Memories of '65 - Inter v Pool [P+R]


The Von Trapps
The only Champions League match of the week, and it might just be a cracker ... will be up to Inter to provide that impetus ... having just celebrated their Centenary with a win over the weekend, the Nerazzuri will be looking to make sure the party isn't pooped [on] by the 'Pool ... but, as many of you may know, there is a sense of history that both this tie and this juncture provides ...

The weight of history hangs on FC Internazionale Milano as they mark their centenary. Few clubs can match the Nerazzurri's rich heritage. Two European Champion Clubs' Cups, 15 Scudettos, three UEFA Cups and countless other trophies illuminate a glorious past.

European goal
Since completing their quest to reclaim the Scudetto in 2007, they have dominated Serie A like few sides before them. And still it is not enough. While Inter hold sway on home soil, their great rivals AC Milan compete on a larger playing field. Europe is the Rossoneri's battleground. Since Inter last won the European Cup in 1965, Milan have triumphed six times. As Inter celebrate reaching 100 on Saturday they are desperate to right the balance.

Liverpool vanquished
The 2-0 away defeat by Liverpool FC in the first leg of their UEFA Champions League first knockout round tie has threatened to spoil the party. History, though, gives Roberto Mancini's team hope. The last time Inter lifted the continent's most coveted prize, 43 years ago, they had lost the first leg of their semi-final 3-1 at Anfield, but advanced thanks to a stirring 3-0 second-leg victory at San Siro.

'History repeating'
The return game this year will be played on 11 March, three days after Inter's birthday bash, and coach Mancini is intent on delivering a similar outcome. "It does seem like a coincidence, but perhaps history is repeating itself," he said. "We need three goals to qualify and clearly this side is capable of it. Liverpool did not create much in the first leg, but kept us under pressure. Unfortunately the last five minutes proved decisive. But I still think we can do it."

'Legendary match'
Mario Corso, Peirò and former Inter president Giacinto Facchetti, who died in 2006, scored the goals for Inter in the famous comeback. "Facchetti told me many times about those legendary matches against Liverpool in 1965 and, for me, it was a great privilege to listen to him," Inter captain Javier Zanetti said before the first leg at Anfield."

'Nice memory'
Inter president Massimo Moratti, who is preparing a series of events for the centenary, remembers the tie in 1965 when his father Angelo was club president and Helenio Herrera coach. "It's a really nice memory," he said. "I went with my father to watch the first leg. We took a flight to London and then another one to Liverpool.

'We will qualify'
"It was very strange for me to see English people using planes as we were still on buses more than 40 years ago. Their great fans ensured there was an incredible atmosphere at Anfield and we struggled. The return leg, however, was one of the best games in our history. I remember Herrera saying 'We will qualify' in the changing room after the game at Anfield. Mancini's words had more or less the same sense after the first leg."

The Beatles had released four albums prior to the game against Liverpool on 12 May 1965. The fifth, Help, would arrive a couple of months later. According to Moratti, though, Inter should not require any on Tuesday. "The players gave a heroic performance two weeks ago with only ten men after Marco Materazzi was sent off. It was a display of character, because we held up against the Liverpool attack and their crowd.

'Right mentality'
"Our season would still be good if we only win the Scudetto but I think our Champions League campaign can continue. We have the right coach, the right players, the right team mentality. We have everything to make it. Everyone must give even more than they have already, but these players can do it." Before kick-off against Reggina Calcio on Saturday, 200 former Inter players from every era will parade around the pitch as part of the celebrations. Their legendary predecessors have shown the way – Mancini's charges must now follow the example.

Inter will be hoping lightning will indeed strike twice ...

in lieu of the usual stats provided the Match Press Kit (currently unavailable due to logistical reasons), here are some facts to hold you over:

• Dirk Kuyt's deflected shot and Steven Gerrard's raking low drive were crushing late blows to a visiting side who had battled bravely for an hour with ten men following the dismissal of Marco Materazzi for a second yellow card after only 30 minutes. The central defender misses this game as the Nerazzurri resume their eighth attempt to win the UEFA Champions League.

• Inter's history at home against sides from England showed that they established an immediate supremacy with the first five games all resulting in home wins, including a 3-0 defeat of Liverpool in the 1964/65 European Champion Clubs' Cup semi-final second leg en route to a second successive triumph in the competition. In none of those five contests was their defence breached and it meant that in four the Milan club went through to the next round, the exception being when they faced Aston Villa FC in the 1994/95 UEFA Cup first round. After the two games had ended in 1-0 wins for the home side, Villa won through in a penalty shoot-out.

• Manchester United FC were the first English visitors to escape defeat, recording a 1-1 draw in the 1998/99 UEFA Champions League quarter-final to complete a 3-1 aggregate triumph on their way to a second European Cup victory. Inter's last two games at home to travellers from England resulted in a 2-2 draw with Newcastle United FC in the 2002/03 UEFA Champions League second group stage and then a crushing 5-1 defeat in the following season's group stage fixture at home to Arsenal FC. In nine ties overall, calculated on a home-and-away basis, Inter have come out on top on six occasions.

• Roberto Mancini's team, seeking a fourth quarter-final place in the last six seasons, showed remorseless form in the group stage, winning all three home games while scoring nine goals. It ensured they won Group G by four points while their last six games at the San Siro in the competition have resulted in five wins and a draw.

• Contrastingly, after their first two away fixtures, Liverpool seemed to be heading for an early departure from a competition in which they have reached two finals in the past three seasons, facing Inter's neighbours AC Milan on each occasion with a victory in 2005 and defeat last May. A 2-1 reverse in Turkey against Beşiktaş JK on Matchday 3 left the Merseyside club at the foot of Group A with just a single point, gained from the 1-1 draw at FC Porto in the first round of fixtures.

• Rafael Benítez's men then got down to business in a serious way, winning all their next three games to clinch second place in the section with ten points, one fewer than Porto. They finished off with a resounding 4-0 triumph at Olympique de Marseille.

• Liverpool's first four visits to Italy for competitive UEFA games left them winless although the 1983/84 European Cup final against AS Roma, staged at the latter's Stadio Olimpico home, ended in triumph in a penalty shoot-out after a 1-1 draw following extra time.

• The English side won at the Olimpico against Roma again in the 2000/01 UEFA Cup fourth round and gained a 0-0 draw there in the following season's UEFA Champions League second group stage against the same side. With a 0-0 draw at Juventus in the 2004/05 quarter-final on their way to lifting club football's greatest club trophy for the fifth time, the Anfield club have remained undefeated in their last three visits to Italy.

Zlatan ftmfw! (FYI: mf = mother f*ckin)


Team Captain
I am not very hopeful.. but if they pull this off I will be estatic.

We need a super performance from Ibrahimovic and Cruz/Crespo.


Elo Ratings
I don't put too much hope either on the return leg to be honest... :(

but, if Inter could win this match to go through QF, I'd feel very pleased.


Starting XI
... a 2-0 result at home is not implausible. I don't know why people are making it sound like Inter need a miracle. Sadly I think the game is going to be a bore, considering the style of football these two teams play.


Senior Squad
Inter are certainly capable of overturning a two goal deficit (as Xifio said, they did so in 1965) but the key to Liverpool progressing is if the keep a tight ship at the back, especially for the first half hour or so, and try and catch Inter on the break and get a crucial away goal.

I reckon it'll end 1-1 on the night, though if Inter do win 3-0 or better I will be giving the old man some stick!!! (H)

newbie original

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Get this................Xabi Alonso is going to MISS the most important game of the season (for his club) because his girlfriend is having a child. After tomorrow night, his club's season may be over.........but his girlfriend will be exactly where she is tonight. He could have made an exception.......who knows, maybe a WIFE (i.e. NOT girlfriend) would have understood!

As for all you clowns writing off Inter, they are MORE than capable of 3-0 at home. And 2 goals (NOT 3) is what they need. They can shut up shop after a second goal and just wait for penalties. Having said that, they have more than enough experience in their squad to score 3 goals at home..............during regulation.


Starting XI
I personally hate judging games by looking at history simply because the UCL is unpredictable and every match is different. Yeah ok, Inter beat Liverpool easy in 1965, but so what? Back then Liverpool were inexperienced in Europe and Inter were considered the best in Europe. And it's not like a player that played in 1965 still plays for Inter today! :crazyboy:

So history is meaningless because the conditions are completely different. Yeah, it can serve as a morale booster for Inter, but to think that Inter will win just because they did so in 1965 doesn't mean anything.

Milan never lost to an English team at the San Siro. Look at what happened.

I too don't get why people are writing Inter off. I too believe they are more than capable of getting 2 goals. The players that will play actually did pretty good this weekend against Reggina, so that is good news. Figo, Viera and Cambiasso improved, Julio Cesar is in form, Zanetti as well (isn't he always) and if Ibra plays like he played Saturday, he will definately score. (I'd personally like to see Suazo up front with Ibra instead of Cruz...)

It all will depend on a few factors: Liverpool's defense and mentality. If Inter get an early goal (hopefully :P) Liverpool must not break down. Also, a great dela will depend on Inter's mentality which will be based on Mancini and the players he will field.

I think Inter need to have a "now or never" attitude and just go for it. I would start with 2 strikers and eventually move more and more people up.

But then again, Inter aren't in great form and our defense will be a liability, so it won't be a total ride in the park for Inter.

The referee factor also will play a role. Depends on what kind of ref that Norwegian dude is. He better not give Inter any reds or I swear Inter fans will lynch him.

Personally I think both teams will go at each other's throat at the start and it will be all down to who can settle down the fastest. As the match will go on Liverpool my start to sit back, and try to nab a goal on a counterattack.

Hopefully, I hope this will be an intense match and I hope for Inter to win. But I don't think the teams (especially Inter) will want to get the game to penalties because I don't think Inter would want to risk that, especially against Reina.


Starting XI
newbie original;2496942 said:
Get this................Xabi Alonso is going to MISS the most important game of the season (for his club) because his girlfriend is having a child. After tomorrow night, his club's season may be over.........but his girlfriend will be exactly where she is tonight. He could have made an exception.......who knows, maybe a WIFE (i.e. NOT girlfriend) would have understood.
This is one of those moments where you have to step back and realize that football's just a game. Let him welcome his son into the world.


Fan Favourite
I cant blame the guy aswell. Even though its his job, at any other job, the same would happen, he would miss work and see his son. I'm hoping for the best, Inter are capable of overturning their deficit but if we dont concede in the first half i think it's over.


The Von Trapps
haha, matrix -- since he's in the stands tonight -- brought valentino rossi and antonio cassano to keep him company ...

0-0 at the half ... been good to watch ... chances have been there ... inter need to keep upping the ante ...


Senior Squad
Could well be, but let's be honest, this ref has been utter sh*te.

It's tough luck on Burdisso, who funnily enough had only just returned to Champions League action after a 6 match ban for that bit of "handbags" at Valencia last season (H)

newbie original

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Gerrard should be taken off.....NOW!!!!!

And DAMN daylight savings time.....I knew it wasn't JUST going to mess me up on Saturday night. ONE FULL HOUR MISSED............


The Von Trapps
4 English teams in the quarters? :-puke:

lots of chances for Inter, but they didn't convert ... two flashed across the face of goal when it would have been a tap-in if it was squared to the open man running in ... lots of freekicks wasted ... the red card didn't help again, and was harsh again ... I still haven't seen a replay of it, but I think the ball that was taken away from Maicon for the goal looked like a handball ...

there's going to be lots of criticism coming for Inter and Mancini and Zlatan (whether it is deserved or not) ... what a shame ...