FIFA 2004 Wishlist

[Mauro DeLa Vega]

Things EA took out of the game throughout the years that I (we?) want back:

-Indoor stadium for friendlies.

-Training mode

-Good team management with decent tactics and the ICM (Euro2000).
We don't need a 2-5-3 or 3-6-1 formation! 3-4-3 should be back and Line tactics (Diamond, Wingers, Sweeper, etc..) options.

-Substitution cinematics. Why are they gone?

-Curved pass/shots in-game (obviously)


Major suggestion for FIFA2004:

Beta-testing!!
Let some experienced FIFA-gamers play the game and listen to what they think of it.

 

[Sobe]

wishlist

some wishes for FIFA 2004
-first lets get a creation centre. i love creating players.

-more leagues. meaning more internation league tournoments, not just the european turnoments.people in the americas play this game also!

-ok when you win an important game allow the players to really celebrate hard. adding more drama.especially when you win a cup.and also if you make a goal that could decide a game in the final minutes, let the players go nuts and the crowd as well.and when you win a cup game , have all the subs come out and celebrate.if its an internation team have them all come out and some carrying their national flag and waving it around.

-its really nice when the crowd stands up and cheers when u attempt shots but when they calm down they all go back to their seats at the exact same time.this looks fake.(anyone else know what im talking about?)instead let them sit down one section at a time.

-stop the loud OHHH's everytime an away team misses a shot.

-i also noticed that when the away team is awarded a penalty ,the home crowd cheers like its a good thing. let them be silent. more real. and also when the home team golie saves a penalty the crowd needs to cheer hard. they never do.and when a game is decided by penalties the players need to be more emotional when they make or miss a shot. especially if a player has to take the deciding penalty. he needs to go nuts with exitement, they just stand around in fifa 2003 after they win a game by penalties.fake!

-for the spanish commentary. have a broadcaster the says the infamous ''ggoooooooooooolllllll'' after every other goal or so. i love that.

-also how about some boooos when the away team is controling the ball at the start of the game..

-if possible , how about the playing of national anthems for the international teams before cup games?

-also some actual chants for the international teams.

-when playing with a team thats not so popular or that doesnt win so many games, how about having less fans in the stadium seats?its always a packed house no matter what. especially for a league that never has a crowded stadium like the MLS.

-also let there be more unlockable awards. it makes it more interesting when you know that your playig to unlock something.how about allowing us to unlock some teams?maybe some teams that are good that normally dont appear in FIFA games. how about allowing us to unlock some classic teams from the past? or players from the past like maradona, pele etc.bottom line is the needs to be more awards. it makes it better in my opinion.

-after the game stop showing all the tackles that occured in the game when the highlights are shown .they take the place of other better shooting highlights that could have been shown. i dont care how the tackle looks, and i dont wanna see all of them in the highlights.

- bring back the free cam from fifa 2002 on the replay mode.

- how about some actual stadiums from the americas!

-also if your not gonna include some leauges form the americas them how about at least adding some of the top temas form the americas in the ''rest of the world'' section?you have teams like galatasaray and ajax. why not cruz azul and america from mexico? or boca juniors and river plate?give us westerners a chance to enjoy some our favorite teams also!

i cant think of any more improvements. anyone agree or have any improvements for my improvements?? let me hear them!!

 

[realmadridcf]

I want that players could make a freekick if the is to hard in a head-duel!

casper

 

[nickclubman]

My ideas.

Make it harder to run with the ball, make the ball be kicked further out and to be stolen easier if you're not careful and make it so it takes much more time to master the running speeds. Maybe look at PES2 so that there are about 4-5 different jogging/running/sprinting speeds.

Make the shooting harder to direct and harder to stay down, but keep the low/ground shots, this is realistic and people like a shooting system that is very hard to master and get used to straight away. Something that keeper the players' 'playing' the game.

The goalkeepers should be able to save more 1-on-1's, though this might not reflect the realism in a 'real' match, it would add more excitement and emotion and not 'here's another goal' as soon as you're in the penalty area.

Make the goalkeeper's dive and save freekicks that are on target, but not all the time. It's just that a bit of both diving/saving and just standing dumb founded would be good, unlike FIFA 2003 where it seems that every freekick that is on target = GOAL!

Make the pitch bigger, much bigger, the bigger the pitch the more realistic the score and the game, if this was don with 2003 (even though the pitch is bigger but not enough) then it would be even better.

Make the A.I defence harder to break and make it harder to pass the ball around and keep possession.

The A.I should be more clever at keeping the ball and should REEEAAALY make the player work to get it back, but add more A.I tactics, so that it might not happen all the time, maybe this could be reflected on the score line and time, like 2003, but add more depth into this.

The players' should be more unique. The more unique the players' are both physically and graphically then the better and more realistic the game will be and play.

Make a more realistic fatigue system.

Double bookings? This would be great. Maybe a new fouling system for this and I think that to make it so fouling a player ISN'T just possible from slide tackles would be great, this has been in past FIFA's but has gone!

More difficulty levels make it harder though, not easier, so even if the game does appeal to the younger audience, they'll have to learn just as much as the older players' do. 3+ for a FIFA game is not very great.

Make the grass really 3D and make the ball react with certain conditions and even the players', we all know a rainy game make people slide and the ball should act realistically to this.

That's all, I'll be back when I think of some more.

Nick Clubman.

 

[GuileSN]

Damn ! Isn't it too early to make a sticky thread with a wishlist for FIFA 2004 ???

What a quality game, uh ?

 

[Hans]

Originally posted by GuileSN
Damn ! Isn't it too early to make a sticky thread with a wishlist for FIFA 2004 ???

What a quality game, uh ?

The earlier the better I suppose. So EA can really read and fully understand what we want.

 

[nickclubman]

Here's it.

THESE ARE THE THINGS I REALLY WANT!

*Bigger pitch

*More unique player faces and attributes/animations and skills.

*In-depth fouling and booking system.

*Improved A.I and shooting.

*Fix heading and other bugs, though I know a game can;t be bug free, some bugs are just really nasty.

These are the things I want the most!

Nick Clubman.

 

[GuileSN]

Well.....

Happy waiting till October or November 2003 then.. Don´t know how you can feel satisfied having to wait so much for having a decent game, instead of throwing this bag of bugs on the thrash and playing the "bug free" games, that you know which ones they are.. Just a friendly advice to all football lovers, that, like me, had to wait for many years until seeing the real football light, which I want to share with all of you..

Cheers

 

[Muzzsjm]

!

Bring back the old method for headers/volleys...

BUT PLEASE PLEASE ADD INDOOR MATCHES!!!!!!

 

[FerryvD]

Re: !

Originally posted by Muzzsjm
Bring back the old method for headers/volleys...

i like this method
they just need to fix the heading

 

[nickclubman]

MORE managing options and have it so in a Season you can bid for players' and have managers and people asking for meetings and to transfer players', like in TCM2003, accept you play the matches and have the total control like FIFA, but the managing stuff of TCM2003!

Nick Clubman.

 

[aureo11]

First of all, I really enjoy FIFA2003. Almost all aspects of the game are more realistic then in previous versions. However, that being said, I am really into having realistic player and team stats and options. Here are some of the things I would like to see added or improved in this area:

-Make fatigue a factor during games and thruout the season. In HighHeat Baseball (Sorry to bring this up, but its a good example), players get more tired throuout the season if they dont get time off. This also makes them more prone to injuries. By doing so, we would have to really manage our teams and use every player, especially if we were doing the ECC during a season. For example, have the fittest players (10s) lost a percent of stamina every three game minutes, and the players with less stamina lose it a little faster. They would also lose stamina for sprinting, both short term and over the course of the game. The players would then recooperate, say 5-8% a day. This system would create a real need to manage one's team wisely. (ie. play Owen in the ECC match and his backup in the league match againest West Ham).

Also, I would like to see statistics besides Goals and Cards. The stats in different competitions are a good start, but bring back the ability to see every team, not just your own and the league leaders. Also add stats such as assists, matches played and tackles, and also saves and shots againest for goalies. I feel that these are essential stats that must be included. Also, make the season totals more realistic. The goal leader should be a striker and have about 25-35 goals, especially if his team was in the ECC or other Euro competitions.
When playing a league, I would like to be able to see the tables, fixtures, and stats of all the other leagues as well. Simulating all the leagues would give the player a more realistic feeling of how the schedules, trades and teams relate to each other. This would make goal scoring races more interesting, as one would be going against all Euro players, not just in own league. Just remembered, do include transfers, and make some players hard to get, where you have to negociate a price, depending on how he's done that season, career, etc. This would make more sense then now, where strikers cost so much more then any other players.
I also think that the league cups should include many more teams. I realize that putting in all the English teams in the FA Cup might take EA to long, but maybe make it an option to add these teams, so that players can use CC to make them and add them to the cup. Also give the option for users to make teams in lower divisions and then connect them directly to Premier division, so that player could create a real promotion campaign from second divsion to first, and on to Premier and try to win title there. This would add more play time.

On team management level, allow users more feedom in choosing formations and tactics. I think that we should be able to move each icon to where we want in and create any formation we want. We should also be able to control tactics, especailly on corners and free kicks. Allow us to choose which players run in on corner, etc. In FIFA2000, it was possible to have the players move around the box on corner, bring that back.

Four small gameplay issues. Make the goalies hold more shots instead of punching them and add curving ability to balls hit in regular play. Also bring back free cam in replay mode and make it possible to hit stronger headers.

Unlike many people, I feel that EA doesn't need to improve the stadiums, graphics, kits, etc that much. Adding the things I taked about above would make many people forget about looks. These additions would create a game that could be enjoyed by people that are looking for true realism, as well as people that just want to have fun.

 

[maieie]

How about some tournament integration? I mean, international games are not separate form the actual club season, they take place toghether throughout the year. It would be nice to be able to issue caps to the national teams from any player of that nationality, not just be restricted to a 20 player roster made by EA.
In short, some sort of season (or career) mode like the one in TCM where players might get injured for years, international caps affect their performance, players punch referees and use illegal stuff, etc.

 

[MightyTic]

Not had time to read all ...

2004

1. Build from scratch .. Gameplay and Real Total Control!!

2. Gameplay and ALL that involves ( forget graphics they are good enough).

3. If I can pass a ball by a man standing a couple of feet from me then so should players in the game

4. If players real life can hit a shot as hard as he can and still
get it on Target then in gameplay so should the player I control.

5 Ball gravity , If real player can hit dipping swerving shots then so should players in the game.

6. Headers .. Say' it ALL

7. Better tackling.

8. Player movement at set=pieces

9. Animation .. even in 2003 players still had a stiffness about there running movements. Net animation will add to the feel good factor of scoring goals.

10. What was wrong with the in-game stat changes .player stat and the like!

11. Zoom , give me back my zoom out option in cameras option

12. ( in the song style of 2 nil 2 nil ) a chant from football fans the world over ....... Give us in 2004 Gameplay gameplay Gameplay gameplay

 

[Fifagol]

answer

I would want: devout?
conditions climatiche(snow, fog, hail,wind ) devout? stadium seen of the replay from a determined player To improved the devout Doors? realistic fourth man with its funzionalit?(minuts of recupere and substitutions) raccattapalle to devout edge public field? real stadium not always full

 

[Iggy]

OK. Here we go. I'll type much, and I don't have perfect english, but i think that people in this thread and in EA should understand me. OK.

1. U must fix bugs when passing. What bug? The bug comes when i pass to other player, he misses the ball, and other players, mine and opponents stops and keep looking at me how i'm elegantely running, with no rush, for a ball. When i get to it, game continues. That's... not all right...

2. U must make AI much harder, couse i'm too tired to win with any club on world class, and have ball possesion in my players legs like 62-38 for me, of course.

3. OK. U like graphich improoving, BUT, for better gameplay u MUST include MANAGER OPTIONS. That's like: better tactics, much more formation options (in 2003 was a disaster, only few formation which u could modify...), then, fatigue, and better transfer system. How better? Well, i'm for example manager of Real Madrid and i wanna buy Francesco Totty from Roma. In every FIFA's u could mark him and get him... now! In new transfer system Roma would like to negotiate about Totti's price, or, about money. And, at the end, Totti will be in Real Madrid after few months of hard negotiations with AS Roma.
And, the MAIN thing in Manager options would be PLAYER'S IMPROOVENT. How's that working? Like in real life. There will be a training, with every detail in it, like in real life. So, if, for example Morientes is lacking in shooting, his Shooting Atribute whish was 50, now is 45. That would be happening with every attributes. Of course, u could control with your DESIRED player, and others would be controlled by AI. Player's improoving system will be easy or hard. In easy or Ameteur difficulity Player's Improoving System will be easy, but on World Class... u know what I mean?

4. Why don't u make an option where u don't need to control with all team, but ONE individual who will start for example in third league and he could have a career. That guy could be me, you, and by his improoving, he get's older and more experienced. He was in third league? Now he is a great player who is playing in Real Madrid first league. When his career ends, u could make another player and so on... That would be great, trust me.

5. Get Zinedine Zidane for Motion Capture, please!!!

I hope that my words will help EA to make something like i've just posted.
Anyway, thanks for this improovent in FIFA 2003.

Sorry for... bad english.

 

[FMF]

MEXICAN LEAGUE!!!!!!

Hi, ive been a loyal FIFA FAN! ive been buying their game since road to world cup 98, i have on question.....The Mexican league is as good or better than any other league in FIFA 2003! why cant we (mexicans) have the mexican league in FIFA 2003? do you think its possible to have our league in FIFA 2004?? what do you people think about the mexican league???

 

[Pearce96']

It's sad to have this thread imo........................
EA have realeased a poorly tested and and badly bugged game.
But it seems everyone is going to gloss over it and look forward to the next release:/
sux

 

[FMF]

I have other suggestion..... what about a MANAGE ONLY MODE??? i think this could be cool like TCM 2003, what do you think??

 

[nickclubman]

Originally posted by FMF
I have other suggestion..... what about a MANAGE ONLY MODE??? i think this could be cool like TCM 2003, what do you think??

Nah, wouldn't be great in my opinion, I wouldn't buy it!

**********

Right well, I think EA should look and THINK about WHAT players' can actually do in the real game and maybe they the programmers should have some fun at paying football (soccer for them) and see just what THEY can do. Then they should implement that stuff into the game.

Like shooting: Shooting needs SO much more depth then what FIFA 2003 has, cause in reality, you can swerve IF YOU WANT TO, you can dip the ball and make it swerve, or just make it dip, you can do chip shots and have really powerful low shots, or not so powerful, in reality getting a shot to stay down and bang in the top corner would take a long time to master, even a low powerful top corner shot would be hard, cause players’ like Beckham can so that, but they still find it difficult at times. Despite the fact that I would be controlling players' as good as Beckham, it should still take much longer to master the shooting system, cause that way, everything is realistic about the shooting and if enough depth is put into the shooting, MUCH more then FIFA 2003, then you'll get some very nice fans behind you! ME INCLUDED, though I'm already a fan, I'm kind of sinking down, cause last year, the gameplay stopped me playing and this year, it's cause of the bugs and the lack of testing in the game, it just makes the game poor at times, but it IS still enjoyable.

What we need is a REALLY fantastic shooting system, something that allows ALL kinds of shots to be made possible, but to pull off the really incredible stuff like top corners, you'll have to play MUCH longer then what you do in 2003.

The keepers are also terribly balanced. A.I keepers and human keepers should be the same and save more close shots, MUCH more. Make us sweat when playing EA, SCARE THE CRAP OUT OF US!!! The more nervous we get when paying, the better, cause that means scoring would just knock them nerves away and you’d be cheering MUUUCH more, think about it…maybe you should get one them Emotions dudes, that knows how to make people do this and that, so that you can make the game do ‘this and that’ to make the players’ FEEL more in their match, if you know what I mean!?!?

Thanks,

Nick Clubman.