****ing analog sticks

[AnaMorph0s|s]

50% of the times I use the analog stick to hit a long pass (L1+RAS thing) the player will just turn and make some horrible pass in the opposite direction of where I am facing.

Anyone else noticed this? Is it just me, or is it my controller or what the ****, this is annoying as hell.

And why does this board censor stuff?

 

[DaveC]

Yep I get this too, which is why I gave up and went back to the traditional method. I also get REALLY annoyed when the power bar just maxed out when making a pass and the player blasted the ball into row Z.

I'm glad I wasn't the only one having these problems.

 

[ps2]

Yeah it does happen but not 50% of the times(at least to me). It happened in PES

Konami really need to fix the R1+LAS pass...

 

[Han]

I am getting confused now: Anamorphosis talks about L1+RAS and PS2 about R1+RAS ?!?

I got it before with L1+RAS but thought it was a mix-up of my own coordination

 

[the_man]

There is a reason it does this. The stick works okay, not perfect but okay...you have to learn how to work with it.

This happened to me the first few times I started using analog to pass. The thing I was doing was I was holding on to the stick too long. That is, I push it out to the direction I want to for power but then, I pull the stick back to end the power bar. Well when you pull the stick back you pull it straight into the opposite direction...the bar is full, then the games thinks you want to hit in the opposite direction (the one it sees last). What you are supposed to do is, tilt the stick where you want it to go, when you are done with it, release the stick (gently) and watch the ball fly to where you put it. Remember it is on a spring mechanism, it will go back to it's original position without your help.

Try it in training first. A lot of people try it in games expecting big things to happen...in a game you are under pressure, the defence is slicing at your feet...in training you can practice doing it without pressure. When you are good, then you can do stuff in a game.

 

[Neutral LFC]

What the_man said. My friend has been practicing using the analog for long passes and last night he was busting out all the fancy cross-field passes with Rivaldo. Bastard.

I'll have to practice that more myself, but personally I don't think I could use the analog to control the players - I'm too used to the d-pad it would be like trying to eat tomato soup with a fork.

 

[the_man]

Originally posted by Neutral LFC
I'll have to practice that more myself, but personally I don't think I could use the analog to control the players - I'm too used to the d-pad it would be like trying to eat tomato soup with a fork.

Yeah, it's not for everyone. I only say give it a fair shot.

 

[ps2]

Originally posted by Han
I am getting confused now: Anamorphosis talks about L1+RAS and PS2 about R1+RAS ?!?

I got it before with L1+RAS but thought it was a mix-up of my own coordination

Sorry Han i meant R1

the_man is right, BUT sometimes it will happen even if u do all he said!
Why? Cause sometimes the player won't respond immediatly.It's like when u receive a pass and u want to turn immediatly and pass back.Instead ur player just keeps on running and makes a back hill pass(that will get intercepted most of the times ).
Anyway, this doesn't happen to much in we6(to me at least). I remember that in PES, this L1+RAS could happen 2 or 3 times in a game(in PES i only use L1+RAS to pass high)

 

[Han]

Originally posted by ps2


Sorry Han i meant R1

No, you meant L1

...sometimes the player won't respond immediatly.It's like when u receive a pass and u want to turn immediatly and pass back.

I think this is how it happened to me!

 

[ps2]

Originally posted by Han


No, you meant L1



I think this is how it happened to me!

Yeah i meant L1.Damn i have to read my post before i actually post them!

 

[Chelsea2001]

Re: ****ing analog sticks

Originally posted by AnaMorph0s|s
50% of the times I use the analog stick to hit a long pass (L1+RAS thing) the player will just turn and make some horrible pass in the opposite direction of where I am facing.

Anyone else noticed this? Is it just me, or is it my controller or what the ****, this is annoying as hell.

And why does this board censor stuff?

Yes i have had this too

 

[AnaMorph0s|s]

The thing is though, if you're to execute a fast long pass, which often is the case, you will have to move the analog stick a lot faster making your hand automatically stick to it for a bit longer than necessary. But I guess it's like you all say, as in every other aspect of this game, it takes practise to become skilled.

 

[ps2]

Originally posted by AnaMorph0s|s
But I guess it's like you all say, as in every other aspect of this game, it takes practise to become skilled.

You're right about that! It took me a while to get used to this L1+RAS in PES( like a couple of weeks). Now i use it with my eyes closed!

 

[DryHeat]

Problem

The only problem with analogue sticks is that you cannot pass, head, run in 360 degrees. You can only do these in 8 directions.

This makes passing a nightmare if you want to pass to a player who is next to another one of your players.

How many of you have problems in passing with headers. The computer can pass to any player anywhere on the pitch with there head, yet there is almost no control of headers when I do it. There is no control on heigth and power of the header.

 

[the_man]

err, 16 directions.

If you are having trouble with the stick and passing, do the training drill that requires you to use the RAS to pass the ball around.

I use the stick for two game situations. Situation 1, when i want to hit an accurate pass to a player in the air. Situation 2, when I want to hit a pass on the ground to a player quite far and I know using X will hit it to the wrong player.

If you are doing short passes, you are better off using the X to pass. I think Konami should make the X button an analog pass. And let us keep the direction of the pass with the LAS or Dpad (whatever rubs your budda).

 

[ps2]

Re: Problem

Originally posted by DryHeat
The only problem with analogue sticks is that you cannot pass, head, run in 360 degrees. You can only do these in 8 directions.

This makes passing a nightmare if you want to pass to a player who is next to another one of your players.

How many of you have problems in passing with headers. The computer can pass to any player anywhere on the pitch with there head, yet there is almost no control of headers when I do it. There is no control on heigth and power of the header.

As the_man said u can pass in 26 direction both with RAS+L1 and RAS. And compared with PES, passing with RAS(ground passes) is much crispier in we6, so i hope that the problems with L1+RAS will be solved in PES2(fingers crossed).

About heading there are some things that u can do to make it better(although i too think that there should be more control):

- U can move ur player using R2;

- U can time the jump;

- And remember that the contoller is analog so it will respond to pressure: if u press it harder the player will jump higher.

When u master all this u will place headers pretty much where u want.
Just to give one example:

In corners, i usually cross to my CB cause is tall. But instead of just waiting, what i do is(while the ball is in the air), move my player back(using R2) and then i start running to the ball and antecipate the defender; the header is normally powerfull cause i do it on the run. 75% of the times i get a goal.

 

[Han]

Re: Re: Problem

Originally posted by ps2



- And remember that the contoller is analog so it will respond to pressure: if u press it harder the player will jump higher.

?? Are you sure about this? So you says pressing [] to clear the ball goes better when you press square harder?

 

[ps2]

I don't know about clearing the ball(although it makes sense) but i do know that if i want a powerfull shot i'll press harder. And i think that the same goes with headers, although the position of the ball is also important.

 

[Han]

Maybe you release the button slightly later when you press harder... maybe that causes to jump higher... curious what others think of this: Very interesting

 

[ps2]

I went to the training pitch yesterday, and it seemed that the players would respond to the the pressure, although, once again, i must say that the positioning is very important ín the way ur player will jump. Still, in the same situation if i pressed harder my jumped higher and more determined. If i tapped the button slightly then he just do that little jump with his legs together...