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Liioadin's national teams (cmp files)

mrliioadin

Senior Squad
I will open up to requests for unaffiliated teams as well within reason. Many of the unaffiliates left do not have full rosters available online so IF I made a team like Mayotte for example. 15 or more of the players would be invented.

I doubt anyone is gonna take me up on that anyway but the option is there.

Thanks again guys for all the support.
 

Biebrich 02

Senior Squad
mrliioadin;2344544 said:
I doubt anyone is gonna take me up on that anyway but the option is there.

You do? I don't. :mexican:

Requests are something I'm good at.

I'd love to see Greenland, Tibet and Chechnya (we might get some problems with that... you know what i mean...), and Western Sahara (same problem here). Also the spanish teams, Asturia, Basque Country (i think that's the english word?), etc.

Oh, and of course Sealand :)

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If you plan to make any of these teams, i'd help with graphic stuff, kits.
 

mrliioadin

Senior Squad
I'll make em august if you don't mind the made up players names.

Makispla.... holy.................... :$

Sam... It's already been stated that roster updates are next.

By the way. Sealand national football team will be made when you can make me a home stadium on their "Land" haha. They are a total joke and I have very little interest in making the team.

Greenland is one I'de like to make but I wish we could get an indoor turf stadium made for. Chechnya I don't have much interest in but I see now reason not to make 'em.
Tibet is out there competing and we could probably work out some way to make that team work.
Gibralter is one I'm very interested in but I wish they would play some games.

I haven't done much research into Austuria and Basque County
 

Biebrich 02

Senior Squad
no problem with made up names. a sealand stadium? would be an interesting job. a lone football field completely surrounded by the sea... and instead of tribunes next the field there is sealand itself, with the people cheering for the team on the platform. On the other side there could be a parking lot with ships and amphib planes.
Or they could play on an aircraft carrier. But i prefer the first option.

doesn't greenland play in denmark anyway?

i see, those teams are difficult to make...
 

Esterry88

Youth Team
Would be great to see Kosovo mate..
Do you need informationS?

Maybe some other Oceania too, like Nauru Islands or again from somewhere else, Christmas Islands or Cocos Islands :bob:

I think there's also Saami/Lapland from Finland.
 

mrliioadin

Senior Squad
I think oceania is the one that we'll find the most info for actually. The non-affiliates play in tournaments regularly. Niue, Palau, etc.

I don't want to get too bogged down doing unaffiliated teams right now though but let's go ahead and decide on one or two we'll add in the near future. I have a lot of Mayotte done, but again... no player names.

Because we completed the affiliated national teams I wanted to go back and reassign attributes to the various leagues starting in europe. In Europe, I played with these a ton and no matter how much I did for the most part the origional rankings just worked better. What I ended up doing in the end was slightly modifying the teams from position 6-15 , I moved Sweden up about 6 places (upping their league from 63 to 71 as their top player) and left the rest alone.

In Asia, The AFC divided their members into Developed, Developing, and Emerging nations. I used those deliniations to rate the teams and each tier does overlap slightly.

In South America, I rated Argentina very high, Brazil a little lower... the rest of the teams are equal to their suggested best player rating.

In North America, I assigned specific ratings to Mexico, Costa Rica, USA, Jamaica, Trinidad & Tobago, because these are typically the European recruiting grounds when they look in N.A. The rest are very close to their Suggested best player rating.

In Oceania, New Zealand is boosted a bit, the rest are equal or close to their "Suggested best player" rating.

In Africa, I think one of the be reasons the african teams are as strong as they are is because of the quantity of players they have in the foreign (European) leagues. I started their ratings rather low and identified Egypt and South Africa as being the top tier nations, the rest were ranking in order of the Suggested best player rating, and are often quite close to them but start at 67 rather than at 89.

Here are the values players FOREIGN players can receive if they are on a team in this league.

NOTES: this is for foreign players only. Domestic players must remain at their origional "Suggested best player" attributes. There are a few rules that will allow for exceptions to these values.

Spain 99
Italy 99
England 99
France 99
Germany 99
Argentina 98
Portugal 96
Netherlands 96
Brazil 95
Mexico 92
Greece 87
Russia 87
Romania 86
Scotland 86
Belgium 86
Uruguay 86
Ukraine 85
Czech Republic 85
Turkey 85
United States 84
Switzerland 84
Bulgaria 84
Costa Rica 83
Israel 83
Jamaica 82
Paraguay 81
Australia 80
Trinidad & Tobago 80
Honduras 79
Norway 78
Ecuador 76
Colombia 75
Korea Republic 74
Austria 73
Japan 71
SWEDEN 71
Uzbekistan 70
South Africa 70
Egypt 70
Serbia 70
Peru 69
Chile 68
Poland 68
Denmark 68
Qatar 67
Nigeria 67
Cameroon 66
Ivory Coast 65
Guatemala 65
Saudi Arabia 64
Guinea 64
Ghana 63
Hungary 63
Croatia 63
Senegal 62
Slovakia 62
United Arab Emerates 61
Morocco 61
Togo 60
Angola 60
Venezeula 58
Bahrain 58
China 58
Zambia 58
Mali 58
MONTENEGRO 58
Thailand 57
Congo DR 56
Kuwait 55
Zimbabwe 55
Cyprus 55
Singapore 54
Burkina Faso 54
Slovenia 54
Bosnia-Herzegovina 54
Finland 54
Latvia 53
Bolivia 52
Iraq 52
Moldova 52
Korea DPR 51
Oman 51
Libya 51
Algeria 51
Georgia 51
Malawi 50
Equitorial Guinea 50
New Zealand 50
Lithuania 50
FYR Macedonia 50
Indonesia 49
Gabon 49
Ethiopia 49
Uganda 49
Iceland 49
Liechtenstein 48
Jordan 47
India 47
Panama 47
Belarus 47
Vietnam 46
Cape Verde Islands 46
Ireland 46
Botswana 45
Albania 45
Benin 44
Armenia 44
Lebanon 43
Rwanda 43
Congo-Brazzeville 43
Estonia 43
Syria 42
Sudan 42
Malta 42
Wales 42
Northern Ireland 42
Hong Kong 41
Kenya 41
Saint Lucia 41
Azerbaijan 41
Luxembourg 41
Kazakhstan 41
Faroe Islands 40
Guyana 39
Haiti 39
Fiji 39
Solomon Islands 39
Maldives 38
Yemen 38
Mozambique 38
Chad 37
St. Vincent & The Gren. 37
Lesotho 36
Tanzania 36
Liberia 36
Tajikistan 35
Seychelles 35
Namibia 35
Réunion 35
St. Kitts and Nevis 35
Kyrgyzstan 34
Zanzibar 34
Mauritius 34
El Salvador 34
Bangledesh 33
Malaysia 33
Chinese Taipei 33
Antigua & Barbuda 33
Barbados 32
San Marino 32
Andorra 32
Palestine 31
Swaziland 31
Sierra Leone 31
Madagascar 31
Turkmenistan 30
Sri Lanka 30
Pakistan 30
Burundi 30
Gambia 30
Grenada 30
Suriname 30
Myanmar 29
Bermuda 29
Nicaragua 29
Vanuatu 29
Tahiti 29
Nepal 28
British Virgin Islands 28
Mauritania 27
Niger 27
Central African Republic 27
Dominican Republic 27
Papua New Guinea 27
New Caledonia 27
Afghanistan 26
Eritrea 26
Guinea-Bissau 26
Somalia 26
Cayman Islands 26
Brunei 25
Netherlands Antillies 25
Dominica 25
Laos 24
Mongolia 24
Puerto Rico 24
Tonga 24
Samoa 24
Bhutan 23
Cambodia 23
Macau 23
Djibouti 23
Bahamas 23
Anguilla 23
Cook Islands 23
Philippines 22
São Tomé e Principe 22
Comoros 21
American Samoa 21
Belize 20
Aruba 20
Guam 19
US Virgin Islands 19
Turks and Caicos Islands 19
Montserrat 18
Timor-Leste 16


You see The nation's name then the League Rating. The BEST player in the league would recieve the rating you see listed there. Each league has a range of 20. So the English Premier League starts at 99, the worst player in the league would receive a 79.

To compensate for PROMOTION/RELEGATION and some second division sides potentially being stroner than first division sides (Watford was EPL now in championship). The League ratings overlap for lower divisions. Take the origional league rating and subtract 15 to get the league rating for the second division. So the EPL is 99-79. the Championship would be 84-64.

I'll give ya a breakdown of the allowable exceptions League Based Rankings System:

Exception 1: "Exceptional Domestic League Rule"

The English Premier League has a rating of 99. The national team is roughly a 94. 94 is England's Team Chemistry and their "Suggested Best Player rating". FOR DOMESTIC players, because their league in a nieve sence is better than their national team, the players are allowed to improve up to the leagues highest rating as long as they do not exceed 10 total attribute points. So John Terry for example, one of the best English footballers would origionally have recieved a rating of 94. Because, in my oppinion, he is one of the best defenders in the world... he can receive up to a 99 rating. This is called the "Domestic player rule" It allows you some freedom for attributes for domestic players in very good leagues, whose national teams might not be rated so high.

Exception 2: "Star Player Rule"

If you help with attributes at any point, use this rule as seldomly as possible. Often you will find Standout players on a national team still playing in their home country or in a rather low rated league. While I don't have a great European example we can use Baichung Bhutia from India as an example. The AFC has broken down their confederation into Developed, Developing, and improving (or something like that) leagues. Bhutia won the Player of the year award for the AFC Developing nations but had a much lower rating due to India's domestic ratings and obviously he is a domestic player so was limited in how high his ratings could go. This rule allows you to FOR ONE PLAYER PER TEAM, ignore all other ratings and using your best judgement, come up with your own rating for them. I gave Bhutia an equal rating to the highest attribute in the highest league in the Developing nations catagory.

Exception 3: "Old Guy Playing Down Rule"

David Beckham, is still appearing for the English side and is playing very well. But he's gonna be in the MLS which has a much lower rating. The "Old guys playing down rule" is used to find players who are near retirement and want to move to a weaker league to finish out their days. often these players return to their home country and are still playing at a much higher level. You can assign them a value based on their last foreign club. Or if they just signed a contract with a lower division team (still forgein) base it on their last highly rated club. (a few players in the caribbean were playing in Football League 1. They moved into the Conference division and even lower, just to finish out their days playing at a lower level.

This is the second edition of the LBRS and I hope I've made some strong changes that will sort out problems we've seen with the India national team, USA, and many others.

I'll be using this system to rerate players on every team in the world taking it a little bit at a time. I hope to start in Europe and go group by group based on my home tournaments which would put Russia first. I'll provide roster updates as they come available.

Please keep in mind that this is a massive project to try to rate every single league in the world top to bottom. I did my best to identify stronger leagues within a confederation and work to boost their ratings. I did my best to conseptualize any possible scenario that might require a players rating to be modified. All that said, the system isn't perfect and I'm sure there will be a 3rd edition at some point. I only ask that you understand the system entirely before suggesting changes to it.

Suggestions for boosting one league or another will be taken into account always.
 

jsathe

Youth Team
Any chance of French Guiana, Liio? Unless iv'e missed it, its the only one of the non-fifa concacaf members (that someone has made kits for), that hasn't been made yet. Just wondering if you were planning on making it or not...
 

mrliioadin

Senior Squad
jsathe;2345339 said:
Any chance of French Guiana, Liio? Unless iv'e missed it, its the only one of the non-fifa concacaf members (that someone has made kits for), that hasn't been made yet. Just wondering if you were planning on making it or not...

I had Considered it but decided against it because they didn't participate in the Caribbean Cup. I haven't done any searching for a roster yet. I do want to stick to teams that are participating in tournaments but not exclusively. Like I said I just don't want to get toooooooo bogged down doing unaffiliated teams. The ones I previously created are requiring some updates. Doing one or two here and there is a realistic goal since I can do most of the work while I'm at lunch at work.

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I finished the first part of the reattributing process for the Russian National Team. I'm trying to take my time, get to know the players and make good decisions as to their new attributes based on their league, the other internationals, and other defenders in the league.

This is only the Goalkeepers and Defenders... It includes everyone that I can find that should be considered for a START for the national team. The idea is... If a team uses 4 in the back you come up with 8-12 that could in theory start there for various reasons. In the end only 23 players will be chosen for the national team but the others will be reattributed at least on my PC so that should they improve or be called upon for a tournament, they can be edited easily, inserted and the patch made quickly. So, all in all I want to come up with a pool of about 40 players for every team possible that could all be used if injury's, club responsibilities, or anything of that nature occurs.

Here's the probable attributes for Russian players.

Russian Premier League: 94
Suggested Best Player Rating: 73

94 Igor Akinfeev GK
71 Vyacheslav Malafeyev GK
65 Dmitri Borodin GK
67 Vladimir Gaboulov GK

66 Ivan Taranov CB
77 Vadim Yevseyev DF
83 Aleksandr Anyukov RB
81 Aleksei Berezoutski CB
81 Vassili Berezoutski CB
65 Sergei Efimov DF
82 Sergei Ignashevich CB
74 Denis Kolodin DF
76 Roman Shishkin DF

80 Evgeni Aldonin CDM
70 Igor Denisov CAM/ST
79 Yegor Titov CM/CAM
71 Vladislav Radimov RM
78 Marat Izmailov LWM/CAM
88 Alexey Smertin CDM/CM
83 Dmitri Loskov CAM
78 Diniyar Bilyaletdinov CM
77 Viktor Boudianski CM
82 Vladimir Bystrov RM
66 Aleksei Rebko CM
77 Igor Semshov CAM/CM
70 Dmitri Torbinsky CM
82 Yuri Zhirkov LWM
67 Konstantin Zyryanov CDM

82 Andrey Arshavin ST
87 Aleksandr Kerzhakov ST
81 Pavel Pogrebnyak ST
81 Ivan Saenko ST
83 Dmitri Sychev ST


Various exceptions were used. If you have questions or suggestions, speak up I'm all ears.

I am experimenting with ways to patch in all these players whether they are in the game or not. The idea being, you would put the team in the international league, and should you choose to exchange a player here and there, many top DOMESTIC russian players would be available at the touch of a button. I'm thinking this will take a series of roughly three maybe 4 patches.

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I'm thinking the starters would look like this:

GK: Akinfeev
LB: A. Berezoutski
CB: Ignashevich
RB: Anyukov
CDM: Smertin
CDM: Aldonin
LM: Zhirkov
RM: Bystrov
CAM: Loskov
ST: Kerzhakov
ST: Sychev

Bench:

GK: Malafeyev
CB: V. Berezoutski
CAM: Titov
ST: Arshavin
DF: Yevseyev
CM: Izmailov
CM: Bilyaletdinov

Reserves:

GK: Gaboulov
DF: Shishkin
DF: Kolodin
CM: Boudianski
ST: Pogrebnyak
 

mrliioadin

Senior Squad
So this just in... Creation Master won't reload specific face textures. I could have sworn it did... In fact, I think I tested it on a player with a specific face model.

My question, and the reason I posted this seperately... In relation to creating leagues and manager mode seasons for national teams, what do you guys think about at least temporarily NOT having the correct face textures for our stars? I imagine loading each in twice would have provided some other problems with the fifa.fat file size down the line as well... Just need some oppinions here.

Maybe there is something I'm missing but, I just cloned Alexey Smertin and he just has a generic face that's fairly close.
 

jsathe

Youth Team
Well, I took a crack at doing French Guiana myself. I couldn't really find rosters anywhere and according to Elo this team hasn't even played a match in over 2 years. So I used Wikipedia and the National-Football-Teams website. If you are interested, download below.

Please be advised that, because I use different ratings for smaller teams than Liio, the player ratings may be a bit higher than you would find in one of his patches.

Thanks to August for making the Kits and Minikits. I did the flags and logos myself (which is obvious by their rag-tag appearance :S)

As this is the first time i've tried this, if something does not work then please let me know and I will try to fix it.

French Guiana
 

mrliioadin

Senior Squad
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/front/4888527.html

I was wondering what happened to Lester More at the gold cup... there's the answer. It's a shame cause I'm sure he would have had a great international career for the country. I wish we had more details.

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Is there anyone available that might be willing to help me reattribute some of the teams that I made using the old attributes? Russia alone has taken several days as I've been rather busy. If you sign on we'll set aside something like 4 teams for you to do at your pace, using the new system.
 

Ak Maromo

Club Supporter
shame on Lestor More, he was the core of that team during digicel carribbean cup. he wouldve been a difference maker in the panama game.
 

mrliioadin

Senior Squad
Yes it is the full Zimbabwe National Team...

Nazzy, You mind if I post your team on the front page? Also, would you mind if I reattribute it when I do the updates so that it does fit in with the attributes used for the other teams.
 


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