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NFL 2013 Thread

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Pedro
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Mandieta6;3701135 said:
Isn't forcing someone to work when he doesn't want to and has served his contract kind of like slavery?

It's something that's agreed on between the team and the player. If it really were to be the case that the player had no desire to play for that team, he would "hold out" and not sign the franchise tender. Then what would proceed would be that he would most likely have to sit out or be traded to the highest bidder.


Mandieta6;3701160 said:
I get that if the union bargained for it then they accept it but it sounds extremely backwards to me for someone to be forced to work somewhere he doesn't want to work at anymore. What if he wants to retire?


He could still retire without any problem if that were the case.
 

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Pedro
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Mandieta6;3701137 said:
Also, what if you were earning the most out of everyone at your position? Wouldn't you be forced to stay AND lose money?

That doesn't happen because if players have strong season they tend to get contract extensions for better money, and that usually means that the value will keep increasing. The franchise tag keep increasing in value, so it's usually a higher amount than what the player is making currently.

Just because a player is franchise tagged it doesn't mean that they are automatically forced to play another year with said team. It can be used as a form of leverage for the team to get something out of a player they wouldn't otherwise have gotten anything out of. An example would be like making a player extend his contract for one year so he can't leave on a bossman and make a profit.

A good example is when Tom Brady got hurt, Matt Cassel had a strong season. But his contract was expiring after that year. He was franchise tagged by the Pats even though they never intended to keep him. Then they traded him for a 2nd rounder to the Chiefs. If they hadn't done that Cassel would have been free to sign wherever at no cost to the other teams and Pats would have gotten nothing out of him.
 

ShiftyPowers

Make America Great Again
Mandieta6;3700991 said:
You really can't resist nicknames can you? I thankfully know who Megatron is but it really must be a sickness for you to respind to a noob asking about best players by stating a nickname.

In reards to the franchise tag, why do you have a clause that allows teams to extend a contract beyond a player's consent? Does that violate some sort of labour law?

Megatron is more commonly used than the player's actual name.

Slaves usually don't get paid, so no it is not like slavery and because it is collectively bargained between the union and the owners, it is legal. The play is still free to retire, and he is also free to decline the tag and hold out for the entire season, although this is not advisable.
 

Mandieta6

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I thought he could not reject the tag, nevermind then.

And even if it's more commonly used, it's still a dick move because the person who is asking tthe question isn't in the loop and has no idea. It's not like it's the name on his shirt. In nirmal conversation I'd get it, in that context it doesn't make sense.
 

ShiftyPowers

Make America Great Again
Well you can't really reject it, the other option is sitting out all year. I can't really defend the franchise tag, I don't care for it myself, but in terms of legality it was collectively bargained and therefore okay.

You are in the NFL thread, and again Megatron is used so often that he may as well wear it on the back of his jersey.
 

Mandieta6

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It's still stupid to tell someone who's asking about the best NFL players to just say Megatron. It's not like Hulk or Ronaldinho, where they only go by that name. If someone asked me about wingers I wouldn't say Kuba, for example.
 

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Alex

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Mandieta6;3701137 said:
Also, what if you were earning the most out of everyone at your position? Wouldn't you be forced to stay AND lose money?

A franchise player's contract is the average of the top 5 in his position OR 120% of his prior year salary - whichever is higher.
 


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