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Goverment is behind 9/11
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Spurs4Life
Starting XI
king said:
I'll repeat what I said previously, It could be ONE incentive, one reason, there are many other reasons why the government might do something like that. Like the narrator said at the end of the documentary, the government are ready and willing to do whatever it takes to have a stranglehold on the country., whatever the cost. There is your defining reason.
V
Virgo
Guest
king said:
does this come out of their bank account or the country's bank account?
think a bit...
V
Virgo
Guest
king said:
what I meant was:
construction and war equals contracts to weapon manufacturing /construction companies, who can reward the individuals that actually get them the contracts. It's called corruption and it's fairly common, and it's basically it's a giant wheel of butt buddies living at the expense of the state funds.
If you can't understand the concept here you're the living proof of how whoever is behind this, managed to pull it off.
The_Knight
Senior Squad
7 out of 8 black boxes were BURNT beyond repair, while a saudi passport flew from inside a burning jet and a blown out building to a tree in the nieghbourhood...!!
I was setting my mind on saying "what a load of crap" before watching the movie... but there is an amazing amount of unexpected footage in it, I can't say it.
The amount of misinformation in 9/11 is incredible... and how the government was ok with it, is also bizzare. It's as if everybody is 'happy' of the way it turned out. Well whoever, and I still don't believe it was Bin Laden, an outcast with an M-16 living in tent, did bring down the 2 towers in NY, well it won't change anything now.
It's year 2006, 2 countries have been invaded. The victims are forgotten, and few wud like to speak about it. And these 'few' people are the ones who won't make a difference at all, like Alex Jones.
I mean I remember seeing footage of Usama Bin Laden after the attack by ONLY 5 hours on the CNN... and the woman kept saying how he's "most probably" the one who did it. 5 hours... that's before any kind of investigation has begun.
And the hillarious "proof" tape that even I cudn't understand its Arabic, was found AFTER the invasion of Afganistan had begun. And it was the worst Video quality I had ever seen... I mean my cell phone's videos are MUCH MUCH clearer than that. Talk about a video done by a terrorist who supposibly brought down the twin towers.. a tape where he was 'explaining' how he brought the 2 towers down, THEN happened to leave it behind. Like the guy in the movie said, "WHO WRITES THIS STUFF?"
Anyway, the only ones who talk about it are the ones who won't change anything. So yes the movie was REALLY interesting... but give it 2 weeks and it will be forgotten. Best example, Farenheit 9/11... weeks later, Bush is re-elected. The people who make a difference in the sequence of events, are the ones who matter. Not the audience.
My father is an Engineering consultant, and a Professor of Engineering in at least 3 Universities in North America and 4 in Europe. He was watching the two towers collapsing in disbelief on TV with me in the living room. And he kept explaining to us how it was impossible for the towers to fall because of the "heat-melt-weight" theory... And how the towers were designed as a "tube" which makes it impossible to fall just like that.... MANY THINGS didn't make sense... but as I said, it didn't matter as long as it was convenient to the "people" and in the decision-makers' best interest.
It was a psychological attack on the American people... I do believe that, whoever it was who executed it.
I was setting my mind on saying "what a load of crap" before watching the movie... but there is an amazing amount of unexpected footage in it, I can't say it.
The amount of misinformation in 9/11 is incredible... and how the government was ok with it, is also bizzare. It's as if everybody is 'happy' of the way it turned out. Well whoever, and I still don't believe it was Bin Laden, an outcast with an M-16 living in tent, did bring down the 2 towers in NY, well it won't change anything now.
It's year 2006, 2 countries have been invaded. The victims are forgotten, and few wud like to speak about it. And these 'few' people are the ones who won't make a difference at all, like Alex Jones.
I mean I remember seeing footage of Usama Bin Laden after the attack by ONLY 5 hours on the CNN... and the woman kept saying how he's "most probably" the one who did it. 5 hours... that's before any kind of investigation has begun.
And the hillarious "proof" tape that even I cudn't understand its Arabic, was found AFTER the invasion of Afganistan had begun. And it was the worst Video quality I had ever seen... I mean my cell phone's videos are MUCH MUCH clearer than that. Talk about a video done by a terrorist who supposibly brought down the twin towers.. a tape where he was 'explaining' how he brought the 2 towers down, THEN happened to leave it behind. Like the guy in the movie said, "WHO WRITES THIS STUFF?"
Anyway, the only ones who talk about it are the ones who won't change anything. So yes the movie was REALLY interesting... but give it 2 weeks and it will be forgotten. Best example, Farenheit 9/11... weeks later, Bush is re-elected. The people who make a difference in the sequence of events, are the ones who matter. Not the audience.
My father is an Engineering consultant, and a Professor of Engineering in at least 3 Universities in North America and 4 in Europe. He was watching the two towers collapsing in disbelief on TV with me in the living room. And he kept explaining to us how it was impossible for the towers to fall because of the "heat-melt-weight" theory... And how the towers were designed as a "tube" which makes it impossible to fall just like that.... MANY THINGS didn't make sense... but as I said, it didn't matter as long as it was convenient to the "people" and in the decision-makers' best interest.
It was a psychological attack on the American people... I do believe that, whoever it was who executed it.
ShiftyPowers
Make America Great Again
king said:Thank U for explaning it
basically i was saying that they didn't do all this mess for oil.
Still need it spelled out don't you.
Those "contracts" illuded to would include the no bid contracts given to Halliburton and others with regards to the IRAQI OIL FIELDS.
And I'm not saying that's the case, but that's how the theory goes.
itsbeenpickedup
Youth Team
I can't see them thinking that launching a serious terrorist attack on their own country is an acceptable idea just because they wanted a war in the middle east.Spurs4Life said:
But even if they did they could just as easily not crashed the planes into the buildings and shot them down or crashed them into somewhere smaller and ****tier and still had a decent enough excuse. What I am saying is they hardly needed to completely take down both towers to launch a war on terrorism.
Bullshit. Utter bullshit.
People will believe it because everyone loves a conspiracy. People like to believe that there may be something different and contraversial behind things. With everything if you dig deep enough you'll find something that doesn't sound right. How many of you honestly would have sat and watched an hour long program on what a tragic accident it was? None. When I saw how long it was my intial thought were 'I'm fucked if I'm watching all that', yet sure enough I did because conspiracy theories are interesting.
In my opinion, these constant discussions and conspiracies about 9/11 are quite disrespectful to all those involved. These poor people are being turned into a form of entertainment rather than being allowed to rest in peace.
As a final point, I would think that anyone who followed any form of logical thought would realise that, if this was all a Government operation, the number of people and resources involved would be immense. There would be no way that all these years down the line no one would have come out and called foul.
People will believe it because everyone loves a conspiracy. People like to believe that there may be something different and contraversial behind things. With everything if you dig deep enough you'll find something that doesn't sound right. How many of you honestly would have sat and watched an hour long program on what a tragic accident it was? None. When I saw how long it was my intial thought were 'I'm fucked if I'm watching all that', yet sure enough I did because conspiracy theories are interesting.
In my opinion, these constant discussions and conspiracies about 9/11 are quite disrespectful to all those involved. These poor people are being turned into a form of entertainment rather than being allowed to rest in peace.
As a final point, I would think that anyone who followed any form of logical thought would realise that, if this was all a Government operation, the number of people and resources involved would be immense. There would be no way that all these years down the line no one would have come out and called foul.
Champions!!! said:
There are conspiracy theories and then there's 9/11. Conspiracy theories are things such as people claiming Americans never went to the moon and that it was all filmed in a studio because the flag was moving, the shadows weren't correct...blah blah blah.
Obviously there's always going to be conspiracy theories around. Anyone remember "Satan's face" in the smoke cloud? or supposedly adding certain letters and numbers together in MS Word with Wingdings font gives you a strange outcome?
But you need to look at the facts, it's there for everyone to see. You don't need to dig deep...hell, you don't need to dig at all to see that the way they towers collapsed couldn't have happened from burning steel. These are not theories, these are facts. Things such as 7 black boxes being destroyed yet they find a passport, such facts ring true to you?
And I don't find it disrespectful to the ones that perished at all. The thing that really is disrespectful is that their Goverment used their names to start and illegal war, now that's what I would call disrespectful.
I wouldn't claim to be an expert in plane crashes and certainly not those on this scale as there luckily haven't been many. If you are then I shall take you word on what would and wouldn't happen in such a situation.
I will not believe some program designed to present a conspiracy theory that the gullible and the anti-Bush will lap up.
I will not believe some program designed to present a conspiracy theory that the gullible and the anti-Bush will lap up.
The_Knight
Senior Squad
Exactly, the key factor in this movie was the facts mentioned.PhiLLer said:
And on the contrary, people don't "like" to believe in conspiracy theories. People are better off believing that a foreign enemy with a 'weird' thinking thousands of kilometers away, has attacked them, because he's bad, twisted, and hates "democracy". That's what people "like", and are more inclinded to believe. Conspiracy theories being interesting is a totally different matter.
No-one wud like to believe that his brother murdered his family when everyone else is saying otherwise... it doesn't fit psychologically. Some things, like the interpretation of the 9/11 attacks, are just easily accepted in people's minds. And no ones wants to prove it wrong.
"A violent foreign terrorist who hates democracy did it"..... sure man it sounds reasonable, no need to prove it to me.
"One of u has done it, and wrapped it in a conspiracy"...... NO way man, it sounds all wrong, and even if u prove it. I WON'T BELIEVE IT.
That's how it works. Forget the facts.
It's plain human psyche.
V
Virgo
Guest
well they don't really go pointing fingers in this documentary, those points are for you to make up your own mind, because obviously there is no solid proof Bush was involved. There's no speculation either à-la Fahrenheit 911, we are presented scientific proof, not the opinion of some fat guy.
The only thing that they tried to prove here is that the official explanation for the attacks is at least full of loose ends and pretty much bullsh*t of the highest order and I think they managed to.
The only thing that they tried to prove here is that the official explanation for the attacks is at least full of loose ends and pretty much bullsh*t of the highest order and I think they managed to.
The_Knight
Senior Squad
The same way nobody has called 'foul' b4 an entire nation invaded Iraq based on... nothing.
It's hard for someone to call foul when he's the same person who tackled. And it's even harder when the outcome of the 'play' is appealing to everyone watching.
It's hard for someone to call foul when he's the same person who tackled. And it's even harder when the outcome of the 'play' is appealing to everyone watching.