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[NK FOOTBALL ©]

Well i tried the latest beta and here's my feed-back.

The game speed is now perfect but the defence has been degraded from the previous patch.It is now easier to break the defence where as it was not the case in the previous patch plus the attack of the cpu should also be improved.

Try to improve the AI of our team-mates so that they try to make realistic plays and How about making the keeper a bit aggressive by making them come forward while in one on one situation and stuff.

I guess thats it.

defences were going through some testing, so this is why it might have had this affect. Ball-mark delays were taken off making the defences push forward quicker rather than hold off and stay back, harder to break! These delays are now been tuned for the max-difficulty in breaking. CPU close down speeds are been adjusted for balance and difficulty. The CPU attack is on the way up.


CPU and USER keepers will rush towards the ball more often and mark off area's of the goal which are most threatening to score. They'll save more attempts on goal and make quick get-ups for the second attempt. They will predict and anticipate shots quicker with more skill. Both keepers are equal, all goals are possible on both sides. You'll see some fantastic goals and saves.

I am working my best to achieve the best balance and difficulty for all levels of play. Semi-pro will be easier. Whereas World Class and Legendary levels will be harder than before.

Freekicks are also far more tuned. A finesse free-kick gives you plenty of time to power up (slower powerbar), but the difficulty is getting the right amount of power for the shot to get up and over the wall. And too much power and it'll go too high! Once the power is perfect, the goalkeeper will have trouble saving the shot. But it's much harder to do this. In this respect, Pro Evolution Soccer had an influence on my decision here.

Ball physics; What do you want to see?

NK.

 

[ssj4karan]

Sorry i could not follow your defence explanation Lol...All i want is a harder to break defence like in the previous patch so i leave it to the expert which is you

Just make the CPU attackers more aggressive and have them make beautiful plays.

Try to improve the throw ins as they can easily be predicted.

The free kicks are great..Ball physics are fine.

You are almost there...Keep up the good work.

 

[NK FOOTBALL ©]

Sorry i could not follow your defence explanation Lol...All i want is a harder to break defence like in the previous patch so i leave it to the expert which is you

Just make the CPU attackers more aggressive and have them make beautiful plays.

Try to improve the throw ins as they can easily be predicted.

The free kicks are great..Ball physics are fine.

You are almost there...Keep up the good work.

Thanks man. What I'll do is spice up the cpu aggression. I'm already noticing better passing from them myself. However, my testing team IS against Brazil, so they are bound to make some great plays.

I will see what I can do with throw-ins. But you are 100% right, they are predictable.

NK.

 

[NK FOOTBALL ©]

Oh and the intermediate shot mechanic is based on 1 set of feedback and the advanced and legend shot mechanics are based on another set of feedback, so both sides of the playing field will be happy.

The original EA mechanic won't be included because my intermediate shooting wipes the floor with it.

NK.

 

[FifaVoetbal]

I've tried the Intermediate shooting system of your latest bèta-version, but my problem still remains. I can only score by headers or volleys, normal shots always go wide.

By the way: two of my 'gameplay dreams'. Could you ever realise them?

* Will it ever be possible to dribble past the goalkeeper or be tackled by the goalie, bringing you in a penalty kick? It happens quite a lot in real life, but as I remember, EA never managed to put it in their FIFA series.
* In the 'UEFA Euro 2004' game, dribbling was quite fun and it was also possible to give the defenders a 'panna' (playing the ball between someone's legs to get past them) or playing the ball next to a defender and running yourself the other way around him (in Belgium we call this 'een bruggetje', literally translated in 'a bridge', no idea if you guys use this word in English). I hope you could ever bring this exciting dribbling experience back into my game

Greets and lots of respect for your work (and I know I'm speaking in the name of the whole FifaVoetbal Forums),

FV|RC, Admin of FifaVoetbal.com

 

[ssj4karan]

Dude dont do that..I want the EA shot mechanics plz include it and as it was posted in the previous post the intermidiate shot mechanic has that problem plus the finesse shot does not feel like a finesse shot as whenever i tyr to use it,Its way off the mark so we do need the EA shot mechanic.

DONT REMOVE IT PLZ!!!!!!

 

[NK FOOTBALL ©]

Dude dont do that..I want the EA shot mechanics plz include it and as it was posted in the previous post the intermidiate shot mechanic has that problem plus the finesse shot does not feel like a finesse shot as whenever i tyr to use it,Its way off the mark so we do need the EA shot mechanic.

DONT REMOVE IT PLZ!!!!!!

hey now don't jump the gun, the intermediate shot mechanic that you have played is NOTHING like the one I have here. Mine is much more like original EA, only better and harder to score.

So don't panic.
NK.

 

[NK FOOTBALL ©]

I've tried the Intermediate shooting system of your latest bèta-version, but my problem still remains. I can only score by headers or volleys, normal shots always go wide.

By the way: two of my 'gameplay dreams'. Could you ever realise them?

* Will it ever be possible to dribble past the goalkeeper or be tackled by the goalie, bringing you in a penalty kick? It happens quite a lot in real life, but as I remember, EA never managed to put it in their FIFA series.
* In the 'UEFA Euro 2004' game, dribbling was quite fun and it was also possible to give the defenders a 'panna' (playing the ball between someone's legs to get past them) or playing the ball next to a defender and running yourself the other way around him (in Belgium we call this 'een bruggetje', literally translated in 'a bridge', no idea if you guys use this word in English). I hope you could ever bring this exciting dribbling experience back into my game

Greets and lots of respect for your work (and I know I'm speaking in the name of the whole FifaVoetbal Forums),

FV|RC, Admin of FifaVoetbal.com

Hey there! Oh an Admin I see. Best wishes to you and your forum

As posted before the Intermediate shooting has been totally re-done.

Dribbling etc will be down to user skill. It'll be hard to dribble with poor players'.

NK.

 

[NK FOOTBALL ©]

If this new shot mechanic passes my tests, there won't be any need for 5. It'll have it all in the 1. I'm experimenting with it now.

I'm going to try and increase cpu defence and attack rapidly.

NK.

 

[NK FOOTBALL ©]

the cpu passing is now much better. They keep possession of the ball more.

cpu defence is more realistic and natural, however it may be slightly easier to break because of this, BUT it is more fun to break.

NK.

 

[NK FOOTBALL ©]

kk enough talk. Try it out guys. Here's WE5beta5.0


download here

feedback asap please! Gotta keep rolling.

:corn:
NK.

 

[FifaVoetbal]

Downloaded and installed it! I just played a Champions League game against Ajax in my Milan career, and I guess it was a long time ago since I enjoyed a FIFA match against the CPU that much! Final score: 3-4, a very late free kick goal by Fabio Grosso (my latest signing) gained me the victory.

The gameplay is absolutely great, but this shooting system issue still remains. To make my problem clear to you, I'll put it in a YouTube video tomorrow using some ingame footage - it'll be a lot easier to explain.

But apart from this: respect, you once again delivered a fine piece of work! Greets, FV|RC.

 

[NK FOOTBALL ©]

Downloaded and installed it! I just played a Champions League game against Ajax in my Milan career, and I guess it was a long time ago since I enjoyed a FIFA match against the CPU that much! Final score: 3-4, a very late free kick goal by Fabio Grosso (my latest signing) gained me the victory.

The gameplay is absolutely great, but this shooting system issue still remains. To make my problem clear to you, I'll put it in a YouTube video tomorrow using some ingame footage - it'll be a lot easier to explain.

But apart from this: respect, you once again delivered a fine piece of work! Greets, FV|RC.

Yes, you will have to YouTube this shooting issue you are having. I can puzzled how this shot mechanic could have the same problem as the last as it is totally different in every aspect!! Especially in terms of difficulty.

Thank you very much for the compliments. I will strive for better!
NK.

 

[NK FOOTBALL ©]

Downloaded and installed it! I just played a Champions League game against Ajax in my Milan career, and I guess it was a long time ago since I enjoyed a FIFA match against the CPU that much! Final score: 3-4, a very late free kick goal by Fabio Grosso (my latest signing) gained me the victory.

The gameplay is absolutely great, but this shooting system issue still remains. To make my problem clear to you, I'll put it in a YouTube video tomorrow using some ingame footage - it'll be a lot easier to explain.

But apart from this: respect, you once again delivered a fine piece of work! Greets, FV|RC.

Oh and how long did you play for? 16 minute match?

NK.

 

[Y0DaddyAlex]

wow, it really plays great now. thank you! i just have one problem... my defenders always mark the wrong guys, they always run away from the box instead of covering the offensive players. toure was playing CB and he ran away from his man when a cross was coming, leaving the rebound wide open... can you make my defenders smarter?

 

[ssj4karan]

Hey buddy tried out your new patch and i have to say its the best effort you have made.Its almost perfect..Infact perfect but i have a small issue,As usual with the shooting

Well here's my problem.

Long shots hardly go in.Why like that?It should be balanced and should solely depend upon the player who is shooting.Players like rooney,Henry,Gerrad,Lampard etc should be able to score with long shots like it was in the original EA shot mechanics.

Then I am not able to shoot the ball where i want.I use the analog sticks to play the game.So when i try tilting it a bit to the left or right for the ball to go to the respective corner of the net,The player shoots it way off target and even no luck with this with the finnese shot either.So you have to make this alright.Sometimes by luck when i have the analog stick straight,The player shoots it to the sides of the net and this not how it should be.Top players should be able to score where they want.Plz change it.Other than this the shooting is great.Just implement this to make it perfect.

This is the way EA original shot mechanics were.You have made the Gk very good and now they make awsome saves.So with your shot mechanic with some EA shot mechanics mixed[The ones i mentioned above]=Perfect shooting mechanics Plus with the improved Gk it cant get better.

So thats my Opinion.Hope you make the changes to your default shooting or just give me an EA original shot mechanic as planned and i'll be pleased and happy.

Rest everything is fine.Dont change anything else.Maybe the passing as again it felt a bit out of hand

I am still able to score 3-4 goals per match against top sides in WC difficulty and in 6 mins time limit

 

[cosminnfs]

Hei NK i tried it too and it's very very good. Finally I'm pleased :P. So anyway my suggestions for this gameplay is to make the CPU marking in the center of the park and up front less pin-point, more.... i don't know more... approximate cause they mark the same way all over the pitch. The marking should get better/more alert towards the CPU's defence line. If you could do that it would be great. Also I agree with the long-shots... they go 85% wide even when the player is free of marking. Also make the CPU just a little bit but only a bit less aggressive, less rushing cause I don't even get to receive the ball and the CPU already takes it off me. And one more thing would be to make the CPU players not so stiff...so good on their feet like they're mountains cause it makes the human players look like little girls. When I want to dribble a defender they just stick a shoulder and i'm down. Make it even. Also I absolutely love the way the ball sticks more to the player that has the ball when entering a collision with another player. Now the ball isn't won every time by the challenger.

 

[NK FOOTBALL ©]

Hei NK i tried it too and it's very very good. Finally I'm pleased :P. So anyway my suggestions for this gameplay is to make the CPU marking in the center of the park and up front less pin-point, more.... i don't know more... approximate cause they mark the same way all over the pitch. The marking should get better/more alert towards the CPU's defence line. If you could do that it would be great. Also I agree with the long-shots... they go 85% wide even when the player is free of marking. Also make the CPU just a little bit but only a bit less aggressive, less rushing cause I don't even get to receive the ball and the CPU already takes it off me. And one more thing would be to make the CPU players not so stiff...so good on their feet like they're mountains cause it makes the human players look like little girls. When I want to dribble a defender they just stick a shoulder and i'm down. Make it even. Also I absolutely love the way the ball sticks more to the player that has the ball when entering a collision with another player. Now the ball isn't won every time by the challenger.

Hey there, you played on semi-pro right? I can make the usual adjustments to this difficulty level. However, quite a few gamers such as ssj4karan claims to be scoring on world class upto 4 goals in 6 min halves. This is why World Class difficulty will get more challenging but in the most realistic ways I can. Got to remeber this is a video-game and sometimes it's got to be real challenging just to keep the user happy! A no-brainer goal is so baaaad, agree?


On semi-pro I will decrease the cpu aggression for obtaining possession of the ball towards the ball-handler. This means they'll hold off more.

Thanks buddy. I'll try sort out the shooting. I'll decrease error on dribbling. So if you sprint, it's got a good chance of missing. But if you dribble careful and have the time and space, it's got a much higher chance. I guess my value for error on dribble-shooting was too high.

NK.

 

[Y0DaddyAlex]

I also play on world class and would like harder defenses to break, and also my defenders to be a little smarter. Also the CPU is too aggressive, they try to go for a tackle and miss, even the last row of defenders, making it kind of easy to get by them. Plus they always still grab onto me and drag me down everytime... And lastly, having their throw-ins tougher to steal would be a nice addition...

 

[NK FOOTBALL ©]

guys there's a big issue with the shooting system and it is one I KNEW would happen to myself, but I'm not sure of you guys.

I can score way too many goals. I have just scored two screamers with finesse way too easy on world class. This is the reason I make shooting difficult, only here is my idea.

I will make the shooting challenging to direct, ground shots possible, high finesse shots possible, overall DIFFICULT shooting. BUT the goalkeepers will have delays and reactions that aren't perfect and not to the point where it is silly watching superhuman GK's in each match. I will test this and release my version for you guys. If both versions are liked (there's a half of players' who aren't giving feedback who prefer this idea), then I will release WE5 with, again a Type B version. Of course both versions will be listed so you know which one is which.


EDIT: Another reason this needing harder shooting is that I play a full 20 minute match. And some guys are scoring 4 goals in 6 minutes!! See the problem??

NK.