...will be decided at the FIFA Executive committee on the 17th/18th December in Madrid. Sepp Blatter promised Oceania a direct spot, and has taken away the holders automatic qualification priviledge, so Oceania should get an automatic spot, But will he stick to his promises or will be still kiss Asia's asses and give them more spots?
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Oceania's allocation fate...
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Considering there's only one team of any consequence in Oceania, I'd be quite happy if Sepp Blatter gives the extra place to any of the other continents.
I don't see why Australia should be given virtually an automatic entry into every World Cup simply by beating a couple of Island teams whose previous football experience consists of dropping a coconut on their foot.
If Australia can't manage to win the only real competitive match that they ever play (ie. against the 5th ranked team in S America) then they can go find some kangaroos and set up a practise match against tougher opposition.
I don't see why Australia should be given virtually an automatic entry into every World Cup simply by beating a couple of Island teams whose previous football experience consists of dropping a coconut on their foot.
If Australia can't manage to win the only real competitive match that they ever play (ie. against the 5th ranked team in S America) then they can go find some kangaroos and set up a practise match against tougher opposition.
maddog1983
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i think the whole zoning system needs to be changed but i cant be bothered xplaining how ... just we should be more in with asia
I hope Australia are allowed to, every area of the world should have a team in the WORLD Cup, by making them play-off against a team from a continent already with 4 teams competing it is quite stupid, besides, Uruguay couldn't even beat France.
Nah but if this rule does come in, I bet Australia still won't make it, the socceroos always seem to find a way to f*ck something up.
Nah but if this rule does come in, I bet Australia still won't make it, the socceroos always seem to find a way to f*ck something up.
Originally posted by paul_7
I hope Australia are allowed to, every area of the world should have a team in the WORLD Cup, by making them play-off against a team from a continent already with 4 teams competing it is quite stupid, besides, Uruguay couldn't even beat France.
Nah but if this rule does come in, I bet Australia still won't make it, the socceroos always seem to find a way to f*ck something up.
As far as I remember, Australia didn't beat France either.
I'm tired of this idea, we argued about it about a year ago, the general idea was that Australia doesn't deserve an automatic spot and should qualify with asian teams. A few members obviously thought the complete opposite, mainly Jono82.
So let's not start another arguement about it, until a decision is made.
maddog1983
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Originally posted by g-14
Bull**** man, u dont kno Carlos ****. The last time australia played a fellow oceania team they lost (New Zealand) so shove that up yo ass man
yeah but in reality we play possibly our 3rd string team .. i know its gay .. i know the kiwis had a few players out to .. i say why not get the glory to play the kingzz .. thats about the same
Here's how I think the qualification should be:
AFC: 2 teams + 1 team playoff against Oceania winner
CAF: 5 teams
CONCACAF: 3 teams
CONMEBOL: 5 teams
OFC: 0 teams + 1 team playoff against AFC team
UEFA: 15 teams
So no, I don't think the Oceania winner should get an automatic spot in the WC finals, but playing the 3rd placed AFC team instead of the 5th placed CONMEBOL team would give Australia or New Zealand a better chance of qualifying. It might seem like it's not enough spots for AFC but look at this year's World Cup: China and Saudi Arabia played like ****, right now Asia has only two great teams so I think that would be fair.
AFC: 2 teams + 1 team playoff against Oceania winner
CAF: 5 teams
CONCACAF: 3 teams
CONMEBOL: 5 teams
OFC: 0 teams + 1 team playoff against AFC team
UEFA: 15 teams
So no, I don't think the Oceania winner should get an automatic spot in the WC finals, but playing the 3rd placed AFC team instead of the 5th placed CONMEBOL team would give Australia or New Zealand a better chance of qualifying. It might seem like it's not enough spots for AFC but look at this year's World Cup: China and Saudi Arabia played like ****, right now Asia has only two great teams so I think that would be fair.
Parra Power
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Sadly it's not going to help. our first team played one game (vs france in a friendly), your plan would keep the "2 real games in a world cup cycle" alive, and that's what we're against. Anywayz, we did that thing with asia in 98 and Iran scored 2 last minute goals in melbourne to draw the game 2-2 and go through on away goals (we were the only team unbeaten in the qualifying for the world cup and not to make it).
I would rather have Australia and NZ qualify through Asia, in the group stage thingie; or have direct qualification.
With direct qualification we would have no real games with our first squad (our 4th choice team generally beats NZ, American Samoa, Tonga etc.
), but would get alot of serious friendlies, and almost certain qualification.Through Asia, the first team would get stronger having to play many games against decent teams, as well as the friendlies if we qualify. But qualification is not certain.
With the current system, we get 2 games with a pretty un-tested team in 4 years against pretty strong opposition, who've already played 20 games togeather to get to that stage. It's a huge disadvantage that we've never been able to overcome (in 74, we had a team of part-timers who played togeather in Asia).
The current system is failing football in the Oceanic reigon, and HAS to be swapped in order for football in our region, both at club and international levels, to get any better.
Originally posted by SnYper
As far as I remember, Australia didn't beat France either.
I'm tired of this idea, we argued about it about a year ago, the general idea was that Australia doesn't deserve an automatic spot and should qualify with asian teams. A few members obviously thought the complete opposite, mainly Jono82.
Thank you!
At least u mentioned that some other members thought along the same lines as me!
I'm still sticking to the idea that Oceania should get DIRECT entry to the WC! - u said Australia... we are in the Oceanic Confederation... NOT Asia! It's not our fault that we're in the same federation as American Samoa, Tonga and Fiji!
...and as far as I can remember... we drew 1-1 against France's #1 team!!
Internazionale
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From what Ive known so far, OFC qualifications have 2 groups (5 countries each) in Pre Qualifying matches.
Those 2 winners in their OFC respective qualifying groups should join with AFC group winners in their qualifying matches as well.
In this 2nd round play off, every single in Asian or Oceanian is equally balanced with the top 2 teams in assuming divided into 2 groups will automatically qualified (Home & Away matches).
Those 2 winners in their OFC respective qualifying groups should join with AFC group winners in their qualifying matches as well.
In this 2nd round play off, every single in Asian or Oceanian is equally balanced with the top 2 teams in assuming divided into 2 groups will automatically qualified (Home & Away matches).