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PES 2 Final Impressions
- Thread starter capitanpato
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I have heard that they speed up the PES series to keep up with the speed of English football.
Not sure if this is true or not.
I think it has to be slightly faster then a real game because it is a computer game! Fair enough it is a simulation (and a pretty good one at that), but you still need some pace and action to it.
I think its good being fast! The people with the quicker reflexs are better at the game. Which is true about most computer games!?!? Although I haven't played it yet, I will let you know tonight!
Just my opinion and I can see why some people would prefer it slower.
Not sure if this is true or not.
I think it has to be slightly faster then a real game because it is a computer game! Fair enough it is a simulation (and a pretty good one at that), but you still need some pace and action to it.
I think its good being fast! The people with the quicker reflexs are better at the game. Which is true about most computer games!?!? Although I haven't played it yet, I will let you know tonight!
Just my opinion and I can see why some people would prefer it slower.
I have to disagree there, I feel the game is faster than WE6 and i'm playing it on PAL. As far as the passing goes, yes they do feel slower but you also seem to have more control over them, as well as being able to put after touch on them. Like I said in my previous post, the real test will be to go back to WE6 after a couple of weeks and then you'll notice the differences more obviously.
Well gameplay im not so sure about as it has been poished up form WE6 For example
volleys seem to be improved-like when there is a loose ball
shooting has been tweaked
takling has been tweaked
headers have aswell
Commentry is **** though and regulary gets things wrong and sometimes the commentators talk over one another about diffenet things
The main thing that stands out though are not just the players names but club names aswell. Liverpool is Europort ,Real Madrid is something else aswell and so are many other teams.
I know they dont have some player liceneces but they had all correct club names in PES 1.
Yes I smell a BETA
volleys seem to be improved-like when there is a loose ball
shooting has been tweaked
takling has been tweaked
headers have aswell
Commentry is **** though and regulary gets things wrong and sometimes the commentators talk over one another about diffenet things
The main thing that stands out though are not just the players names but club names aswell. Liverpool is Europort ,Real Madrid is something else aswell and so are many other teams.
I know they dont have some player liceneces but they had all correct club names in PES 1.
Yes I smell a BETA
If thats your only evidence then I reckon it is the final version! Afraid to say!
I had a look at it at lunchtime and I reckon that is the final build.
I think they have had problems with the names. I am pretty sure Holland is going to stay as Orange 1, Orange 2 etc.
Sorry but thats just my gut feeling!
We will see next week hey
I had a look at it at lunchtime and I reckon that is the final build.
I think they have had problems with the names. I am pretty sure Holland is going to stay as Orange 1, Orange 2 etc.
Sorry but thats just my gut feeling!
We will see next week hey
MisH*The*Manc
Reserve Team
I'm pretty much sure that this is a beta for numerous reasons being
*There are no advertisments at the beginning for Umbro, there are still Adidas ones though
*Players still walk through the advertisment boards
*Squads are out of date
*Features that were said to be included weren't there such as the 10 custom teams and the ability to transfer players in the edit mode which featured in J-League
*Gameplay isn't as good as J-League
I pray to God this is a beta
*There are no advertisments at the beginning for Umbro, there are still Adidas ones though
*Players still walk through the advertisment boards
*Squads are out of date
*Features that were said to be included weren't there such as the 10 custom teams and the ability to transfer players in the edit mode which featured in J-League
*Gameplay isn't as good as J-League
I pray to God this is a beta
They're talking about (cough) "semi-legally obtained" copies of PES which we can allude to here, but not discuss in detail. Cos it's against da law.
So it IS a beta then!(I haven't played it......too law-abiding, and not well-connected enough, grrr). Out of date squads and Adidas ads are the giveaway...Konami have said quite explicitly that the squads in the final PES2 will be up-to-date as of the recent transfer window, and we know the European version is sponsored by Umbro (the demo has Umbro branding, an Umbro ball etc., so if your PES2 doesn't have these, it ain't the final).
Sounds like this is just a conversion of one of the WE6s, which hasn't been polished yet. Thing is, the Umbro stuff and the squad rosters would be the last things they'd do, so it's possible that this is the final game, just with unfinished data... rest assured, the final PES2 WILL have up-to-date squads... PES was up-to-date to 3 weeks previous to release, and this year they have the transfer window system, so there's no excuse not to make it completely accurate.
The question is, does this mean that in the final PES you CAN transfer players between club sides with the edit mode? And will there be 10 custom teams in the final version? Cos if there will, that means I can fulfill my dream of creating the European leagues on different memory cards. And if there won't, that means a lot of people who get PES2 at Christmas are gonna be pretty pissed off when the next transfer window opens, everyone moves clubs, and suddenly the game is completely out of date.
So it IS a beta then!(I haven't played it......too law-abiding, and not well-connected enough, grrr). Out of date squads and Adidas ads are the giveaway...Konami have said quite explicitly that the squads in the final PES2 will be up-to-date as of the recent transfer window, and we know the European version is sponsored by Umbro (the demo has Umbro branding, an Umbro ball etc., so if your PES2 doesn't have these, it ain't the final).
Sounds like this is just a conversion of one of the WE6s, which hasn't been polished yet. Thing is, the Umbro stuff and the squad rosters would be the last things they'd do, so it's possible that this is the final game, just with unfinished data... rest assured, the final PES2 WILL have up-to-date squads... PES was up-to-date to 3 weeks previous to release, and this year they have the transfer window system, so there's no excuse not to make it completely accurate.
The question is, does this mean that in the final PES you CAN transfer players between club sides with the edit mode? And will there be 10 custom teams in the final version? Cos if there will, that means I can fulfill my dream of creating the European leagues on different memory cards. And if there won't, that means a lot of people who get PES2 at Christmas are gonna be pretty pissed off when the next transfer window opens, everyone moves clubs, and suddenly the game is completely out of date.
capitanpato
Club Supporter
Well, my game has the Umbro ball, and the exact Umbro kits, England, Chile and Republic of Ireland I think.
One thing I did notice is that Ronaldo does not have the haircut he used in the World Cup, and there were some screenshots from PES2 in the past were they showed him with that haircut.
Maybe this points to the game being FINAL, since Ronaldo is not using that hairstyle anymore. The hasirtyle IS available in the edit mode, so maybe Konami had Ronaldo with that haircut, but after he changed it, they removed it.
Just speculation I'm afraid
One thing I did notice is that Ronaldo does not have the haircut he used in the World Cup, and there were some screenshots from PES2 in the past were they showed him with that haircut.
Maybe this points to the game being FINAL, since Ronaldo is not using that hairstyle anymore. The hasirtyle IS available in the edit mode, so maybe Konami had Ronaldo with that haircut, but after he changed it, they removed it.
Just speculation I'm afraid
I take everything back I have said!
After playing a couple of games tonight I really do hope this is a beta! If not it is a terrible conversion!
Its jerky, you can blast the ball really easily, the commentry is all messed up (this isn't the first time on a PES game though!). Its just generally pretty poor. J league is far superior.
But as you say, hopefully this is a beta.
And just to let everyone know... I will buy the finished copy when it is in the shops next week! Hopefully with everything ironed out and running sweetly!
If not it looks like the wait till WE6 Final Evolution comes out in December hey!
After playing a couple of games tonight I really do hope this is a beta! If not it is a terrible conversion!
Its jerky, you can blast the ball really easily, the commentry is all messed up (this isn't the first time on a PES game though!). Its just generally pretty poor. J league is far superior.
But as you say, hopefully this is a beta.
And just to let everyone know... I will buy the finished copy when it is in the shops next week! Hopefully with everything ironed out and running sweetly!
If not it looks like the wait till WE6 Final Evolution comes out in December hey!
Yes on both questions, Wolf88...
About the question if those "semi-legal obtained" copies are beta:
I think they are if they don't run smoothly, because of what Konami wrote me some days ago... "Winning eleven runs on the same engine as PES 2, but the difference is that all lags, flaws from WE6 are removed in PES 2.
So in fact PES 2 is a better version. I experienced myself that PES runs much better then the previous one; it runs smoother.
The players move more natural and the ball control etc. has improved. "
So, not jerky
About the question if those "semi-legal obtained" copies are beta:
I think they are if they don't run smoothly, because of what Konami wrote me some days ago... "Winning eleven runs on the same engine as PES 2, but the difference is that all lags, flaws from WE6 are removed in PES 2.
So in fact PES 2 is a better version. I experienced myself that PES runs much better then the previous one; it runs smoother.
The players move more natural and the ball control etc. has improved. "
So, not jerky
So Han, are you absolutely SURE that in the final version of PES2
a. you can rename club teams, redo their kit, then replace all their players with edited players, effectively turning them into a new team - eg change Vasco Da Gama into Real Betis, or Willem II, or whoever, in every way
and b. there will be empty custom teams who can be made into whoever you like?
Cos I assumed that was true until recently, and it's a matter of great importance to me............
a. you can rename club teams, redo their kit, then replace all their players with edited players, effectively turning them into a new team - eg change Vasco Da Gama into Real Betis, or Willem II, or whoever, in every way
and b. there will be empty custom teams who can be made into whoever you like?
Cos I assumed that was true until recently, and it's a matter of great importance to me............
I really hope this i s a beta. I played it yesterday with a friend and agreed that this was not as good as we6. I'm not that conserned about the names and editing-mode, but the gameplay is much more like an arcade-style. It was way to easy to get to a 100% chance and it resulted in a lot of chances and a lot of goals. After 2 hours we went back to we6 and the good feeling!
Sarrus
Sarrus
Answers on:
A: Yes
B: There is a limit on this; I read somewhere (in a review) that you can add 8 (I believe) new teams, but you can also edit everything about the existing teams.
All I wrote in my previous post I was told by mail by a Konami-Europe representative.
So yes you can be sure that's true.