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Racist referee Mark Clattenberg cleared in FA scandal

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Sir Calumn

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The FA has shown, along with the media, the British Police and the referee's association, that it is a vicious racist-to-the-core organization. What a scandal.

Racist nazi Mark Clattenberg is now free to continue his hatred, with only our noble boys in blue TRULY standing up to racism in the modern game.

Shame on everyone who is not a Chelsea fan.
 

MaestroZidane

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Don't know if to laught or take it seriously... O'k, I'll admit, I laught at it. There was never any real evidence that pointed to Mark as having said "rascist" comments. Only the words from Chelsea players.

So IMO, justice has been done
 
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Look at this new evidence I uncovered and sent to the FA but they refused to consider!



 

ShiftyPowers

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Chelsea players abused the **** out of him and he was like "I'm going to report this" and so they did a preemptive strike. Mikel admitted to not hearing anything, it was obviously Terry and whoever making **** up.
 
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You obviously have not closely studies the evidence I provided, unless you consider that calling someone a nigger then doing a nazi salute does not constitute racist behaviour
 

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Its nice of Chelsea to put a man's life in danger based on what one person thought he heard.
 

Mandieta6

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**** that. Ramires told Mikel he heard Clattenburg call him a racist slur, Mikel confronted the referee and told the Chelsea representative about it. Chelsea reported it to their governing body, as they are supposed do. If Chelsea hasn't reported it, they would be chastised for trying to brush racism under the carpet. It's not they want more racial controversy. The FA even said that they do not believe Ramires acted in bad faith. English isn't his native language, after all.

There was no proof, it got thrown out. Case closed. What I'm bothered with is the FA deciding to charge Mikel NOW with misconduct. The misconduct isn't him making up the accusation (which isn't true), but him yelling at Clattenburg after the match. Why charge him after the match? Whether he had a point or not is surely irrelevant as he shouldn't have yelled at a referee. I think the FA is hoping people see "Clattenburg cleared" and "Mikel charged with misconduct" and make the assumption that he made it up. It's bull****.

ManU put Suarez's in danger when they reported him based on what Evra thought he heard. Ferdinand put Terry's based on what his girlfriend saw on a youtube vid. But sure, they're all saints and Chelsea are conniving and evil. **** off.
 

Seán D

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Mandieta6;3345457 said:
There was no proof, it got thrown out. Case closed. What I'm bothered with is the FA deciding to charge Mikel NOW with misconduct. The misconduct isn't him making up the accusation (which isn't true), but him yelling at Clattenburg after the match. Why charge him after the match? Whether he had a point or not is surely irrelevant as he shouldn't have yelled at a referee. I think the FA is hoping people see "Clattenburg cleared" and "Mikel charged with misconduct" and make the assumption that he made it up. It's bull****.

ManU put Suarez's in danger when they reported him based on what Evra thought he heard. Ferdinand put Terry's based on what his girlfriend saw on a youtube vid. But sure, they're all saints and Chelsea are conniving and evil. **** off.
I'd have sympathy if he didn't allegedly threaten to break Clattenburg's legs.

Another fine mess all round.
 

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The refs are now 'demanding' that Chelsea apologise and pay him compensation. Are you ******* serious? Chelsea followed protocol. This is unbelievable.
 

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Mandieta6;3345503 said:
The refs are now 'demanding' that Chelsea apologise and pay him compensation. Are you ******* serious? Chelsea followed protocol. This is unbelievable.

They should apologize because they were wrong. They should never have reported it as Ramires was the only one to hear it. Mikel was talking to Clattenburg when the incident is said to have occurred and heard nothing.

They should have gone to the officials quietly after the game and iron out and misunderstandings. Chelsea leaked it to the press about an hour after the game without doing their own investigation and it made them look silly.

Clattenburg has spent the last month twiddling his thumbs because of an accusation that was never going to be proved.

Would the Chelsea fans accept Clattenburg as a referee at Stamford Bridge in future?
 

Mandieta6

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That's not fact. Chelsea reported it to the FA rep after the match, they don't have to make their own investigation, they have to report it, and they did. No one heard Terry either. Being wrong about this sort of thing doesn't make you guilty of anything. Ramires thought Clattenburg racially abused Mikel, the players told the club, the club reported it to the FA. There was no wrongdoing. It got leaked because Mikel was dumb and yelled at the referee within earshot of journalists. The fact that it was never going to be proven is a problem, the refs' conversations should be recorded. It doesn't mean Chelsea should've ignored it. How would that go? "Oh, Ramires, you say the ref abused Mikel? Well, there's no way to prove that, off you go."

I'm wary of Clattenburg because the referees' response shows me that there's ill-feeling there. I wouldn't be able to watch him officiate a game without feeling like he was impartial.
 

Seán D

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Mandieta6;3345526 said:
I'm wary of Clattenburg because the referees' response shows me that there's ill-feeling there. I wouldn't be able to watch him officiate a game without feeling like he was impartial.

And that's where the problem lies.

Ramires made a legit mistake I'm sure, but this has done damage to Clattenburg. His reputation has been damaged and it would be difficult to ever ref a Chelsea game again. Probably couldn't even ref a match which could affect Chelsea.

There has to be some contrition. Referees have to be able to freely ref games without their partiality questioned.

The ref's mics are being recorded from now on so hopefully these misunderstandings won't happen again.
 

Zakov

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Seán D;3345530 said:
His reputation has been damaged and it would be difficult to ever ref a Chelsea game again. Probably couldn't even ref a match which could affect Chelsea.

I'd have no problem with that at all to be honest.
 

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So its ok for a guy's career as a referree to be held back and have a mob of Chelsea supporters threatening him because of what a frustrated player "thought" he heard.

You are defending Chelsea with examples of Suarez and Terry, both found guilty. And Terry's defense that he only said what Ferdinand thought he actually said was weak. These men were guilty, Clattenburg isn't.
 

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Both were found guilty based on hearsay. There is bo proof in any of these cases. You're coming into this with a preconcieved idea that Chelsra are evil and must be in the wrong. Not just in the wring, but malicious. As far as you're concerned Ramires made it up and Chelsea decided to attack the ref anyway. Even the FA say that isn't the case.

If anyone threatened him they're idiots, and it has nothing to do with the club.

Chelsea acyed just as ManU did in the Suarez case. Neither knew if it was true, but thy stood by their player. Ramires was wrong, Evra was right, but you want to blame Chelsea? Note that ManU accused a Chelsea staff memver of the same thing once and it was thrown out, there was no iutcry then about false accusations. Sure, this is more high profile, but that guy was affected too. But ManU are saints and Chelsea are evil.
 
If Suarez would have been cleared, then I would hope that United would have apologised, too. The bottom line is that they made a mistake, a grave one with regard to the stuff Clattenburgh had to put up with, and should apologise for it. And they might have followed protocol but they also went public with it, which was completely unnecessary given the lack of proof.
And I also don't remember anyone getting a charge for improper conduct with regard to abusive and/or threatening language used towards the ref. Just because there was another issue at hand does not mean that there should be no retribution with regard to what Mikel said to Clattenburgh after the match.
 

kp41

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I love Sir_Didier_Drogba unbiased logic, he calls a guy who betrayed his wife, his best friend and is prove racist a HERO and then calls a referee RACIST NAZI.

It's just a coincidence that a first guy is his favorite team captain and second guy caused them a defeat lately.
 

VanTheMan

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For calling the ref racist, Sir_Didier_Drogba, you, are a twat and a racist yourself...
'Respect Referees' - ever heard of the campaign ?
 

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kp40;3345986 said:
I love Sir_Didier_Drogba unbiased logic, he calls a guy who betrayed his wife, his best friend and is prove racist a HERO and then calls a referee RACIST NAZI.

It's just a coincidence that a first guy is his favorite team captain and second guy caused them a defeat lately.

I don't think he was entirely serious
 

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1966+2006;3345812 said:
If Suarez would have been cleared, then I would hope that United would have apologised, too. The bottom line is that they made a mistake, a grave one with regard to the stuff Clattenburgh had to put up with, and should apologise for it. And they might have followed protocol but they also went public with it, which was completely unnecessary given the lack of proof.
And I also don't remember anyone getting a charge for improper conduct with regard to abusive and/or threatening language used towards the ref. Just because there was another issue at hand does not mean that there should be no retribution with regard to what Mikel said to Clattenburgh after the match.

Why eould Chelsea leak this? They wanted another media sandal as much as they wanted a **** in their mouth. It's not Chelsea's fault that some fans are idiots. THEY shoumd bebheld.accountable, not the club.
 


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