POTD?

[Torch]

DUDE!!! You are pretty damn handy with a computer for a 15 year old!!! I am jealous- I cant even figure out how to make my own jerseys.

 

[Le Bodge]

Hey EA, give this guy a job!

 

[fifafanatic]

Chris Davies,

I tried to download the Patch of the Day, but the one available here doesn't work. I get to the 11mb and then the last 4 megs are downloaded in like 4 seconds. I try to install, but I get this (I beleive) German text and the exe just gets stuck? What gives? Is there anywhere else to download, or should I just wait to check out your latest work?

 

[Chris Davies (E.S.P. Man)]

Thanks for your support and sympathy guys!

This forum doesn't like a lot of words in a message so once again I've had to split it into two. Sorry!

"Torch" - Hehe, thanks, I'm blushing

I would tell you how to make your own jerseys but since I presume your main intrest is the English league, you're best to wait for PotD : The End of an Era. I didn't realise I was so good - For the original PotD I just converted the E.S.P. for FIFA 99 ones so I could release it sooner, but then I did work for a solid week and, wow, like I say, I didn't know I could do anything more than just typing in team and player names and stats

Thanks for your reply (I'm STILL blushing

)!

"Le Bodge" - Hehe, thanks - Another guy making me blush, jesus - How many times can you type blush in one message

I did actually inquire to EA UK about the possibility of working on or even just BETA testing the FIFA series (or any EA (Sports preferably though) game, apart from the odd one I've played and loved them all!) - I got a good word from a fella here at EA UK, who said that the assistant producer had talked to the "main man" in Canada about me - That was a few years ago, heard nothing since

I would keep pushing but although some of the answers given in interviews here at SG were really just appauling and sad for the company, they are apart from that OK, and FIFA is the best footie game I know (I have ISS Evolution and Champions League 99\00 Season, and even though I really know that ISS is better, FIFA 2000 is the game I always play instead - In fact, I haven't touched ISS since I bought it in March and I haven't played CL99\00 more than twice!), so I don't want to bug them. Thanks for your reply!

Part two of this message under this one...

 

[Chris Davies (E.S.P. Man)]

Here's part two...

"fifafanatic" - Ah, the install-us program strikes again

There seems to be a bug in the program used to make the install program where a fault is caused with one standard Windows file (something to do with division by zero) - All I can say is that I do apologize, but thanks to people like yourself reporting these errors, the next version will be available both in a handy-dandy sweet-like-candy installation package, and a (self-extracting AND normal kind, just in case some of you have problems with the self-extracting one - You have to be one step ahead all the time

) .ZIP file for those who can't run the installation program version. You won't need the current version of PotD to run it, and since it's better, I'd wait another week or two. One thing I can suggest though it that since you say the last 4mb is downloaded in something like 4 seconds, I'd try (sorry, I know - And it probably won't work either! But it may be the case, the last 4mb shouldn't take like 4 seconds, this really should fix it! If not, then I'd just wait for The End of an Era) downloading it again... Thanks for your reply, sorry I couldn't be of more help...

Keep those replies rolling in, and thanks for your support!
Chris Davies

 

[Chris Davies (E.S.P. Man)]

Just a thought - Drinky promised me yesterday that he would send me an E-Mail with his Liverpool stadium attached so I could put some new screenshots up for you all to see... It never came...

It is obvious that it is going to take Drinky ages to finish his part of PotD : The End of an Era, so how would you feel about me posting Patch of the Day : The End of an Era WITHOUT Drinky's part; the new stadiums, crowd chants and English Legends teams (if Drinky agrees to it, which I hope he will)? I know the stadiums are a big loss (and having the crowd chants and English Legends teams would be nice), but we could release them in an update later on, if that's what you want... Or we could wait for Drinky to finish... What do you think? Please reply to this message with your opinion, it would help me out a lot. Thanks!

Chris Davies

 

[a_shearer]

Where's the website for PoTD?

Re. a release of End of an Ere, I have a question.

Which stadi do you need? God knows that their are hundreds already out their.

Just a thought...

 

[cjsturgess]

Chris,
I think it's a great idea to release the PotD as you have it now and then release an update with Drinky's stuff later on. I need something to liven up my game right now and this is just what I was hoping for. Thanks for all your work.

 

[Torch]

Chris- I guess to me, it depends on how long its gonna take for him to finish. If its 2 weeks or less, Id just wait, but if its gonna be more than that, Id release in two parts.
Can you get a hold of him and pin him down on how long it'll take???

Geoff C.

 

[Chris Davies (E.S.P. Man)]

Thanks for all your replies in such a short space of time guys!

"a_shearer" - Well, my original PotD site here at SG was deleted (by whom or what we will never know...) from the Soccer Gaming and FIFA 2000 Online sites (although when I moved to FIFA Centre Spot for a brief moment, that site stayed there - Although I wasn't there long enough to update it, Soccer Gaming was too much of a draw from me when Matt offered me the place here again!

), and when the new one will pop up, no-one knows. When the patch itself is finished, I suppose - Then perhaps I will have the time to make one! As for the stadia, well, A) I don't know which we need, Drinky won't divulge any information to me at all about what he is doing, except for a load of fake dates when he will have finished by

, there aren't really any English stadia out there on the 'net, and C) even if there was, we want ours to be top notch and not one of these that has been done by a fan of, say, Manchester United, who has obviously never been inside the stadium and hasn't done much research either - So we're best to make them ourselves I think. Thanks for your reply!

"cjsturgess" - Thanks for your reply! It's now officially 1-0 to releasing the patch without Drinky's part. I mean, he said he would have sent that Liverpool stadium after "dinner" on Friday, but it never arrived, it is obviously too much for him to do - He was actually hours away from quitting the team a week or two ago because of his workload so it must be too much... Today he promised me he would send ALL the Premiership stadiums later on, but I beg of you, don't take that too seriously because Drinky has been making promises like that since the year 2000 began (he mustn't be compatible

)... If he does, then I'll be able to release PotD with Premier only stadiums, if that's what you want, and release the rest in an update later this YEAR knowing Drinky, but like I've said, he probably won't, so don't get your hopes up... Thanks for your reply!

"Torch" - Hahahahaha, hehehehehe, hohohohoho... He has given me a release date every single WEEK ("I'll be finished this weekend, I SWEAR" - EVERY WEEK!) for MONTHS on end, so it is IMPOSSIBLE to get a real release date out of him. Like I say, he said he would send me a Liverpool stadium on the dot - 2 days ago! And he said a minute ago he would send me ALL the Premier stadiums this afternoon - Tell me (I don't think he understands this, no offence to him), wouldn't you be pissed off if he hadn't delivered in MONTHS after you had finished, and wouldn't you be pissed off if he keeps promising you on his LIFE he will deliver (EVERY weekend without fail), and then saying he was too busy? Lately I have gone to chat with him and he has gone offline straight away, and this concerns me a lot (although he keeps saying that it was a co-incidence)... So really, I don't know what your vote is! It's 1-0 to releasing it without Drinky's part (stadiums, crowd chants and English Legends teams), would you believe Drinky and vote for waiting, or be sceptical and vote for releasing it now? Thanks for your reply!

Chris Davies

(1-0 to releasing PotD : The End of an Era without stadiums)

 

[lufc16]

Chris,

I think that you should release the Patch of the Day without Drinky's bit because everyone has been in great anticipation over this patch and would love it when it is finally released.

However, it would be god if you could release Drinky's part of the patch as an update.

 

[Drinky UKSN]

I think I must come in here. Please visit http://www.entiredata.demon.co.uk/indigo/ and have a look at I2Ed - this is what I have been working on as well. I'm behind on POTD because of this. Its basically a FEd for International Cricket Captain 2, a game for which there are lots of fans but no editors. Unlike the FIFA scene, there are no dedicated editing people, no downloadable extras, and a couple of sites. I feel I've done something worthwhile here. The last thing I need is Chris moaning at me behind my back. I'm working damned hard on the stadia - what more do you want?

 

[a_shearer]

Hey Drinky,

Its CRICKET! How exciting can it be?

 

[Mamoo]

Hey Drinky + Chris

If u need ne help getting POTD done give me a shout. I'm quite experienced in this sort of thing and if u send me the software or whatever u use to edit the stadiums I'll give ya a hand. How about it ??
Let us know if u need the help

Mamoo

 

[Chris Davies (E.S.P. Man)]

"lufc16" - Thanks for your reply! That's 2-0 to releasing the patch without Drinky's part then...

"Drinky UKSN" - I know you are busy with that but does that give you the excuse to make promise after promise and break promise after promise? I mean, the exams you're taking take first priority but why say "this weekend" when you know it isn't going to be? I wouldn't mind if you just gave your honest opinion! I ask you now so that everyone can see this; Can you give us an honest guess when you will have finished? As for the fact I am moaning behind your back; A) I wouldn't say it was behind your back, it's at the forum of the place where you work for god's sake! Can you blame me? Like I've already said, I can understand things taking you ages to do (exams and this editor), but giving a realistic release date is all I want, not a "this weekend" promise, because it destroys me - I've believed those promises week in week out for too long... C) Although I've said this to you a MILLION times when we have privately chatted, I have seen no evidence you are working "damned hard" on the stadia (although I do believe you are), especially since that Liverpool stadium you posted to me to take screenshots with hasn't arrived since you SWEARED you do it after "dinner", 3 days ago, and D) You're not moaning behind my back? Yeeeaaahhh, whatever

Look, I know you're a great guy, I don't want to argue with you and I don't want to offend you (as stupid as it may sound I didn't mean to), but I can't help getting pissed off because of your promises and the AGES waiting. I'm sorry but I can't change how I feel and I can't lock it up inside me, I'm not one of those kinda guys. Sorry!

"a_shearer" - Drinky has a point (I know you're only joking though) - If he is making something in a field unexplored for a game then that is really great, and I wish him all the luck in the world with it (and his exams)... It's just that I hate being on the 'net every weekend after being promised everything done and seeing nothing! Thanks for your reply...

"Mamoo" - I have finished everything I have to do, all that's left is for Drinky to finish his stadiums, crowd chants (I think they're already done, I'm not sure) and English Legends team sheets for me to input into the game - I'm not sure but I don't think Drinky needs any help. However, if he does I'm sure he'll get back to you when he sees me "moaning behind his back" again

Thanks for the offer though!

Chris Davies

(2-0 to releasing PotD : The End of an Era without Drinky's part, although I don't know if he's OK with that seeing as he was a bit "thumbs down" in his reply today)

 

[fifafanatic]

Boy, the development of this patch is turning into a television drama? Is there light at the end of the tunnel?

Chris, it's really your call as to how you want to release the patch. Patch development is a hobby and if Drinky is beginning to feel the pressure of meeting deadlines, then I believe he should step down and let you release the patch without the stadiums. Looks like drinky took up too many committments with his tasks and plus being a webmaster over hear at FIFA2000 online. But you can't blame the guy.

Chris, in the future, you should have certain deadlines within the development team, that way you know how much more time needs to be taken. Anyways, hope you solve your problems and good luck on the patch.

 

[Torch]

Drinky- I just want to say that I understand you have other commitments and are busy- however, I for one have been anxiously awaiting the POTD update since Xmas. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE finish the stadia!!!!!!!!!!! I am REALLY looking forward to playing you and Chris' masterpiece in its FULL glory!!!! Im sure that the patch would be good w/o the stadia- but to me half the fun of playing with the patch would be the cool EPL stadia and EPL chants.

Here's my pathetic plea- please be honest with yourself....if you cant get the patch done in say a week, then admit you're too busy and turn the work over to somebody else- a lot of people have volunteered to help you out.... nobody meant to give you **** before...we just REALLY want to play the FULL POTD!!!!!!!!!!! Thanks.

Sincerely,

Geoffrey William Cook (Im a yank, but my father's from Yarmouth)

 

[Torch]

Drinky?????

 

[Chris Davies (E.S.P. Man)]

YYYYYAAAAAHHHHHOOOOOOOOOO!!!!! We have a deal folks

Here's the deal; I don't know when, Drinky didn't say (I would hope today, but we shall see

), but what's going to happen is PotD : The End of an Era shall be released with all the stadia Drinky has done so far (last time we spoke he had only 4 Premier stadia to do - If he hasn't done them yet, don't fear, I will do them

), crowd chants (Drinky has them all in .WAV, but is having trouble getting them into FIFA 2000 format; If he can't do it, I'm sure I'll find a way

) and English Legends teams (which I will now do), plus all my part; The kits of all the Premiership teams and England's national kit, all the shorts most used in the English leagues (courtesy of Joey Jones of FIFA-CS), all the socks most used in the English leagues (courtesy of Joey Jones of FIFA-CS), all the boots most used in the English leagues (the Nike pair courtesy of Xavier Baez of FIFA-LA), photo-realistic faces (courtesy of Xavier Baez of FIFA-LA - One of which looks like both David Beckham of Man. U. AND Paul Ince of Middlesbrough!), the NEW Sky Sports graphics patch (downloadable seperately in approximately 2 days, courtesy of Xavier Baez of FIFA-LA), 2 sets of turfs designs for you to choose from (colourful ones from The F.A. Premier League Stars, or more realistic ones, courtesy of Sahar Ben-Attar of EURO-ball), 3 balls for you to choose from (the exact white Mitre Premiership ball, the exact yellow Nationwide Leagues ball or the exact orange Premiership ball used in snowy weather), new net design (as used in most English grounds), new corner flags (the same design as one of the linesmen's flags, if EA would care to put them in the game), new player numbers (as used in all English leagues), even a new MOUTH design (you can now see the tongue properly when the mouth is opened, and players smile when they score but look like they are concentrating, as they would really, while they are playing), plus new photo-realistic crowds, beautiful all-new menus (designed by Rich Butler), updated rosters for every team in the game (courtesy of Jochen Tree) and, of course, newly added Football Leagues Division One, Two and Three. A small update will be released pretty much straight after PotD : The End of an Era itself is released, so if you prefer to have the Premiership and none of the Nationwide Football Leagues to be in there (and by doing so you can have the Israeli, Brazilian and MLS leagues back), that will fix it for you. I may have forgotten something but I think that's it

As you can see this patch is going to rock, so keep your eyes open, PotD : The End of an Era should be arriving VERY soon indeed (no release date though, I don't want there to be a big fuss like there was for the E.S.P.

)!

(A very happy) Chris Davies

 

[Le Bodge]

Chris / Drinky

Thanks for keeping us updated, I'm sure I speak for us all when I say that the only reason we're so pushy is because we know what fantastic work you guys have done in the past.

So, here's to waiting for a reason to load Fifa 2000 again.....

Who needs sleep anyway?

Le B.