liverpool fans please make big posters that say "RAFA PLEASE HAVE MERCY ON US AND RETIRE". guys dont mind on this the CHamp.league was won by gerrard and co. not rafaa.last season i thought he is becoming mentally stable now.STEVI G is my favourite player and rafa is spoiling his career.last season gerrard played well in that role because it was a surprise the new system for evryone.he misses xabi on the pitch.benitezes crush on gareth barry cost him xabi alonso and yet he couldnt get him.for the last five years he has been doing crazy stuff this man.just see how many players were signed most of them i dont know.i dont know if youl agree but he has killed many players career because i think babel is and pennant was very talented.kuyt is a good tournament player.i never heard of steven gerrard praising rafa from his heart.man management is very important but rafa only works for himself no one else.he is jelous of sir alex and wants to be as powerful as him.but he doesnt give dyamn.guys just imagine in five years u could buy atleast five classy players.that are first team regulars.benayoun is a good player but what he did at reading shows hes not yet world class.glen johnson trust me is a gamble.but back up????philip degen i have never seen him.think guys think rafa should go so should the americans.im a man u fan but i just love the spirit u guys have.i respect you and wish u luck.
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drummodino
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i personally believe that rafa should just let torres and gerrard have whatever operations they need to get fully fit no matter how long they will be out for. they are not fully fit and with these latest injuries it is the perfect time to get them fixed up. playing them underdone is only going to agravate their problems. give players like riera and babel a decent run in the first team and trust them to play their best. you did sign them rafa so use them not just leave them to rot on the sideline.
on another note who do u think should be in the starting lineup for the stoke match? this is my opinion:
Kuyt
Riera Aquilani Rodriguez
Masch Lucas
Aurelio Skrtel Agger Carra
Reina
give kuyt a run upfront, dont rely on Ngog hes not mature enough even if he has talent. plzplz dont play degen hes a crab play Carraghar at RB or Kelly. Insua is sh*t and doesnt deserve a run. however i know this is just dreaming, he ll play insua and Ngog, leave riera out and prob rodriguez. and we ll lose again cuz he's too stubborn to change his tactics or leave out his favourites (kuyt, insua etc)
on another note who do u think should be in the starting lineup for the stoke match? this is my opinion:
Kuyt
Riera Aquilani Rodriguez
Masch Lucas
Aurelio Skrtel Agger Carra
Reina
give kuyt a run upfront, dont rely on Ngog hes not mature enough even if he has talent. plzplz dont play degen hes a crab play Carraghar at RB or Kelly. Insua is sh*t and doesnt deserve a run. however i know this is just dreaming, he ll play insua and Ngog, leave riera out and prob rodriguez. and we ll lose again cuz he's too stubborn to change his tactics or leave out his favourites (kuyt, insua etc)
i told u he is insane a free scoring second striker babel made him a winger.i find kuyt on the wing a bit justified due a tactical point of view.and drummo i prefer ur line up but i think carra needs a rest.maxi is a good player i kinda liked the signing.but u guys do miss xabi alonso he complimented the whole team.specialy stevi G.neways best of luck hope u guys get lucky soon enough and u will
We just need to win the games we're supposed to win.....that's the way it has always been for us this season.
That wasn't a problem last season when we finished the season strong and were 2nd in the standings.....with almost the same squad. Why the hell weren't you idiots criticizing Rafa then?
kp40;2801369 said:
That wasn't a problem last season when we finished the season strong and were 2nd in the standings.....with almost the same squad. Why the hell weren't you idiots criticizing Rafa then?
MaestroZidane
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I wouldn't criticize him, It's only liverpool that he is bringing down...
We're spent a lot on transfers in Rafa's time. Guess what, we've been forced(for financial reasons) to sell A LOT of those players and have, in the process, recovered a lot of the money spent to buy them. Chelsea, for example, haven't been FORCED to sell....atleast not since 2003.
People get us confused for being in the same league as ManU, Real, Chelsea, Milan or Barca......we're only in the same league as a club like Inter(pre-match fixing) or Bayern. We're in, and have always been in(for the past 2 decades anyways) that second tier. Unless we're bought by a billionaire, that won't change.
Our defensive style was frowned on. People like you complained. He changed it to a more attacking style........yet you're still complaining. When Chelsea employs that same frustrating style, their championed for it. The epitome of a double standard......
Real Madrid brought Liverpool down by unsettling Xabi Alonso. Quite frankly, I blame your club for our fall this season. I never had such a lack of respect for Real Madrid as I did on that day when Xabi's transfer was confirmed.
People get us confused for being in the same league as ManU, Real, Chelsea, Milan or Barca......we're only in the same league as a club like Inter(pre-match fixing) or Bayern. We're in, and have always been in(for the past 2 decades anyways) that second tier. Unless we're bought by a billionaire, that won't change.
Mandieta6;2806331 said:
Our defensive style was frowned on. People like you complained. He changed it to a more attacking style........yet you're still complaining. When Chelsea employs that same frustrating style, their championed for it. The epitome of a double standard......
MaestroZidane;2806343 said:
Real Madrid brought Liverpool down by unsettling Xabi Alonso. Quite frankly, I blame your club for our fall this season. I never had such a lack of respect for Real Madrid as I did on that day when Xabi's transfer was confirmed.
MaestroZidane
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newbie original;2806358 said:
Right, because we all know that Rafa's intentions of selling him months before had nothing to with it...
Arnau;2806702 said:
That's an opinion.....your opinion. If Rafa and bottomless pockets, your opinion would change.
Mandieta6;2806633 said:
With the quality of players they can afford, I can't imagine how anything other than success, independent of style of play, would be possible.....or even acceptable for that matter.
MaestroZidane;2806377 said:Right, because we all know that Rafa's intentions of selling him months before had nothing to with it...
IF he TRULY did, we would have had Garreth Barry training with us after EURO 2008....he would have started as a LW and then switched over the the center as a replacement for Xabi.
That is, of course, IF he truly did........
Ever since Benitez strolled in, Pool have been the 2nd biggest spenders in the League behind Chelsea, perhaps 3rd now that City got sheiked. That's more than United who momentarily broke the British record with Berba, and brought in Carrick, Anderson, Nani, Tosic, Hargreaves and Valencia for 15+m deals in that period. Rafa's player turnover is laughable. How many players has HE brought and then sold? Dozens. Had he used the money he did have properly you would have a good enough squad right now, and since he's spent more than every other club barring those owned by billionaires, the whole 'he had nothing to spend' argument is lacking at best. You've also spent more than we have since 2007.
He doesn't have anything to spend NOW. Had half of the players he broguth in turned out to be anywhere near good enugh, you wouldn't be in this situation. That is Rafa's fault. Actually, I bet I could assemble a squad that would beat Pool's with the players he's sold as basis. Crouch, Keane, Sissoko, Bellamy, Warnock, Riise, etc.
The most astonishing fact is that fans are complaining that you have no one to deputise for Torres, when so many top strikers have come and gone under Rafa. Even Fowler would do right now.
He doesn't have anything to spend NOW. Had half of the players he broguth in turned out to be anywhere near good enugh, you wouldn't be in this situation. That is Rafa's fault. Actually, I bet I could assemble a squad that would beat Pool's with the players he's sold as basis. Crouch, Keane, Sissoko, Bellamy, Warnock, Riise, etc.
The most astonishing fact is that fans are complaining that you have no one to deputise for Torres, when so many top strikers have come and gone under Rafa. Even Fowler would do right now.
Spending more than Chelsea since 2007 doesnt come as a valid argument considering how much you've spent previously by revamping a slightly better than average squad turning it into world beaters. But anyway, when someone says Rafa's transfer policy is inept, I agree.
He made two great signings and those were Torres and Xabi. Arbeloa was reasonable in his time, but the amount of fringe and/or unsuccessful players he's brought is unacceptable. Maybe due to the fact that despite having enough funds for transfers, Rafa could never compete for his primary targets, then he turned to his second or third options. And that's Liverpool are right now, a squad that screams the word "fringe" all over it. But even so, our lack of squad depth is Rafa's fault. Moyes has managed two sixth place finishes with half of his squad depleted by injuries in the last two seasons, and he's got no Gerrard and no Torres, and let's not talk about money spent.
The thing is, expectations at Liverpool are higher and the pressure is bigger. But the truth is our manager has assembled a squad that's not good enough to play for Liverpool, which means a squad not being good enough to challenge for honours season in season out, something we fans expect. He's got other qualities as a manager tho, aka his tactical abilities and the way players get behind him when his job is in jeopardy, let's see if that's enough to save his skin.
He made two great signings and those were Torres and Xabi. Arbeloa was reasonable in his time, but the amount of fringe and/or unsuccessful players he's brought is unacceptable. Maybe due to the fact that despite having enough funds for transfers, Rafa could never compete for his primary targets, then he turned to his second or third options. And that's Liverpool are right now, a squad that screams the word "fringe" all over it. But even so, our lack of squad depth is Rafa's fault. Moyes has managed two sixth place finishes with half of his squad depleted by injuries in the last two seasons, and he's got no Gerrard and no Torres, and let's not talk about money spent.
The thing is, expectations at Liverpool are higher and the pressure is bigger. But the truth is our manager has assembled a squad that's not good enough to play for Liverpool, which means a squad not being good enough to challenge for honours season in season out, something we fans expect. He's got other qualities as a manager tho, aka his tactical abilities and the way players get behind him when his job is in jeopardy, let's see if that's enough to save his skin.
Pathetic. Frankly, I bet on a 1-1 result, and that says enough. It wasn't any hatred on my part optimistically hoping you do badly, it was realism. Couldn't even score a goal.
Been reading that some fans are blaming Gerrard. Frankly, no one is safe from the criticism, but how the **** is Rafa still in charge? Give him the 5m or 20m to terminate his contract and get someone who will at least secure the CL money for next year.
What a joke of a side.
Been reading that some fans are blaming Gerrard. Frankly, no one is safe from the criticism, but how the **** is Rafa still in charge? Give him the 5m or 20m to terminate his contract and get someone who will at least secure the CL money for next year.
What a joke of a side.
MaestroZidane
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It's simple.. because the Fans think is the owners fault and not Rafa's. They can say it to themselves many times over... but it doesn't mean it's right, in the end it doesn't matter... It's only liverpool.