If you don't think Ronaldo's the best striker

[XJaymz]

So he is averaging almost a goal a game.

Vieri is averaging more than that, and is on track to break the all time Serie A record for goals in a season. Yet no one votes Vieri as FIFA player of the year. No one tries to call him the worlds best striker.

Is Ronaldo bloody good, yes. But it seems all he has to achive is what any other top striker does, and he automaticly gets called the worlds best.

Ther are other players around in Europe who are doing exactly what Ronaldo do, some even better (though not many), but its always Ronaldo who gets all the praise.

 

[-William-]

Originally posted by antithesis
Raul = Owen.

Umm..No
Raúl is not like Owen in my opinion..Hes 2 times better

 

[Hamilton]

If your complaining vieri doesn't get enough attention, then how about makaay or beattie? How often do you hear of Nonda or Kovacevic? They are all great finishers with lots of talent no doubt, but the reason why I like Ronaldo more, is because he is more enjoyable to watch.... He has the potential to just burn defenders like nothing, and while vieri can score 3 headers or tap-ins in a game, I would take one of Ronaldo's run's from midfield over that any day :P I watch the game because it is enjoyable to watch, and after saying that some players are simply more enjoyable to watch.

 

[MuRcY[b]]

internazional: vieri is a top striker when on form but you cant compare him with ronaldo .. ronaldo is a league above mate .. i've always suported him after i fell in love with him in 97 (when i was 11 years old) & its really nice to see him doing those shimmy's again

anyone in here who is badmouthing him : it doesnt matter because at the end of the day, HE is the one playing for the best club side in the world & HE is the one making his $$$

 

[KingPaulV]

I think most people are missing the point..........Ronaldo was not in top form at the world cup.........Ronaldo is not in top form now and still the man strikes at least a little chill on opposing defenses, like someone said, when he gets to be 100%, baring any misfortune that could happen by late this season he will be THE best striker in the world hands down......its amazing he has 13 goals (Maakay has 19) and he's at about 65 -70% and out of shape.

Now, to compare Raul and Ronaldo is an injustice, both tactically and Real Madrid-wise they are completelly different players, you just cannot compare them.........Raul is an opportunistic striker, he has that uncanny ability to smell goals before they happen and he pounces and seldom misses chances he's like a lion always around, stalking; and of course he the soul of Real Madrid.......then Ronaldo is a much more explosive player, he can be off most of a game but suddenly he has these crazed burst of brilliance that leave us all dumbfounded, usually those bursts land him goals.....

 

[KingPaulV]

uh before it leaves my mind..........an annecdote of why Ronaldo is so great, picture this and draw your own conclusions:


-It is the final game of the Copa America 1997 in Bolivia. More than 50,000 crazed Bolivians have packed the Fernando Siles to watch their National team battle Brazil for the title of Champions of the Americas. The game is played at more than 2,500 meters above sea level in La Paz, the highest stadium in the world and one where Bolivia has lost only five times since the association entered FIFA in the mid thirties......


The game is a constant back and forth Battle, but Brazil strikes first, early in the game, the crowd quiets, but then before the break, after a masterful freekick Bolivia has tied the score. During the halftime break the stadium is said to be so loud that Zagalo had to scream his instructions to the Brazilians in the lockeroom....

Second half starts and the game its deadlocked. Ronaldo, Brazil's star has been shut out by two defenders on man to man marking most of the game.............then at around the 74th minute with the Brazilians fading from a lack of oxigen and Bolivia confident towards extra time, Ronaldo takes the ball around midfield....quick one two before he's off and running between two defenders, he goes by one man before he sends a bullet towards the top right corner that sails past the bolivian Keeper....


Only five minutes later, Ronaldo takes off in another great run and he's thru and with space, he eludes two, then takes the ball towards the middle of the box and sinks a low shot just wide enough to scape Trucco's hands..........Brazil are the new champions of America!!!!!!!!!!!


Ronaldo at his best!!!

 

[MuRcY[b]]

BooTiFuL!

 

[Digitarius]

To say that Raul = Owen is the funniest comparison I've ever heard.

Raul is a class player. You might think that Ronaldo is better than him, which some people agree (I disagree, because I think they're different and difficult to compare) but Raul is miles ahead of Owen.

 

[MuRcY[b]]

lol thats funny .. who compared Raul with owen? owen is sooooo overrated it makes me sick

 

[antithesis]

Originally posted by MuRcY
lol thats funny .. who compared Raul with owen?

That's what I am asking, because I didn't.

I wrote:
Raul = Owen.

Some people will call them great, others will say "huh!"


Which means exactly what it says. Some people think they are great players, and some think they are extremely over-rated.

Obviously Digi and you think Owen is an "huh?"

Of course if you compared both their international and domestic records it might make both of you look silly.
I have no opinion because I think they are both "huhs?"

Some players just fit perfectly in a particular team.

 

[Jiffy]

Owen out of form, yes, overrated, no.

Why people don't respect the Premiership as a tough league is beyond me. Man United regularly beat Seria A sides in Europe and United aren't the best team in the Premiership.

La Liga is the best league in the world, anyone who scores goals there is proper quality, Tristan, Raul, Ronaldo.

Strange that the Spanish national team is such an underachiever but thats for another thread

 

[TottiNZidaneR#1]

Originally posted by Jiffy
Owen out of form, yes, overrated, no.

Why people don't respect the Premiership as a tough league is beyond me. Man United regularly beat Seria A sides in Europe and United aren't the best team in the Premiership.

La Liga is the best league in the world, anyone who scores goals there is proper quality, Tristan, Raul, Ronaldo.

Strange that the Spanish national team is such an underachiever but thats for another thread

Underachiever?? oh u mean when they got cheated out of the world cup cuz if that damn ref whould have been fair then we whould not have seen Brazil as chapionships, Spain whould have won they have a great squad and it was all the refs falut.

As for Ronaldo yes he is coming back, hes form is coming togeather and i can't wait to see how he does next year.

 

[Dagoods]

raul has the scent to score goals, and he does score them. there is a reason he leads the spanish national team with goals, and he still has many good years left in him.

PELE- is the all-time scoring leader for Brazil, Romario second, Zico 3rd and RONALDO comes in 4th (Only one goal away from tying ZICO)...

Who did RAUL surpass??? a NOBODY by the name of Butragueño!

Butraguelño is not in the same league as the 4 Brazilian players above!!!


RONALDO at 70% won the World Cup...he is only 26, can you imagine just how many more Ballon D' Oros will he win? how many more FIFA Player of the years, Copa Americas, Confederation Cups, liguas, CL's, Intercontinentals, and WORLD CUPS will he win??? JUST how many more??? IMO plenty MORE...

At the end Of RONALDO'S career he will be (actually he already is the winniest soccer player in history) (individually wise)!!! The fact is that when RONALDO retires...he will be named the FIFTH KING OF SOCCER...along side with Di Stefano, Pele, Cruyff, and Maradona. RONALDO is that DAMN GOOD FOR SURE!!!

 

[ffours]

I thought Raul passed Hierro?! Who BTW, is a legend of the game.

Yes Owen is over-rated, without his pace he is Nothing more than average, and even with his pace, he seems very average.

The difference between Vieri and Raul, or Ronaldo for that matter is, Vieri is one of those guys who is there at the right time. I believe hes yet to score a goal in CL in 5 years or is it 6?! Vieri and Inzaghi have huge totals because all they need is for their foot to touch the ball. Yet when they celebrate they just acted if they scored a goal of the calibre of Raul against Valencia in the CL final.

Ronaldo is a great player, theres no doubting it, hes an artist. But Raul plays different positions, hes the ultimate team leader, the great team player. Hes often the Deep Forward, who's forced to hold up the ball, but he does it like it aint no thang

 

[Digitarius]

Raul, for me, is sheer class. He sometimes fail to produce when you expect him to, which is why I think a lot of people don't think much of him.

Owen is overrated. He has genuine pace but other than that his other attributes are only slightly above average. He does score a lot of goals but then it's mainly his pace that gets him away into those chances for him to score. If he loses his pace with age he might struggle to hit the same sort of ratio as he does now.

 

[SB9Dragon]

I'm a die hard INter fan (as u can probably tell) but I don't see Vieri as the World's best striker, though I think Ronaldo is a better loan striker than Vieri anyday. But IMO the best striker on earth is Thierry Henry, he has the touches, the dribbling, the passes, the shot, and definately the style, no one comes close 2 him, he is just so good in so many different striker things unlike Ronaldo and Vieri.... I would want to sign him immediately if I was in charge of Inter, though over Arsenal's dead body

 

[antithesis]

anybody's for sale.
How much money ya got?

 

[Frostwolf]

1780 million punds mininum. plus 500000 pounds per week as compensation paid directly to the club =)

 

[John_Arne_Riise]

Originally posted by Dagoods
RONALDO at 70% won the World Cup...he is only 26, can you imagine just how many more Ballon D' Oros will he win?

I just want to ask you, do you think Ronaldo was a worthy winner of the Ballon D'or last year? I know he is a class striker, i know he had a good World Cup. But seriously, i believe Michael Ballack would of been a more worthy winner.

Maybe if Leverkusen had of won 1 or 2 of the things they were in contention for, he probably would of.

 

[finger]

As any number of people have said, Ronaldo won the euro/fifa player of the year ONLY because of the WC.

Ballack on the otherhand had a good WC, except for the final, and a brilliant club season, he is the more deserving, I mean Kahn had an average club season, and zidane had a good goal at the end of the season, but the award goes to one who plays supremely for BOTH club and country, not one or the other.