Pitches are too big in Pes4/We8

[Gnidrologist]

This is bothering me for a long time. Earlyer some people said it's due to the offensive arrows and chosen tactics why it feels that middlefield and.. well literaly all the football field seems abandoned of players except the penalty area which is always crowded like a chicken shack, but after I've been playing this year's Pes/We for quite a long time now.. no, I don't think so.

Have you ever noticed how lonng are those ''short'' pases. They're usually 15-20 meters long if we measure them proportionally with real life football. Why are there such a huge gaps between the teammates on the pitch all the time. Even if I don't use any arrows for offensive players to make early runs it still seems that there's not a single living soul in the middle of the pitch to pass a simple short ball.
It also feels too wide and loosy in overall. When you watch a real football match it's always very tight in every corner of the pitch ,there's always lots of people both in defence and attack, but in pes/we there are such a wide and empty areas that you get an impression as if the pitch is at least 50% bigger than in life.
Pes3/We7 however dindn't have this problem. Proportion of pitch and footballer's size was perfectly appropriate me thinks.

Have they made pitch wider and longer or what, or is it only my ill imagination?!

 

[JanerAli]

I think the pitches are too small lol

 

[calvinlui]

whatever too big or too small...
the proportion of the pitch to the players is not as gd as that in we7i(in hong kong we play japanese vesion for ps2)...

 

[Inevitable]

pitch could be bigger not smaller.

 

[napolistill#1]

Do this. Go into training mode and with Martins (INTER) start sprinting from the MF line to the goal line (or vice versa) it should take him about 5.5-6 seconds. I've done it and it seems right. I think the problem you're seeing is in fact your startegies. I get tones of breakaways where my CF is clear from 35-40 yards out of goall with no defenders. Play counterattack A and also have your side backs arrows pointing straight upfield. Use one of your CM/DM to patrol lateral (have the arrows pointing left and right). This will begin to really crown things up a bit. Also, keep your defense/attack level at the middle or one click towards attack. This will push up your defenders and they'll be much more aggresive All that said, I do agree that the MF play is a bit less intense than WE6 and WE7!

 

[johan]

I think the stadiums are fine...its just perfect for me..sometimes it really depends on what TV you`re playing.

 

[Gnidrologist]

Originally posted by napolistill#1
Do this. Go into training mode and with Martins (INTER) start sprinting from the MF line to the goal line (or vice versa) it should take him about 5.5-6 seconds.

Yes, that's another problem - the game is too darn fast. As I said in some of the previous posts in another thread, I always decrease the game speed by using optionfile editor and lowering all player's top speed by at least 20 digits.

I think the problem you're seeing is in fact your startegies.

No, it's not. I already told it.

I get tones of breakaways where my CF is clear from 35-40 yards out of goall with no defenders. Play counterattack A and also have your side backs arrows pointing straight upfield. Use one of your CM/DM to patrol lateral (have the arrows pointing left and right). This will begin to really crown things up a bit.

I have used all the possible strategies and I know and understand most of finesses anyone could think of. I'm no rookie at We games.
Still I say, the fields are much bigger then in previous Konami football games. I can't believe that it's only my imagination.

Also, keep your defense/attack level at the middle or one click towards attack. This will push up your defenders and they'll be much more aggresive All that said, I do agree that the MF play is a bit less intense than WE6 and WE7!

As I already said.
DON'T TRY TO TEACH ME TACTICS!
I'm quite experienced in We/Pes/Iss games, maybe(or maybe not) even more experienced than you.

Just try playing Pes3/We7. You'll appearantly see the difference. I have no doubt. The pitches had been increased in largeness.
I dunno, maybe it's the right decission and the pitches had been too small in previous Konami games. Maybe someone could make some mathematic calculations to determine if the pitch-player proportion is right in Pes4/We8. Than I'd admit my missguidance.

 

[Daz]

i think that the pitches are fine. They're about the right size

 

[Shaft085]

The pitches are the least of Konami,s worries ...
They need to look at how s**t the gameplay animations are,
and the way in which they move ...

 

[Rocky]

shaft dont bring what supposed to be in the WE/PES vs. FIFA forum into here

 

[johan]

OMG is he here...geez.. someone please ban his a$$

 

[Elkz]

I personally don't see too much wrong with the pitches. I once invited my friend over to play on my PES4, and he was an avid Fifa fan. After afew games he mentioned how the pitches seem a little smaller.

I also think that the time it takes for you to run with a fast player such as martins or eto'o from midfield-line to goal is fine, it's a realistic time for fast players.

If you want people in midfield to pass to at close range, put centre-attack as a tactic?

 

[rascricket]

Originally posted by Inevitable
pitch could be bigger not smaller.

Im very curious. If someone could answer this realistically, it would quell this question of pitch size.

I myself wondered if the SCALE is correct in this game. I think maaaybe the pitch is a little bigger than in real life. WE's are usually spot on with the SCALE: Im talking about player height compared to goal height, pitch width and all that.

Is WE8 to scale?

 

[Jerseyboy]

I think the midfield is too porous and wide to. In real life, it is only the wings that have relative free space. Konami should retain the proportion of the pitch in WE7 and the new dribbling system of WE8 for their next installment.

 

[aqua]

the size of the pitch is correct, it's just that everything else is too small

 

[Brian Potter]

pitches are diffrent sizes in real life you know . so chances are that the we8 pitch is same size as at least 1 of them.

 

[Youri Bakker]

I think the pitches are the right size in PES/WE. Not too big and not too small. In FIFA 2005 the pitches are WAY too big compared to the players.

 

[SCTW]

The pitch is perfect! Please don't complain so Konami makes them smaller If you were a FIFA fan back seevral years ago, you would understanf the problem gamers had. The pitch was so small that you could not play a decent game becuase the pitch was crowded!

 

[wheed007]

pitches are too big, what do we look like ? the programmers for the game? you want me to reduce the size for u?

 

[James007]

there must be a ratio setting somewhere to change proportions...