Canales is not a major force anywhere. He's an overhyped wonderkid. The point about wonderkids is that most of them never reach their potential. Every year Spain has a bunch of players who look like they'´ll become world-class and some of them do, but most of them don't. We'll talk about Canales and Bojan when they really achieve something. I hate the fact that when a young kid scores a goal he's immediately one to watch. Same **** happened with Walcott and Rooney, although Rooney was actually worth the hype.
England has very few starlets like that, so no, I can't name a few. My point about the differences between Spanish and English training is that Spain has more talented wonderkids, but England has more hard-working adults. Those talented young Spaniards fizzle out, but the English players who had discipline instilled in them become great talents. Admittedly, the best players will always be talented for the get-go, but guys Lampard or Gerrard were never so overhyped, and their best quality is their hard-work. I remember Barton bragging about waking up at 6 am to do his running and Lamps said he and Stevie G had been waking up at 5 am every day since they were 14.
If you took out the very best players from every league, I think England would beat Spain easily, and they can/ beat them with them, too. No Lampard? You've got Bullard, Davies, Jenas, etc. These are good, not outstanding players, who are very well-rounded. Most of the Spanish side is made up of people who were wonderkids and made the step-up. Like I said, it takes one generation to have more flops than usual and England will overtake Spain. Personally, I think Spanish players peak earlier than English. Looking at the two squads' recent call-ups, Spain has many under-25s, and England has quite a few 30+'s.
I'm not saying either is bad or good. But, I suppose the preference is whether you'd rather have 20 fantastic players and 80 crappy players or 10 fantastic players and 90 average players, to be extremely 'hyperbolic'. Basically, a typical Spanish player will be technically sound and be a good player until his late 20's, and then quickly fade away. An english players will not be as good at first,. but will keep improving until and start fading away in his early 30's. Longer shelf-life, in a way.
So yes, Spain has a lot of young talent, England has more dependable players, IMO. And I LOVE the diversity in England. I remember that when I had Fifa 2003, I would sell all the Spanish, English, French, Italian and German players and make the best possible squads using the less-represented nationalities. I like seeing all those players from all sorts of places in one league. Spain defenitely has a greater emphasis on home-grown (which I think has something to do with the intrinsic racism in the culture), but I wouldn't say that's better. More competition makes the league better, and I find the notion that the Spanish league has the best players debatable. Keep Ronaldo, Messi, Kaka, etc.
I think we had this debate before, in one of the award-threads.
EDIT: Buti, for ****'s sake. Messi doesn't hit his face because he just can't. Raising your elbow just 10 cm means moving your arm akwardly, not to mention that it would require him to WANT and WILLFULLY hit the Sevilla player in the face, which he doesn't want. If the Sevilla player was shorter, or stooped like the Malaga player was, he could have accidentally hit him in the face. But he didn't. Ronaldo didnn't intended to hit him in the face, why would he? The ref is in his line of sight, he has the ball, it is all in his favor, and as he tries to cut loose, he accidentally hits him in the face. And the physical aspects of the incident have everything to do with it.
My point was that you're only demonising Ronaldo because he is Ronaldo. Just like you're making Messi out to be an angel because he's Messi. It's always been clear that you're a crest before logic sort of person, but you're just being ridiculous.
They are very similar acts with different consecuences. Yes, it shouldn't be subjective, it is very obvious, you're just mistaken. Can't believe you actually think you're being objective here.
RE-EDIT: Forgot the rest of Sevillista's post. Don't know what you mean as destructive football, care to explain? Anyway, I find back-and-forth footie, end-to-end chances very entertaining, and the physical prowess of English players makes that possible. Only matches I´ve een in which I was actually entertained for 20 straight matches were Valencia - MAdrid and Valencia - Barca, because, credit to them, they kept attacking and there was chance after chance. That happens at all levels in England, barring when teams park the bus, in which case it's more like a regular Barca match, which is boring IMO.
I don't rate Almeria, personally, or Malaga. But, whatever.
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