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< ManUtd.com Sinks to New Low >

Haukur Gudnason

::President Scouser::
Manchester United's official website, ManUtd.com, could be the subject of a police investigation after publishing a hate-filled guide to abusing Liverpool's players and supporters in Spanish.
Considering relations between the two sets of supporters is volatile at the best of times with some fans from both teams being subjected to brutal assaults throughout the years when Liverpool and Manchester United have met, police are thought to believe the decision to publish the article on an official website is particularly irresponsible.


The article appears on the club's official website under the section Fanzone and is billed as "Fanzone presents 'Spanish Scouse-Baiting' as Benitez's Hispanic Liverpool visit Old Trafford".

The article then goes on to explain the Spanish translations for some of the sickest chants directed at Liverpool supporters over the years - including "Build a bonfire, build a bonfire, put the Scousers on the top", "You find a dead rat and you think it's a treat, in your Liverpool slums" and "Feed the Scousers. Let them know it's Christmas time."

Alongside each English chant and Spanish translation is a picture of Rafael Benitez, Xabi Alonso, Luis Garcia and Josemi - implying that it is these four who should be targeted with abuse on Monday night.


While the police may want to talk to someone from Manchester United about the article, it is believed the website editors are under clear instructions from those at the very top to make the content of Fanzone particularly "edgy and controversial" in an attempt to appeal to Manchester United supporters who would rather get their daily fix of United news and comment from one of the many independent websites who have nothing to with the commercial side of the club itself.

While many Manchester United supporters have still not forgiven the club for removing the words 'Football Club' from their badge in 1998 (A decision made during Peter Kenyon's time at Old Trafford because they didn't want their 'brand' to be associated with football when it had become a leisure enterprise which could be linked tonon-footballing matters, such as clothing, media and even other sports such as baseball), articles such as the one that appears on the website today explaining how to abuse Liverpool's players in Spanish, are seen as an attempt to gain some credibility amongst die-hard fans who cringe when they see the likes of mascot Fred the Red.

Here are just a few of the many messages of disgust from Liverpool fans which have flooded in since the official Manchester United website decided to publish the sick feature:

Very poor stuff on an official website. And they wonder why they are the most hated club in the world? Need look no further. Fanzines are different things altogether. I've seen the Man Utd fanzines and they have sunk to lower depths than Liverpool's. However for the official website to come up with discriminatory remarks such as this is a disgrace. Do you see this kind of stuff on our site? No. Do you think that putting songs about throwing Scousers onto fires is showing Man Utd as a great club?
kinetic1978

I can't believe they actually get away with that kind of stuff, with them insults next to the Spanish players' pictures, it could be seen as racist.
don1980

That is an absolute disgrace for the official website. I'm sure the Manchester and Merseyside media would be interested in something like that. Kick racism out of football? For your information, I am not from the city of Liverpool, but if I was, I would certainly be looking at this from Manchester United's Official Website with some level of disgust. Perhaps you should have a word with Mr Bartram to not publish such slanderous material in the future. Despite the mutual rivalry and hatred between both clubs, the representatives of both clubs, from the players down to the website, should be above petty racist rubbish such as this. Or do you think O'Neill and McLeish and their teams' websites should go on about how much they hate Catholics/Protestants, seen as a small section of their fans sing songs about such matters?
ronniewhelanspeg

I wouldn't have bothered if it was an unofficial website. I just find it hard to believe that an OFFICIAL website can post tripe like that.
cusamano

Nothing surprises me at just how low Utd will sink...
sonnycrockett

I thought they might have toned down the "Scouser" bile after signing Rooney.
Josemi-tisam

Personally, I couldn't care less about those songs, heard all those pathetic attempts before and they don't bother me. I just find it staggering that stuff like that is on an official website for a worldwide club. I guess I'm just too used to the top class standards that this club, and everything officially connected with this club, show. I would say the stupidity to put anti-scouse songs on your website after signing a born-and-bred Scouser and having all your fans worshiping him surprised me too.
snez1


http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/drilldown/N146075040919-1115.htm
 

april__29

Youth Team
i can see why it would get peoples gota being on the offcial site but come on its no worse than the scousers singing songs about munich at our ground when we play them or at anfield.. were both as bad as each other
 

Lean

Fan Favourite
Wrong. It's not all the scousers that sing Munich songs and the majority of them disagree about this type of stuff. However, when the official website from a organization publishes a racist, disgraceful hate-filled guide like that, one can say that the organization itself supports this kind of thing.

Liverpool doesnt support Munich chants, just some morons around there.
 

april__29

Youth Team
Originally posted by Grunger
Wrong. It's not all the scousers that sing Munich songs and the majority of them disagree about this type of stuff. However, when the official website from a organization publishes a racist, disgraceful hate-filled guide like that, one can say that the organization itself supports this kind of thing.

Liverpool doesnt support Munich chants, just some morons around there.


yes and the majority of utd fans would disagree with what was published on the site, and to be honest reading what was written while unsavoury is hardly the racist hate-filled guide that some people are making out to be... like i said both sets of fans are as bad as eachother..
 

Lean

Fan Favourite
I know the majority of fans would. But sorry, it was written on a official website, which leads to the conclusion they did it with permission from the Man Utd head organization.

Or are them that stupid NOT to read something before putting it on a site? Plus by saying that the team's fans are as bad as each other, you're taking us away from the core of the argument, which doesnt have anything to do with us Liverpool fans being as bad as Man Utd.

It has to do with a official website from one of the most popular clubs in the world publishing racist stuff against Spanish Pool players.
 

TOON ARMY

Starting XI
Do you see Liverpool posting the Munich songs on their site?

I don't think so.

Just admit it Man United fans, your club promotes racist and xenophobic slander :kader:
 

PhiLLer

Fan Favourite
It's wrong of an official web site to post such stuff. The official site is a load of crap anyway so I wouldn't take much notice.
 

Haukur Gudnason

::President Scouser::
Sunday Times -
September 19, 2004
United Net some trouble



MANCHESTER UNITED were last night forced to remove an astonishing &#8220;guide&#8221; from their official website telling their supporters to indulge in &#8220;Spanish Scouse-baiting&#8221; ahead of their Premiership clash with Liverpool at Old Trafford tomorrow, writes Jim Munro.
The attempt at humour, contained in the site&#8217;s Fanzone section, was based on the influx of Spanish international players at Anfield this season, but included translations for lyrics in provocative football chants such as &#8220;Build a bonfire, build a bonfire, put the Scousers on the top,&#8221; and &#8220;You find a dead rat and you think it&#8217;s a treat, in your Liverpool slums.&#8221;



The Sunday Times received several calls yesterday afternoon from concerned supporters who had read the material on the site. After hearing of some of the lyrics, Les Lawson, chairman of the Merseyside branch of the official Liverpool supporters&#8217; club, said: &#8220;It&#8217;s disgusting. I would have thought that any sort of literature that appears on an official website, whether in a fans section or not, would not appear without the club&#8217;s knowledge. Anything that is to the detriment of another club should certainly not appear. I feel an official apology is in order.&#8221;

Phil Townsend, Manchester United&#8217;s director of communications, said initially last night: &#8220;It&#8217;s a part of the website that is run by the fans. We do not officially endorse what is said. There is a disclaimer contained on the page.&#8221; But within 15 minutes, Townsend was back on the phone to confirm: &#8220;Most of the items will be off the site by 8pm. There will perhaps be a light-hearted one left on, such as the chant about putting the ball into the net, which hopefully everyone will see the funny side of.&#8221;

By midnight though, the contentious page remained unaltered. Contained in the Fanzone section of the official website, subtitled By The Fans, For The Fans, Every Friday, the article declared: &#8220;Fanzone presents &#8216;Spanish Scouse-Baiting&#8217; as Benitez&#8217;s Hispanic Liverpool visit Old Trafford.&#8221;

The page carried pictures of Liverpool&#8217;s new manager, Rafael Benitez, plus new signings Xabi Alonso, Luis Garcia and Josemi and, alongside each man, a Spanish translation of an inflammatory English chant.

Tomorrow&#8217;s fixture is one of the most fiercely contested in the Premiership, both on and off the field, a fact recognised by Benitez. Expressing a hope that all rivalry will remain good- natured, the Liverpool manager said: &#8220;The fans are excited, they will shout at each other, but at the end they will walk out together.&#8221;
 

Kibe Kru

Starting XI
Not a storm in a teacup for sure... well, of course there's gonna be really stupid stuff in Man U x LFC matches... the munich air crash, the hillsboro stuff and everything... however I have never seen anything close to that on LFC's official site... please notice we aren't saying anything about stupid supporters, as there are stupid supporter everywhere in the world and supporting every team... but one thing is to know there is stupidity... another very different is endorsing such stupidity on the official site
I'd be totally disgusted if people on LFC's official site posted anything supposed to be funny about munich's air crash...
 

Haukur Gudnason

::President Scouser::
To be honest. I find it funny that they feel the need to have to do that on the official website. They already have trouble with English what more Spanish mind.



A good twatting on and off the pitch on Monday should set records straight.
 

Gerrard 17

Fan Favourite
Re: < ManUtd.com Sinks to New Low >

Originally posted by Haukur Gudnason
I thought they might have toned down the "Scouser" bile after signing Rooney.
Josemi-tisam

haha, seriously, what retards :D

insulting their own player :D
 

Jacky

Senior Squad
it's a competition... it's good to have rivalries but to start racist comments and probably violence is way too much....

fans should not hate the other team they should respect them....
 


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