FIFA Football 2003 - post all problems/BUGS here!!!!!!!

[ilshig]

On the whole i reckon the game is pretty good although there are some obvious problems as well
1. Heading is a complete mess and it definately should not be the same button as keeper charge.
2.Speed of players - Top class strikers such as Owen,Ronaldo,Vieri etc cant get passed the weakest of defences but if the computer controlled them you wouldnt get a hopr in hell of keeping up with them.
3. Unrealistic results - during my first season with liverpool i have beaten Man U 4-0 Arsenal 4-1 Inter 5-0 Ajax 5-0 These are all away victories but at home to blackburn 0-0 Tottenham 0-1 southampton 2-2. Why are these results seeming so weird.
4. Wheres the substitution cutscreen why a f**king joke.
5. Some players are really badly overskilled especcially younger members of teams. Liverpool are particuly bad Riise is better than murphy, hes even more skilled than ronaldinho. then theres milan baros who as good as heskey or diouff come on. then smicer is f**king poorly underated. Come on EA you should be able to do a lot better than that get someone to study the clubs during the year. we shouldnt have to make patches as soon as the game comes out
6.Players need to get fatigued. I would rather have it that i need to make a substitute cause someone is tired other than only when they are injured. were has the fatigue settings gone anyway
7.why cant i change my tactics BS EA get it right
8.Why is there only one ref during season play.
9. Why no editing features and i transfereed a player in season mode and the change stayed in my normal friendly matches and the champions league mode thats stupid
ok theres probably more i cant remember all the faults but some good stuff to keep.
1. Graphics awesome
2. commentary is also very high class but it usually is
3. The computer getting booked and actually fouling is superb.
4. Chants rule

But none of these are real gameplay issues. get everything up to scratch before you release a game in the future. Get some better game testers not some stupid amercians or canadians. ask some people who know what football actually is

 

[Ethereal]

i find out a little problem.there's a little bit slower speed in "night" matches i play w/t geforce4 mx440 64mb , 256mbram , athlon xp 1800+

 

[Phoenix]

Originally posted by Pearce96'
Jesus:/
we are on a no winner here.
We have a game with such GLARING bugs like:

• No Swerve On the Ball
• No lone Headers
• Amazing stand up "Dracula" players
• AI recieving the majority of loose balls
• No difference in sprint speed and getting caught up by a donkey when u got 20 yards on them
• Keepers don't dive on succesful free kicks
• Keeper charge and Header on same button
• Stupid Auto clearance even when EA Assistant is off
• Random Shooting Placement - a real hit and hope - just dont let it go red:/
• Useless long ball system - u cant out-sprint the AI to get to the ball
• Smart Pass system is a joke - often the ball does not go anywhere near where u r aiming
• You can not perform a header on the run - you have to be stationary and waiting the ball coming down-so unrealistic
• Only 2 types of pass and lob
• I could go on and on and on
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  And some smart guy talks about players shooting with the wrong foot:/ Who gives a ****? Get the gameplay right.
  If I wanted Figo's face to look perfect I would watch the telly ffs.
  Sort the gameplay EA u have conned us.

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  lets see here...
  
  a- meh, i dont care. u can swerve the ball on a set piece, you can aparently do it with the freestyle but who cares? This is an errelevant problem. Im playing on World Class and the game would make no difference if i could swerve my passes and shots because it all comes down to how you play the game.
  
  b- yeah, so? do we need them that badly? this is just something that would be good to be in the game but isnt there.
  
  c- what?
  
  d- not from where im standing. if you try to intercept a ball all you have to do is hold down D and be in the line of the pass- quite simple. and as for lose balls, if you could pass you wouldnt have a problem
  
  e- sprint speed- i agree, but players standard speed does vary. having the sprinting almost level makes it interesting- it shows that if a player pushes hard enough he can achieve it.
  
  f- yes they do
  
  g- why use this button? its the dumbest way of clearing the ball. try and get it out with D and if that fails tackle the ball away seconds later. i never need to use the header button to clear balls. and even so, if you miss and person gets a header on goal, the gk is on the line and usually stops it
  
  h- yes, but what are you going to do? if it could be turned off im sure hundreds of ppl would complain that they are always getting goals scored against them
  
  i- you need to play the game more if you think it is like that
  
  j- send a player on a run, then pass
  
  k- do you need to a header on the run though? is it necessary? usually not- why? because most of the time, the smartest thing to do is pass along the ground where heading is not needed- its safer too
  
  l- there is more in real life? lets see. ball goes to player, ball doesnt go to player- ball goes airborne to player, ball goes airborne and doesnt go to player- i think they are all covered there
  
  m- *sigh*
  
  
  blah! my two cents- im gonna defend this game to the death because some ppl are too blind to see how hard ea is trying to please a never happy community. its not perfect but ea deserves props for what they have done- they got you to buy it didnt they?

 

[Hans]

Originally posted by Phoenix
blah! my two cents- im gonna defend this game to the death because some ppl are too blind to see how hard ea is trying to please a never happy community. its not perfect but ea deserves props for what they have done- they got you to buy it didnt they?

So ? It doesn`t mean we can`t critize and ask for improvement, does it ? Since we are the customer, and we pay them our money, we all have the right to ask them for improvement. Yeah, yeah they improve the gameplay, but does it really takes three years just to improve it ?

 

[Perth Glory]

Phoenix - You'll find most people aren't naive enough to try and defend EA to the death....ok theyve taken a step forward but its a step thats four years overdue

swerving a ball is irrelevant?? watch any game of football and you'll see players trying to swerve their passes around the opposition..

Sprinting-so any defender can catch Henry, they just have look within themselves...

Why would you want to clear a cross with your head? Imagine if defenders marking Alan Shearer could only volley the ball or wait till he brings it down...

you'll find the best teams will pass it out of defence(Brasil in the WC come to mind) with hoofing the ball being the last option.

Yes heading on the run is important, attacking momentum is lost when players have to stand and wait for the ball. Solely passing along the ground is too predictable, the odd chipped pass with players running on to head the ball will unnerve any defence.

ok, maybe the game is just right for you but the points that Pearce raised would improve the realism of the game and
have been with the fifa series since 99.

"they got you to buy it didnt they?" errrr no, they convinced me PES2 is still the only football game worth buying.

 

[som3a]

Gameplay problems (in my opinion):

1- Impossible to head the ball while not being marked by a CPU player.
2- The game is too fast even on the "slow" mode, i don`t have time at all to think of what to do next. This was made even worse with the fact that most camera angles are too close to give u a full scene of the situation.
3- As Tom green said, collision detection is a big joke. The CPU players can go through your players as if they weren`t there at all and this is very obvious in the replays. The worst thing about that is that this is only a CPU advantage which the CPU players use to score most of thier goals. On the other hand, the human player doesn`t have this advantage and we have to pass the ball around for ages looking for a small gap in the CPU defense. I`d prefer that the CPU depends more on passing the ball around and attempting to cross or shoot from long range rather than those Maradona style goals. EA are too pathetic to think about realism, there only way for making the CPU stronger is by making its players like ghosts who can go through walls...and without this BUG, the game will be too easy.
4- Smart passing should be called "dumb" passing. It`s not accurate at all.
5- The speed attribute is unrealistic at all. Any CPU player having a speed of 5 or 6 can beat my 10 speed striker any time. This is not the case when the CPU controls a 10 speed player as he can keep a good distance from my defenders even if they also have a 10 speed.
6- The CPU can do all sorts of regular and skill moves while running, while it`s impossible for me to do so.
7- The CPU can pressurize my players in all parts of the field and sometimes even closing on one of my players with 2 or 3 players. We need the pressure key "Z" back.
8- We should be able to do more skill moves more easily and depending on the player`s ball control attributes. For example, i don`t think that Henry will ever have a problem in getting past any defender in a one-on-one situation. How comes this is not the case in the game. Anyway, i think we should be able to do alot more skill moves like in RTWC98.

Misc. things that needs improvement:

1- The tactics are too stricted. The attacking and defending styles have been removed and this is very bad. We need more freedom in making tactics. We should be able to assign a number of players for each line (like in RTWC98), attacking and defending bias for each player (also like RTWC 98), coverage areas (like in FIFA96), 3 IGM tactics (like in FIFa99 and 2000). We also need the attacking and defending styles back.

2- The button remapping option has a bug. You have to remap the keys everytime u restart the game or go to the settings menu. This should be fixed. (Why the heck did they change the running key to "E" anyway).

3- More realistic attributes for players. Many players are either too over-rated or too under-rated. For example, how comes that Damien Duff has a speed of "8". The guy is as fast as lightening in real life.

That`s all i can remember now.


Finally, i don`t want any of the "EA defenders" to comment on my post. What i wrote here doesn`t mean that the game is bad, infact, this is THE BEST FOOTBALL TITLE EA EVER MADE SINCE RTWC98. What i wrote here is just what i think should be improved in the game. I think the game would be much better if EA can tweak and fix the above problems. I hope they do in thier next title.

 

[nickclubman]

Yeah, the CPU should have LOADS more possession, I always get more and that's unrealistic!

EA should have double the time to make 2004, so lets hope it's a winner!!

Nick Clubman.

 

[Phoenix]

the point im trying to make is that whilst it is not the most realistic game you can still play this game, win and enjoy playing it even with the things missing. i cant stand how ppl are putting this game off so quickly because it has a few things missing- its still playable

 

[Hans]

Originally posted by Phoenix
the point im trying to make is that whilst it is not the most realistic game you can still play this game, win and enjoy playing it even with the things missing. i cant stand how ppl are putting this game off so quickly because it has a few things missing- its still playable

Yes, but if EA could improve it by releasing a patch, why not ?

 

[simakperrce]

Originally posted by Phoenix
the point im trying to make is that whilst it is not the most realistic game you can still play this game, win and enjoy playing it even with the things missing. i cant stand how ppl are putting this game off so quickly because it has a few things missing- its still playable

well, with this attitude you could then also still play Pacman, win and enjoy it...

i agree that some people tend to whine too much and too soon -- but we all want improvement and evolution, and as long as opinions are are constructive it's only fair to utter them here. that's what this forum is for, no?

 

[Pearce96']

Phoenix - lol
Your arguments to try and defend the game are laughable m8.

Just like backspin "rip" in golf - a 25 yard curler on the run is one of the most beautiful sights in Football. And Fifa does not allow u to do that.
I think there are some great features in 2003 - but the bugs make it a poor gaming experience. Developers should concentrate more on the gameplay and less on the eye-candy imo.

As for your comments about "I never use the header button to clear the ball" hmmmm so realistic........ Yeah u never see defensive headers in r/l do ya..?

And the not being able to head on your own has got to be the most annoying - mainly cos' the AI can do it - chase down a long ball and grip your gamepad till your knuckles go white because they just deftly head it to the side and set up an attack:/

As for heading on the move - play the game and look how unrealistic it is-if u r not in position a good couple of seconds before the ball arrives - u got no chance of winning it.
Not just unrealistic but crap gameplay.

Yeah EA did get me to buy it m8-me and some other people who are not happy that the game OBVIOUSLY has not been playtested properly. Not 2 much to ask for a patch imo.

 

[nickclubman]

EA are biased towards the graphics, they love graphics, they should keep the graphics of 2003 for 2004 and just include more individuality for players' and more faces and stuff, oh and more stadiums.

BUT a lot of it should be gameplay and nothing but!!

Nick Clubman.

 

[waylando]

I think that the BIG problem with EA is that they think that people will be happy with a game with lots of animations, lots of sounds, lots of color, and lots of the latest musical hits. Well, WRONG!!!!!

We, the people who LOVE footbal want to do things we see on tv, on the stadium every sunday, want to score goals with our favorite players..

For an example, i am Real Madrid, and the CPU is Liverpool. And what happens? Owen runs through my defense, and gets in a one-on-one with my goalie. And instead of try to dribble him (very Owen-ly), he just kicks the ball full of strenght.

EA, do you actually know the players you design?. I think you need more improvment and more testing. Maybe a couple of brazilian guys and a british, you know, people who really cares about football, and not only in sales boards.

 

[nickclubman]

Originally posted by waylando
I think that the BIG problem with EA is that they think that people will be happy with a game with lots of animations, lots of sounds, lots of color, and lots of the latest musical hits. Well, WRONG!!!!!

We, the people who LOVE footbal want to do things we see on tv, on the stadium every sunday, want to score goals with our favorite players..

For an example, i am Real Madrid, and the CPU is Liverpool. And what happens? Owen runs through my defense, and gets in a one-on-one with my goalie. And instead of try to dribble him (very Owen-ly), he just kicks the ball full of strenght.

EA, do you actually know the players you design?. I think you need more improvment and more testing. Maybe a couple of brazilian guys and a british, you know, people who really cares about football, and not only in sales boards.

True, true, FIFA 2003 represents football but only to a certain extent and MOST of it is graphics. Take PES2 for example, the realism on the pitch is MOSTLY GAMEPLAY!!

EA need to get a good balance between them both, but a GOOD balance for me and I bet for MANY, MANY, MANY, GO ON FOREVER OTHERS, would prefer more gameplay then graphics.

I just don't know what EA has in their minds sometimes and taking out the curl on the ball is just...?!?!?!? I don't get it EA, why? Is there any logical explanation to do this, or did you just feel people won't give a sh*t?

Either way, I'm not going to sit here arguing, people say this and it's true: If you play FIFA 2002 then 2003 you'll FEEL the difference and the jump in realism, NOT JUST SEE and we want to FEEL more in 2004, cause 2003 graphics are AWESOME!!!!

Nick Clubman.

 

[dirtydesire]

Originally posted by ferencvaros
shooting is horrible, sometimes My shots go strait up to the nose bleed section in the corner...whats that all about... especially when i'm directly in front of the net

the pc can sprint past my players and keep a good distance between my defenders but when I try that the pc catches up to me all the time.

how about throw ins.... when the pc throws the ball in I can't control my players until the ball is almost to their players and by that time its too late to do anything

thats it for now but i'm sure I have moreIve installed Fifa 2k3 on my win2000 pc, 1.2 duron, 128 ram, 128 meg abit siluro GeForce 3 ti 200, on board sound etc. It runs fine but restarts my pc when playing the game. Sometimes it restarts as soon as players run out onto the pitch and sometimes 2 - 5 minutes later. The demo did this aswell, and Ive done everything as far as updating drivers is concerned. Ive also emailed EA and they just told me to update drivers. When playing the actual game it runs super, on full quality and high res. I have tried different settings but same old story. I originally had Win XP but same problems there, People please please please help me. Ive searched all the forum and there are quite a few people with the same problems. Help Please or ill cry like a bitch.

 

[Phoenix]

as far as im concerned about the heading.. actually, im not concerned. yes, there are some things missing but the game is still playable! let us not forget that.

there are other tactics you can use to compensate for it, if you want realism look elsewhere because EA simply arent about that. its money and eye candy. i didnt get fifa2003 for a simulation, i got it for fun and im quite content with it.

now i would love a perfect game as much as the next person, but put simply fifa isnt the title that will deliver it (secondly perfection theoretically can never be achieved). but you can still play it and it just ****s me to tears when ppl complain that the game is crap because one thing is missing.

you could list the top 100 games of all time and there is always going to be something missing or wrong with one of them- but they were still played and enjoyed and thats the point im trying to make

 

[waylando]

make a point?

Phoenix - Do you think you´re making a point just saying "EA lied to me again, so im just sitting here and play, waiting to them to lie me again next year"????????

I think that you belong to EA in a sort of way. You can´t like this game the way people like PES2.