to all of these poorly thought out all-star bullshit squads that wouldn't work. I like what Sir_Didier_Drogba has done, essentially doing the same thing, but Rolls Roycing the Conte system instead of Simeone's.

Cdiccio's team would never ever fucking work. Sterling and Ozil will play right on top of each other, and so will Lukaku and Ronaldo. Ronaldo has NEVER done well with a static striker, and that's why you only see him in his career with guys like Benzema and Rooney/Tevez. His defense is extremely suspect with Barzagli in a 4 man backline with young Umtiti and a 17 year old keeper. I'll take my chances every single time with Kane or Griezmann dribbling at those defenders at pace on the counter. De Sciglio and Digne are mediocre at best for this competition.

Arnau's side will be immensely boring and easy to stop, in fact I think my team would run up one of those epic 4-0 counter attacking wins against them. There is nobody whatsoever decisive in his midfield. He's picked 4 guys who play sideways passes and keep possession. For that to work he needs someone who can play decisive passes like an Iniesta or an Ozil. The team is completely centralized with zero width to speak of. His "wingers" are even inside players. That would be the easiest team in the fucking world to stop for an organized team like mine or Sir_Didier_Drogba's and they would get ripped to shreds by a compact counter attacking team. I went with a solid system to destroy these all out, poorly thought through all-star teams, and I'm getting punished. I'm sure I'd get more votes if I had rolled out Griezmann and Sane on the wings behind Kane. With Weigl/Koke/Marchisio in a midfield 3 and that's bullshit because it would be a worse team.

 

[Pogba4Now]

Thanks god I voted for you because otherwise you would have gotten only 1 vote.

 

[Xaviesta]

This is such fucking bullshit. I go for a system that has dominated recently and took better players for that system, but I'm going to lose to all of these poorly thought out all-star bullshit squads that wouldn't work. I like what Sir_Didier_Drogba has done, essentially doing the same thing, but Rolls Roycing the Conte system instead of Simeone's.

Cdiccio's team would never ever fucking work. Sterling and Ozil will play right on top of each other, and so will Lukaku and Ronaldo. Ronaldo has NEVER done well with a static striker, and that's why you only see him in his career with guys like Benzema and Rooney/Tevez. His defense is extremely suspect with Barzagli in a 4 man backline with young Umtiti and a 17 year old keeper. I'll take my chances every single time with Kane or Griezmann dribbling at those defenders at pace on the counter. De Sciglio and Digne are mediocre at best for this competition.

Arnau's side will be immensely boring and easy to stop, in fact I think my team would run up one of those epic 4-0 counter attacking wins against them. There is nobody whatsoever decisive in his midfield. He's picked 4 guys who play sideways passes and keep possession. For that to work he needs someone who can play decisive passes like an Iniesta or an Ozil. The team is completely centralized with zero width to speak of. His "wingers" are even inside players. That would be the easiest team in the fucking world to stop for an organized team like mine or Sir_Didier_Drogba's and they would get ripped to shreds by a compact counter attacking team. I went with a solid system to destroy these all out, poorly thought through all-star teams, and I'm getting punished. I'm sure I'd get more votes if I had rolled out Griezmann and Sane on the wings behind Kane. With Weigl/Koke/Marchisio in a midfield 3 and that's bullshit because it would be a worse team.

Funny how you say some of those teams wouldn't work. Then you vote Mandieta6's awesome FIFA 17 team on the other thread.

 

[poet11]

To be honest, honorable Draft creator, I doubt that team would do much against any of the teams bar Arnau's awkward random mashup but with superior individuals. Way too defensive and basic with no genuine speed bar Bellerin. Not much creative ability either. Some basic man marking and positioning with the players the others have would easily nullify without having to do much hard work.

 

[Arnau]

You all hve no idea about the game

 

[ShiftyPowers]

Funny how you say some of those teams wouldn't work. Then you vote Mandieta6's awesome FIFA 17 team on the other thread.

He had the second best team in that group. Just because you are all obsessed with this insane idea that Di Maria is the dumbest footballer ever and has no idea how to do even basic zonal marking doesn't mean it is true. De Rossi is a pure holder/anchor man that will hold the line and cover as pivot for the guys ahead of him.

Poet, oh my counter attacking side is too defensive? Give me a fucking break, that's what it's supposed to do. Yes, of course a counter attacking style of play could never win against good teams; go back to 2008. Your ridiculous comment has bore out my suspicions about voting.

 

[poet11]

Poet, oh my counter attacking side is too defensive? Give me a fucking break, that's what it's supposed to do. Yes, of course a counter attacking style of play could never win against good teams; go back to 2008. Your ridiculous comment has bore out my suspicions about voting.

Counterattacking needs some level of pace and dribbling ability. Obviously you could win games and I'm not exactly saying its a bad team in anyway or the players-I love most of them- but its difficult to imagine against the other teams. They have far too much individual quality and enough to reduce your team to lucky breaks or pouncing on mistakes.

Arnau, please fuck off. Can you explain what that team is supposed to do and shut out not being turned over. The whole midfield looks like they'd get in the way of each other.

 

[fender]

Was gonna cast a vote for Shifty's team as well but clicked too fast.

 

[cdicicco]

Well, idk if Digne and De Sciglio are mediocre players, but they are way better than bernat and bellerin, yes the future of spain bla bla bla... DeSci and Lucas are already playing on top teams and top NT... those guys are heating the bench , Shifty midfield is poor,Koke is a good player but not world class yet, florenzi is Mr Nobody and is living of his goal against barca; Weilg is a young player as can be Umtiti and Donarumma, but Umtiti is now the future of Barca CB and Gigio is on Raiola´s team and Milan got a 30M offer from United, so something good is in there. When you talk about my defense you forgot to analize te value of Krycho and Vidal, who can help very well and cover a LOT of spaces

Lets talk about boateng and gimenez... good solid defenders, but when they play against fast players they are gone, and my attack is basically... speed with CR7 and sterling, while Lukaku may open up space and fight...

And last but not least the attack, ok Shifty, you got Griezmann who is the only real player of your team (besides Courtois), Kane is a British poor version of Crouch, but with lot of publicity, but not a team player, neither a player who appears in big matches, no real value on him, Vardy is way better... and comparing, lukaku has more goals, movements, and can fight agaist stronger defenders.

Bench? You have nothing in there, the others 3 teams have some variants, if i want i can turn in 3-5-2; 3-4-3; 4-3-2-1- 4-1-4-1.


Sorry, i know my team maybe is not the best in competition, but is way better than yours, and can work very easily. For me Shifty´s team is the weakest in this group

 

[Xaviesta]

Krycho is a top player, I wanted him but I thought Alonso fits my style better. And Jesus Christ I will never understand this. You have Ronaldo and if you pick a ST that is not Beznema or Suarez, then the team is poor. They also killed me last year because I had Ronaldo-Icardi. Ronaldo can play easily now with that kind of striker, he isn't a pure LW anymore and dependent of a mobile ST. Yes, Ronaldo would be better with fucking Suarez, who wouldn't be, but if you have Lukaku that doesn't mean Ronaldo will play like Heskey.

Digne is killin' it at Barcelona, Alba is in big shit if he doesn't improve soon. Umtiti Barzagli is fine. The midfield world class and Sterling is in great form now at City playing at RW.

My 3rd vote - cdicccico

 

[ShiftyPowers]

Bernat was Bayern's LB for 2 years while Pep experimenting with Alaba in different positions. Bellerin is the best FB in England.

You are wrong about Ronaldo and his struggles with Portugal to make a difference still illustrate this. You don't need Benzema or Suarez, just any ST who can run the channels. I'd even accept Vardy. What I won't accept is Lukaku or Giroud or Benteke or someone like that.

Weigl was the best midfielder in Germany last year except Vidal.

Your best argument, which I accept (and purposely didn't mention in my analysis) is the solid double pivot you employ.

If you don't understand counter attacking, defensive positioning, and attacking at pace, I don't know what to tell you, but Atletico does not have the most talented players, but the system works and the team is better than the individuals. Kane works hard and is absolutely a team player. Compare him to Torres who plays that role in real life and it's no competition. Florenzi is better than Saul, who I also have. My mids are better than undrafted Gabi, for example. I employ a deep defensive line, which protects Boateng and Gimenez from having to turn and chase, which I agree is each player's biggest weakness.

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[ShiftyPowers]

Finally, this is a tournament squad. Tiki taka doest succeed in these forums, it's compact counter attacking sides.

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[Xaviesta]

Ronaldo plays mostly as a lone striker for Portugal and that's enterely different. When he doesn't there's fucking Eder not a player like Lukaku. But Eder scored in the final so I guess he's better than Higuain.

 

[kp41]

Ronaldo plays mostly as a lone striker for Portugal and that's enterely different. When he doesn't there's fucking Eder not a player like Lukaku. But Eder scored in the final so I guess he's better than Higuain.

 

[ShiftyPowers]

I'd love to see a graphic of Ronaldo's production with Higuain and with Benzema.

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[cdicicco]

Ronaldo is not the same player he was at 2011, Messi neither, or Messi was a bad player with Zlatan, Etoo or Henry? Just diferent way of play. Same case when neymar and suarez arrived to barca and Bale to madrid

 

[ShiftyPowers]

Messi absolutely was different with Zlatan, and he was sold at a huge loss for a reason.

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