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Laws - PES 4 - PC version
- Thread starter Golden Boy
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Re: Laws - PES 4 - PC version
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U whine about the game so much in every thread, and always in a negative way, that I wonder why you are still posting on these forums, because obviously you are not a fan of the game.
P.S. : before you make your pittyful "ure a retard to say u dont agree" - remark : go do something useful, because unlike what you think gamefora are nót intended to do this. If u have those complaints u stated about 18 to 32 times now, mail KONAMI and leave it alone.
Cheers btw, and a happy newyear !
well i came 2nd in the Dutch pes3 championship last year and won 500euro, not to brag about myself, but to defend against lamers who will say i suck, but I think it wont do much, people will still say i suck, after this post.
anyway i agree with most of the points of the topicstarter, but its kinda ok when playing offline, but i have many times mentioned that this "cheating" also occurs online. Thats a real let down in pes4, I really dont enjoy playing online anymore, because its so crystal clear, it only seem to happen when you are host, maybe Konami implemented this to make up with the lag for the client, either way it still sucks. I(as host) always seem to be in disadvantage and my opponent(client) seems to get the favor in cpu help.
Ohwell nobody will believe it anyway, they are in denial, you might as well give up kingpug.
anyway i agree with most of the points of the topicstarter, but its kinda ok when playing offline, but i have many times mentioned that this "cheating" also occurs online. Thats a real let down in pes4, I really dont enjoy playing online anymore, because its so crystal clear, it only seem to happen when you are host, maybe Konami implemented this to make up with the lag for the client, either way it still sucks. I(as host) always seem to be in disadvantage and my opponent(client) seems to get the favor in cpu help.
Ohwell nobody will believe it anyway, they are in denial, you might as well give up kingpug.
globiboulga
Club Supporter
It's amazing how all PES critic leads to the dual mode reply: 1) train more - you suck or 2) go and play FIFA.
Even if PES is better than FIFA, it has problems and, as a paying customer, I believe that one should be able to voice disappointment/anger/critics/comments without being held on betrayal suspicion.
The denial boys are pitiful in their blind support of Konami, but can they really support 100% a game which has such annoyance as the impossibility to stop a player trying to get a ball going into touchline, ball that has been last touched by the opponent? Impossibility meaning that while in control of the player, there is no button pressing, direction pounding that will prevent the moron to get a touch on the ball and give it back to the CPU.
I have actually stopped playing the game now cause I am bored to death not being able to score more than 1 goals per game because the computer gets bezerk. Tired of the non sanctionned faults and the lack of cards. I made the decision after looking at the stats of my last game.
I shot 14 times at goal - CPU 4
I shot 9 times on target - CPU 1
I made 3 fouls - CPU 10
I got 2 yellow - CPU 2
Score?
1-1
Obvioulsy, a typical game. The CPU goal - typical as well - could have been broacasted on the funiest home video show. A late triple contact, ball bouncing on his players, foul not sanctionned on my defender, goalkeeper looks at the ball slowly getting in kind of goal.
And no, that's not just a question of training. That's the game.
"Your best striker will never outrun a CPU defender." That should be the game's moto.
Even if PES is better than FIFA, it has problems and, as a paying customer, I believe that one should be able to voice disappointment/anger/critics/comments without being held on betrayal suspicion.
The denial boys are pitiful in their blind support of Konami, but can they really support 100% a game which has such annoyance as the impossibility to stop a player trying to get a ball going into touchline, ball that has been last touched by the opponent? Impossibility meaning that while in control of the player, there is no button pressing, direction pounding that will prevent the moron to get a touch on the ball and give it back to the CPU.
I have actually stopped playing the game now cause I am bored to death not being able to score more than 1 goals per game because the computer gets bezerk. Tired of the non sanctionned faults and the lack of cards. I made the decision after looking at the stats of my last game.
I shot 14 times at goal - CPU 4
I shot 9 times on target - CPU 1
I made 3 fouls - CPU 10
I got 2 yellow - CPU 2
Score?
1-1
Obvioulsy, a typical game. The CPU goal - typical as well - could have been broacasted on the funiest home video show. A late triple contact, ball bouncing on his players, foul not sanctionned on my defender, goalkeeper looks at the ball slowly getting in kind of goal.
And no, that's not just a question of training. That's the game.
"Your best striker will never outrun a CPU defender." That should be the game's moto.
twistedratt
Club Supporter
First off, these aren't Laws they are probabilities. Laws are something that is either yes or no. If you go 36 in a 35 zone your speeding, not only 85% of the time, ALL of the time. And thats what game engines are all about possibilities.
If you try to run past a defender you dont fall down each and every time, that would be a law. These percentages dont really boil down to a whole lot. I mean its nice and all to see the probabilities of what the CPU will do in a certain situation but does that mean you play the game differently based on that? When will the 15% chance come that your cross will fall to your player or the loose ball bounces to your guy? If you can predict that then there is no reason to play the game then is there? But since you cant keep playing.
And since when do teams win all the crosses or headers or through balls anyways? How many goals do your teams need to score for you to consider the game playing correct? If your dominating as much as you say you are and still complaining about CPU ripping you off you prolly wont ever be happy with improvements made to PES in the future.
Yes there are issues with gameplay in this game. The home field advantage is a real issue. But this game doesnt have any game breaking bugs in it at least none that I have seen yet. Not like MVP Baseball that had a legit game busting bug in it.
And if your complaining because you dominated the particular match you were playing and still lost there are many many examples of real sports where this can happen. One only has to look to the recent Match between Chelsea and Liverpool to see that fact.
If you try to run past a defender you dont fall down each and every time, that would be a law. These percentages dont really boil down to a whole lot. I mean its nice and all to see the probabilities of what the CPU will do in a certain situation but does that mean you play the game differently based on that? When will the 15% chance come that your cross will fall to your player or the loose ball bounces to your guy? If you can predict that then there is no reason to play the game then is there? But since you cant keep playing.
And since when do teams win all the crosses or headers or through balls anyways? How many goals do your teams need to score for you to consider the game playing correct? If your dominating as much as you say you are and still complaining about CPU ripping you off you prolly wont ever be happy with improvements made to PES in the future.
Yes there are issues with gameplay in this game. The home field advantage is a real issue. But this game doesnt have any game breaking bugs in it at least none that I have seen yet. Not like MVP Baseball that had a legit game busting bug in it.
And if your complaining because you dominated the particular match you were playing and still lost there are many many examples of real sports where this can happen. One only has to look to the recent Match between Chelsea and Liverpool to see that fact.
MadAZNFootballe
Youth Team
id rather take a challenge with cpu cheating than repeatedly have no challenge owning the CPU 9-0...thats for FIFA players
I don't understand how people can say they always win 1-0 or the CPU always cheats...they must be playing a different game to me then.
If I am playing ML or a cup (on 5 or 6 * ) I never come across myself winning 1-0 all the time or having the CPU cheat all the time.
In my current ML season I won 16 games in a row with Man U and scores varies from 1-0 to 5-2 to 3-0...infact as in real life...different score lines for most matches occur.
That streak doesnt come from luck but from good tactics and a good defence...
I dunno...I must be able to curve the CPU cheating and beat those %'s mentioned early in the post
If I am playing ML or a cup (on 5 or 6 * ) I never come across myself winning 1-0 all the time or having the CPU cheat all the time.
In my current ML season I won 16 games in a row with Man U and scores varies from 1-0 to 5-2 to 3-0...infact as in real life...different score lines for most matches occur.
That streak doesnt come from luck but from good tactics and a good defence...
I dunno...I must be able to curve the CPU cheating and beat those %'s mentioned early in the post
Originally posted by kingpug
Nevermind
Works for me when I copy it and paste into browser..
Dude it DON'T WORK!!!
I've been trying to tell that to you since a few pages back. Maybe it works for you cos you have an account but it don't work for the rest of the world.Who's in denial ?
Originally posted by Snowy
Dude it DON'T WORK!!!
Who's in denial ?
Never mind he got redcarded cause he was acting like a pr!ck yesterday!
Understand that guys.A perfect AI will never be made.I recommend you to stop playing against the CPU.Go play on a lan or Online.This game designed for playing against real human opponents.From now on big companies will work that way.Online gaming is the future.Only playing against a real opponent you can make yourself better.
Umm...good idea but there's just one teeeeeeny weeeeeeny problem. In the online world, there are guys there with similar mentality. They might become so good and get 1st orrrrr 2ND in some tournament or other and then from then on it becomes unbearable, unfathomable and unthinkable that they should ever lose a single game against any human opponents. It doesn't matter if they trash the same guy 99 times and lost the final 100th game. That game will be one where the AI 'helped' or 'planned' the results in advance to favour the other guy. Most people will take the loss with a pinch of salt whilst to some it'll be the end of the world and they'll have to come here and let off some steeeeeeeam.
