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yoyo913

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Nady;3350714 said:
This is also american:



Where is Matt Holme from by the way?



Australia
 

rhizome17

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On a serious note, Palestine was given observer status by the UN yesterday. The modern Israel began life with a UN vote so I look forward to seeing. Palestinian state emerge in the future.


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rhizome17

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Qatar offering to rebuild gaza is some thing that has even under reported. If they can build the economic foundations then the Israeli ghettoisation policy will be rendered useless.


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ShiftyPowers

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Israel loves to play the victim card, but since 1967 they haven't been under serious threat. They antagonize the Palestinians and as you say, make terrorism seem like the only option. It irks me to no end the stupid conservatives who will say "they just hate us! it is inexplicable and unchangeable!" No. Israel is making sure that Palestinians continue to revert to violence which allows them to keep playing the victim card and seizing more land against international law.
 

Alex

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Nady;3350714 said:
This is also american:



Where is Matt Holme from by the way?

How is that American??

As mentioned, Matt is from Australia.
 

Alex

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ShiftyPowers;3350977 said:
Israel loves to play the victim card, but since 1967 they haven't been under serious threat. They antagonize the Palestinians and as you say, make terrorism seem like the only option. It irks me to no end the stupid conservatives who will say "they just hate us! it is inexplicable and unchangeable!" No. Israel is making sure that Palestinians continue to revert to violence which allows them to keep playing the victim card and seizing more land against international law.

I think both sides are pretty bad to be honest. But Palestine are the lesser of the two evils I think.

We won't get peace there until there are two recognised nations, so this is a positive step, but we'll still never see resolution there in our life times
 

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ShiftyPowers;3350977 said:
Israel loves to play the victim card, but since 1967 they haven't been under serious threat. They antagonize the Palestinians and as you say, make terrorism seem like the only option. It irks me to no end the stupid conservatives who will say "they just hate us! it is inexplicable and unchangeable!" No. Israel is making sure that Palestinians continue to revert to violence which allows them to keep playing the victim card and seizing more land against international law.

Yeah, but to be honest both sides can be as bad as each other. I think Palestine are the lesser of the two evils
 
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I am quite anti-Palestine. They MAY have a slither of a just cause in deserving to live in Gaza and the West Bank free from settlers and enhanced Israeli interference (though if it was up to them they would control all of Israel and drive the jews into the sea) but I find it very difficult to empathize with a people half of whom elect a terrorist organization as their government and who kill far more fellow Palestinians than anyone else. It's as if they havent learn a thing from successful protest and resistance movements of the past - what works is either peaceful mass protest (India) or internal insurrection (Algeria), never attempts at cross border conflict with a state with vast military superiority, nor the transfer of responsibility of violent resistance to a public elected body. Also, people talk about Israel being an apartheid state, but it would be far more accurate to describe Palestine as an apartheid (quasi-)state as half of their population (women) are treated far worst than blacks were in apartheid South Africa.

The LAST thing the world needs is another hardcore Islamist totalitarian state and I therefore oppose the notion of Palestinian statehood for this reason.
 

kp41

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I don't want to go back in history but killing innocent people including children is so wrong.
 
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Sir Calumn

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kp40;3351309 said:
I don't want to go back in history but killing innocent people including children is so wrong.
Palestinians do plenty of that too.
 

kp41

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Sir Sir_Didier_Drogba;3351322 said:
Palestinians do plenty of that too.

they killed 3, Israel killed 160, that being said Israel started current problem with that terror.
 
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Sir Calumn

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kp40;3351327 said:
they killed 3, Israel killed 160, that being said Israel started current problem with that terror.
That's the number of Israelis they killed but they themselves have also killed plenty of innocent Palestinians in sectarian violence and infighting.
 

kp41

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Let's make it clear Sir_Didier_Drogba, I don't support Hamas and other radical groups. I just support citizens of both countries, there should be a peace at both sides. Killing citizen is so wrong regardless of race, religious and other things, and that's the bottom line.
 


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