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PES 2008 ups and downs

dafish

Club Supporter
a lot of people have been bashing pes 2008 without much objective view point. i'd like to add my 2 cents to the discussion.

ups:
+favors attacking football. 5-4-1 that my cousin use to play will no longer cut it as it is easier to attack than defend.
+intelligent positioning/cut-ins. if you hold the ball other players will run into space. this use to never happen before, or very rarely into good positions making it more realistic.
+faster pace. I know a lot of people did not like this. however past 2-3 versions of PES has been getting slower and slower lacking any adrenaline and simply rendering counter attacking teams like arsenal useless. I think it is a real test of how good you are at dribbling and the reaction time of defenders making fools of those who simply hold down the 'chase' button, and do no 'real' defending whatsoever.

downs:
- rosters once again a let down in how up to date they are, but easily remedied through patches/option files.
- PES shop? where did it go on the PC?!
- balancing issues with the increase in speed. The increase in speed gives players a ability to abuse. This nullifies the point of Konami always trying to add skills and moves as you don't even need it nowadays.
-no 6 star difficulty again. once again ML gets a little boring with the lack of challenging AI. I average over 4 goals a game and i know i'm not the best player out there. a 7-1 beating of milan (11-1 agg.) in the champions league says a lot...
-graphics: ya... lets just say the graphics should belong on the old PS 1...

overall: 7/10

After years of 9's and 10's out of 10 as PES fans we've been a little spoiled for the immense improvements that occur every year. i get a feeling that this year's improvement is so little because they are using a completely new engine and doing a complete overhaul. The future versions of PES will most likely be based on this year's as a foundation. There's some ups and downs but overall its satisfactory game, although not stellar like we're use it. There's many other games out there that is worse and despite the disappointment i would say there are still very few footy games better than PES.
 

IxI SoNiK IxI

Youth Team
dafish;2499221 said:
-graphics: ya... lets just say the graphics should belong on the old PS 1..

are you talking about for the PC?

IMO for the PC version graphics-wise has made a big jump from previous versions

of course your pc has to meet its requirements inorder to take advantage of this otherwise youll get nuthing but fuzzy graphics
 

deluxxe

Youth Team
it looks pretty good on the 360 in HD.
The problem with this game is the anoying AI. It is so frustrating.
Playing exibition games vs the AI is super fun and exciting because many goals and interesting plays happen. However, as soon as you start playing a league, cup, or master league... the fun factor is sucked right out of the game due to the cheating AI. Once again every defender is faster than all of my strikers, simple passes by superstars are likely to go directly to the opponents boot, and my players get pushed around like an under 17 girls team. grrrr

dafish;2499221 said:
i get a feeling that this year's improvement is so little because they are using a completely new engine and doing a complete overhaul. The future versions of PES will most likely be based on this year's as a foundation.

pretty sure that's incorrect. This years version is the same engine as last years, it's just tweaked a bit. I beleive the PES producers have said that next year (2009) will be an all new engine.
 

WeVi

Youth Team
dafish;2499221 said:
-graphics: ya... lets just say the graphics should belong on the old PS 1...
what are you talking about, PS2 or PC? It's like the first time you can put graphic of pes is better than fifa in a sentence. I have both fifa08 and pes08 for pc and fifa's graphic is nowhere near of pes2008.
 

deluxxe

Youth Team
WeVi;2499717 said:
what are you talking about, PS2 or PC? It's like the first time you can put graphic of pes is better than fifa in a sentence. I have both fifa08 and pes08 for pc and fifa's graphic is nowhere near of pes2008.

That's because FIFA 08 for PC is not the same game as FIFA 08 for XBOX 360/PS3.
PES08 for PC looks way better than FIFA08 for PC.
However, the opposite is true for the 360.

I'm not sure what is up at EA, but for whatever stupid reason they don't make the same game for PC that they do for the 360. It's completely different.
It's probably due to the fact that the company has no freaking idea what it's doing.
 

dafish

Club Supporter
deluxxe;2499706 said:
pretty sure that's incorrect. This years version is the same engine as last years, it's just tweaked a bit. I beleive the PES producers have said that next year (2009) will be an all new engine.

sorry i stand corrected. you are right. about the engine. In either case, it feels like a incomplete product regardless. The menu's I don't like and the PES shop is gone.

However over time i do find the biggest annoyance is that 5-star is still too easy. haven't tried the online play yet. also i notice that the ball bounces off the keeper too fast to be realistic making poaching players less useful, however it is still an improvement over previous versions.

the thing is i guess that i am spoiled to be use to huge leaps of improvement each of the last 3-4 versions of PES. however this year seems to be the least improved.
 

Ewerth

Club Supporter
Yeah I miss the 6stars too. The master league isnt a challenge anymore. I played 3 seasons and got bored. Its just player vs player thats fun nowdays.
 

plus4s

Youth Team
deluxxe;2499810 said:
That's because FIFA 08 for PC is not the same game as FIFA 08 for XBOX 360/PS3.
PES08 for PC looks way better than FIFA08 for PC.
However, the opposite is true for the 360.

I'm not sure what is up at EA, but for whatever stupid reason they don't make the same game for PC that they do for the 360. It's completely different.
It's probably due to the fact that the company has no freaking idea what it's doing.
I think ea and the fifa games on pc are slowly being phased out, i believe this to be down to piracy. Ea will easily make enough money just concentrating on the consoles.
 


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