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Is Winning Eleven 9 the game for me?

Brondbyfan

Senior Squad
Hello all. I have never purchased a Winning Eleven game because I have a Gamecube and until now I have not owned a PC with the horsepower to run much of anything. As a result I haven't played anything other than FIFA WC 2002 and 2003-2006. While I enjoy those games and need my football fix, with a monster new machine I'm looking to try out Winning Eleven. But before I buy the game and a gamepad, I wanted to vent some of my frustrations with FIFA 2006 and see if Winning Eleven 9 answers these problems:

1. Transfer market: FIFA 2006's transfer market is laughable in many ways. Awesome new players are generated constantly, particularly in goal. As a result it's easy to build a side with all players in the 90 skills rating under the age of 25. Great players don't cost much more than average players. Wayne Rooney and Ronaldinho and the like are always ending up in the Bundesliga 2. Teams don't replace retired players well: for some reason Ajax now has a first choice keeper rated 49. Players are idiots in the contract negotiations. They will accept way below their fair wages, and will also never go looking for first team football. For me, building a team to call your own is the best part of sports games. So I'm hoping WE9 meets these:
- Realistic value for players, i.e., Wayne Rooney goes for a hell of a lot more than your average forward.
- Players make realistic moves and demands, i.e., Ronaldinho does not go to Crystal Palace.
- Clubs don't sell their best players for no reason and replace them with ****.
- Young players must be nurtured and trained, as opposed to a 99 rated CAM coming out of nowhere.

2. AI: Even on World Class I'm routinely destroying the CPU by 4 goals or more. The problem is that FIFA 06 only makes the game harder by making the CPU keeper better, your keeper dumber, and making every CPU player capable of routine 30 yard goals. Their defense dithers in the box, kicks it out for no reason, plays incredibly dangerous backpasses, and frequently miss sliding challenges leaving you one on one with the keeper. Their attackers inexplicably cut back when clean through on goal. Your own players are better but not by much. The full backs never cover the wings and marking in the center often leaves something to be desired. The CPU manager is brain-dead, doesn't makes subs except in the case of injury, and doesn't adjust after one of their players has been sent off.

3. Keepers. Your keeper can't be injured, booked, or sent off. The CPU keeper is glued to his line. Your keeper can't get into the box on last-minute corners. Nor can you put an outfield player in goal, or play your keeper as an outfield player (come on, if Man City isn't playing David James as a center forward than the game is not realistic!).

4. PK and free-kick systems are deficient. You can't select the kick taker at the time of the set piece.

I know I am asking a lot of questions here, but I want to make sure I'm getting the right game. If I do decide to get it, what game pad would you recommend? Thanks a lot for all your help!
 

yoyo913

Team Captain
1. The Winning eleven transfer system isn't the greatest but it sound's better than fifa, you have to nurture players and they get better with experience and time. WE9 however isn't about transfers its about how great the gameplay is, just play with any team and you will enojoy yourself!

2. As a new player it takes a while to get used to it, so it will be hard for you even on 2 stars (5 star is hardest). Then you will progress and become better. The game is challanging, and you feel great when you score a goal. I consider myself a pro, I played variations of this game alot for a few years and still enojoy myself on 5 stars winning most of the time but sometiems i tie and lose.

3. The keeper can get a card and get injured but it is rare. In the extra time if you are down a goal they usually come up at corner kicks. They are pretty realistic and it might seem hard at first to score a goal on them.

4. The pk system is simple and the FK system is great in my opinion, i score about 1/4 of the time when i'm close on net. Its straight forward, and you get better at it with time.


LASTLY:

THIS GAME IS AMAZING COMPARED TO FIFA, the flow of the game is overwhelming, you will not regret it!! Making passes, taking shoots, running with the ball all feel great with this game.
 

Y2K

Senior Squad
Winning Eleven 6 FE was released for the Gamecube before.
[Edit]And oh yeah for your last question get the PS2 controller. It was made for WE.
 

O'neill

Reserve Team
Pula said:
.... the flow of the game is overwhelming, you will not regret it!! Making passes, taking shoots, running with the ball all feel great with this game.


Well I disagree. I've sacked Fifa (till the next one) and am playing PES5 and though there are many things over FIFA, the flow of the game isnt one.
Ths players are constant stop dead, wait for new instructions or scripting, move, stop dead. It doesnt flow, its not like football either. Fifa for all its faults flows better.

PS. I know loads of people will complain about my views and most of the complaints will be about trashing FIFA rather than reasoned replys. I'm not interested, I wont respond.
 

plus4s

Youth Team
Pro 5 is the only football fix you will need, well until pro 6 comes out. You can actually play football and feel the high's and low's of the great game. As for controllers get the ps2 adapter from play.com for about £7 and a ps2 controller and you will be well away. :rockman:
 

TristanAbbott7

Starting XI
Basically, Winning Eleven/PES Master League is pathetic compared to the FIFA Career Mode but gameplay wise, FIFA falls short. It depends what you're looking for. If you don't mind endless patching then WE/PES is the best choice but if you just want to pick up and play or actually have a realistic league structure then stick with FIFA, especially given FIFA 07 will be out long before the world outside of Asia (and those of us without modded PS2s) sees any kind of incarnation of WE10.
 


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