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Lucky England

Han

Senior Squad
Re: Lucky England

Originally posted by stuie2k
England 1 Sweden 1

Ive never seen such a dire performance and so many half-hearted players.

Wrong! :)
You English were in such a euphoria since the qualification that you didn't wanna see that England has only a few world class players ( Beckham, Owen, Scholes in this match).
They already played bad against Greece and most of the friendly games (like against Korea) but in your chavinism you English guys closed your eyes for it.
The defense sucks and you have no left midfielder.
I think England will loose aganist Argentina and then they can only hope Argentina will do their best against Sweden, but why should they, if they are already qualified?
I like the English to qualify, but I am pessimistic :(
 

MisterX_K

Reserve Team
i dont agree Han.
Ashley Cole is a left side back but he can also support the team with his long runs on the left wing and also Heskey is quite good in the left midfield however he's definitly a better forward.
anyway, Vassell played well and Hargreaves too.
well, i wouldnt underestimate england.
i hope they qualify before sweden now.
 

arthur

Youth Team
It's the usual story surrounding the build-up to England's World Cup where they hype themselves up into believeing that they will probably win it.

They had one good result against a very poor German side in the qualifiers and suddenly the English media are hyping Eriksson's England into world-beaters. They were very poor and lucky against Greece and not much good against Finland either. The also got soundly beaten and out-classed at home by both Holland and Italy, 2 genuine world-class sides.

Really, how many genuinely great performances have they under Eriksson?

Their performance today was extremely mediocre. Sure, they can play better than that, but not so much better that they'll progress far in this tournament with a huge amount of luck.

So far, the only team I've seen that look clearly weaker than England is Saudi Arabia.
 

bulldrig

Youth Team
Yes England where quite lucky...
England migth have dominated in first half, but they didnt create one single clear chance.
Sweden created many chances in the second half and deserved the win.
 

johnnyboyuk

Youth Team
Who the hell are you to comment, you didn't even ****ing qualify!!
Go suck on ur sour grapes!

To name some of our good players, Beckham, Owen, Vassell, Cole, Cole, Hargreaves, Scholes, Gerrard, Dyer. These are all class acts so shut ur gob!

We played well in the first half and deserved to win. Yet, in teh second half got complacent and lost it. Anyway, who says we're gonna win it?? And if you're not thinking you can win it, you shouldn't even bother turning up!

Beckham just came back from 8 ****in weeks on teh sideline, of course he ain't gonna be on top form!:mad:
 
Damn we played so bad in the first half...
I can't understand why our two stubborn (and stupid) head coaches keep Anders Svensson on the bench all the time. When he came on the pitch the match turned around. If he had played the full match we might have won it which we really should have done...

And why oh why couldn't Lucic score...
 

bulldrig

Youth Team
Why coudlnt Svensson, Larsson, Linderoth scored!?
They all had great chances aswell...

Any way Linderoth was superb, i hope he leaves Everton after this wc.
Alexanderson was the by far worst on the pitch untill he scored, good for the confidence as we all know there is no way he will be benched...
A.Svensson, Jakobsson, both as well migth be able to move to a better club after this wc.

MOM Jakobsson!
 

Han

Senior Squad
Originally posted by johnnyboyuk
Who the hell are you to comment, you didn't even ****ing qualify!!
Go suck on ur sour grapes!

To name some of our good players, Beckham, Owen, Vassell, Cole, Cole, Hargreaves, Scholes, Gerrard, Dyer. These are all class acts so shut ur gob!

We played well in the first half and deserved to win. Yet, in teh second half got complacent and lost it. Anyway, who says we're gonna win it?? And if you're not thinking you can win it, you shouldn't even bother turning up!

Beckham just came back from 8 ****in weeks on teh sideline, of course he ain't gonna be on top form!:mad:

Hmmm... I think you talk against me?
So I am not permitted to say what I think because we didn't qualify? :D
Very rude and immature reaction... let's see.. 16 years of age, yes, you can tell :D
You even can't read, I talked about world class players and not good players and Cole, Cole, Vassel and Dyer are definitly not, but Gerrard will become one, still isn't.
Reading the other opinions overhere, it looks you stand alone in your "analyses" about the match.
 

johnnyboyuk

Youth Team
I may only be 16, but I'm sure I'm a lot maturer then u think Mr Mature. I had every right to react how I did, I'm a proud English man and don't care if you don't like the English. I voiced my opinions in the manner i sought fit. So what if i'm 16, what you haven't even put your age on here! What u tryin 2 hide.

There have only been bout 6-7 posts, so I'm not that alone in my opinions.

You watch Vassell play, and tell me he hasn't got amazing skills and lightning pace!

So don't try and flash your intelligence off, cos frankly I can listen to ur b**l all day!:p
 

LTJ

Youth Team
You've got to love these people who think that in some way they get one over on us when our football team doesn't perform. Today we completely outplayed Sweden first half, but Erikkson's inability to get us playing football rather than long balls cost us. As usual, Seaman made a complete mess of the shot and let it in.

The defense sucks and you have no left midfielder.

Sorry, I just want to re-read this..

The defense sucks

Erm.. Rio Ferdinand, the equal of any defender in the competition. Sol Campbell, not that much worse. Bridge/Cole who are both class left backs and Mills who is potentially world class. The defense sucks. Hmm...


England has only a few world class players ( Beckham, Owen, Scholes in this match).

World class players. Gerrard is quite clearly world class. Ferdinand as well. Add those 3 and it makes 5. I can't see very many teams in the competition with 5 world class players and players of the class of Hargreaves.


Holland and Italy, 2 genuine world-class sides.

That's right, Holland are a world class side aren't they. They'll probably go far in the world cup then.. oh hang on they didn't make it.

Sweden created many chances in the second half and deserved the win.

Quite frankly, b*llocks. They were lucky to score in the first place, but eventually a draw was the fair result. Remove Heskey from the equation, add Gerrard and give Beckham full fitness and we'd have been fine.
 

Han

Senior Squad
Originally posted by ps2
A lot of angry English peps around here:p
Han, me boy, i think u r in trouble :D

LOL! :D
Yes, I thought about waiting with my post, thinking about the mood of them, but friday night is probably an even worse time to do that... Oops! now they might be even more angry j/k :D

BTW LTJ, it wasn't me who said Holland is a world class side... I am not guilty of everything in this topic :)
 

adam voorhees

Club Supporter
Well im English and an England supporter 100% but im also a realist. I really cant see us winning this world cup but obvisously hope we do and i'll scream and shout my support at the tv throughout every England game as im sure any supporter of any national team would be, be it Brazil or the Saudis!

About the England vs Sweden game I feel that England played well in the first have despite not creating alot of clear cut chances they did play well together as a team, although this all changed 2nd half when Sweden really pushed us and they fully deserved there point. Sure Danny Mills made an error for the goal but Sweden had a couple of other good chances that they could of clearly scored from and on another day they could of nicked the 3 points BUT i do feel that a draw was a fair result.

On England and there players apart from Beckham and his bad foot, i feel we miss Gerrard even though Hargreaves is doing very well i dont feel he has had a chance the build a relationship in the middle of the park with Scholes yet and this was evident within the game as there lack of communication and understanding of each other aloud the Swedes in behind them several times. Also Heskey needs to play like a big man and use his height and strength instead of trying to be all skillful or hold the ball up looking to bring people in all the time. GO THROUGH THEM MAN!!! oh and he needs to stay on his feet too the big poof :D Also him on the left really doesn't help him and the opinion i have of him (not his fault he is on the left i know and thats he is just trying to do a job for the team i know as well)

Just my views and of cause u have urs and thats why were all different. It shows as people still support Millwall! :p

p.s. owen didn't ever get into the game and we cant afford a player of his threat to not be a factor in big games.
 
Originally posted by LTJ
Quite frankly, b*llocks. They were lucky to score in the first place, but eventually a draw was the fair result. Remove Heskey from the equation, add Gerrard and give Beckham full fitness and we'd have been fine.
Sure, our goal was as lucky as yours. If it hadn't been for Mjällby not picking up his man and Hedman (has been) going out trying to pick a ball so badly he was cut off by Campbell, you wouldn't had scored either.
After seeing the first half I never thought we would be able to even get a draw. The team played awful.
But after seeing how we played in the second half when we got Anders Svensson on the pitch I feel we lost 2 points because of that our stupid coaches are to coward to let him play in the starting eleven. If we had had Anders Svensson on the pitch from the start we would have won. He is the most creative and the player with most flair in Sweden today.
 

Decado

Youth Team
Originally posted by LTJ
Remove Heskey from the equation, add Gerrard and give Beckham full fitness and we'd have been fine.

I thought Heskey is a great player.

Is Fowler on this team? I don't recall seeing him.
 


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