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FC Porto Thread [2006-2007]

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Tajike

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Well, it's official: we missed out on a player who I regard as one of the more prolific strikers in Europe:

FC Porto ziet af van Vennegoor

PORTO - FC Porto ziet af van verdere pogingen om PSV-aanvaller Jan Vennegoor of Hesselink naar Portugal te halen.
Volgens de voorzitter van de club, João Pinto Da Costa, kan en wil de landskampioen de transfersom voor de lange Oranje-international niet betalen. Naar verluidt verlangt PSV zo’n zes miljoen euro voor Vennegoor.

,,Als geld geen probleem geweest was, hadden we Deco of Ricardo Carvalho wel gehaald,’’ sprak Pinto da Costa in de Portugese krant O’Jogo. ,,De trainer wil Vennegoor of Hesselink graag hebben, maar momenteel acht ik de kans klein dat hij ook daadwerkelijk komt. We willen ons niet te diep in de schulden steken voor één speler.’’

Vennegoor of Hesselink heeft in Eindhoven nog een contract tot medio 2008. Hij kwam in vijf seizoenen PSV tot 86 doelpunten in 212 officiële wedstrijden. Nu de transfer naar FC Porto van de baan kan de spits komend seizoen toetreden tot een illuster gezelschap. Hij kan als veertiende speler in de PSV-historie de grens van honderd officiële doelpunten bereiken.

Basicly says we can't cough up the 2 extra million to reach their demand of 6M. PDC also said that if money wouldn't be a problem he would also try to get Deco and Carvalho back but he doesn't want to buy a player that will cause a debt for the club. There's also the confirmation that VoH was a personal choice of CoA.
They conclude by saying that VoH can become the 14th player in the history of PSV to reach the 100-goal mark now that he stays, after having scored 86 goals in 5 seasons (212 games).

Excuse me as I am going to cry in a dark little corner...
 

MaSsiVe

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can't say I'm sad dude, those are awesome news (H)(Y)

I hope Adriaanse has another option kept in his mind, a better one obviously.
In Holland, I'd maybe try to get Charisteas from Ajax.
 

Silencer

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MaSsiVe said:
can't say I'm sad dude, those are awesome news (H)(Y)

I hope Adriaanse has another option kept in his mind, a better one obviously.
In Holland, I'd maybe try to get Charisteas from Ajax.

You can forget about Charisteas, he will not only be more worth then that nobody VoH but he said in an interview this week that he won't leave Ajax and he is 100% sure about that. He wants to compete with Klaas-Jan Huntelaar (our nr 1 striker) and Markus Rosenberg for a spot in the selection with our new coach Henk ten Cate. He doesn't care if he needs to sit on the bench either he is NOT leaving Ajax (his words)
He scored already 8 goals for us in friendly games this week (Y)

This is the source:

Charisteas blijft voor 100%
Translation: Charisteas is staying for 100%

''Ik blijf voor honderd procent bij Ajax'', die woorden sprak Angelos Charisteas vanavond tegenover Elf nadat hij voor Ajax viermaal had gescoord in de oefenwedstrijd tegen de amateurs van De Lutte (18-0).
Translation: I'm staying for 100% at Ajax, those words were spoken by Angelos Charisteas tonight after he scored 4 times in a practisegame against amateurclub de Lutte (18-0)
''Er is een nieuwe trainer, dus zijn er nieuwe kansen. Daar wil ik voor gaan, al besef ik dat het niet makkelijk zal zijn gezien de aanwezigheid van Klaas-Jan Huntelaar. Hij is een Nederlandse jongen en erg populair bij het publiek.
Translation: There is a new coach so there are new chances, I want to go for that, I realise it won't be easy because of Klaas-Jan Huntelaar. He's a Dutch guy and extremely popular with the fans.

Maar als ik de wel de voorkeur krijg, kan ik maar zo 25 goals maken dit seizoen.''
Translation: But if I will be picked, then it can happen that I score like 25 goals this season.

So sorry but "Harry" stays with us :rolleyes:

Aren't there any good strikers in Portugal??
 

MaSsiVe

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hey Charisteas was just an idea that came to my mind as I consider him to be a good striker and Co is searching players through the Dutch football market, there aren't even any rumours of a Porto interest in him.

about the good strikers in Portugal issue, lets just say that the good ones are already taken by the best teams.
still, there aren't many good options unfortunately.
 

Silencer

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Must be otherwise you don't want a striker like VoH and I was so hoping he would go to Porto so that we in Holland are finally rid of him :rolleyes:
 

MaSsiVe

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well as an Ajax fan you should be happy if he was to remain at PSV given that he sucks as much as you say.
either way if he doesn't come to Porto he'll most probably leave Holland anyway, I read Porto are not the only team interested.
 

Tajike

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Silencer said:
Must be otherwise you don't want a striker like VoH and I was so hoping he would go to Porto so that we in Holland are finally rid of him :rolleyes:

An Ajax-fan throwing mud at an PSV-player to convince fans of other teams how crap he is...? You got to love clubitis :p

btw If he's so bad: why do you want him to leave Holland?
 

MaSsiVe

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Arveladze gave an interview to oJogo to mainly talk about Tarik, and he left a hint to Co:
Kluivert is free.

ok he's 30 now, but for me it actually wouldn't be a bad move at all considering that I've always loved to see him play.
I really hope Co gets to read the interview and takes that possibility into account (Y)
 

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Está desfeito o enigma. Adriaanse regressou às conferências de imprensa bem ao seu estilo. A novidade foi, ontem, a confirmação de um lugar no plantel para o sul-africano: “McCarthy está bem e vai ficar entre nós, tal como no ano passado. Conto com ele.”
good news if you ask me, I prefer to keep his lazy yet talented ass with us for another season rather than sell him now for a miserable fee.
who knows, maybe he has a good season and justifies an extension to his contract :brow:

heh, on another note we beat Cerveira 17-0 in our first pre-season match.
not that it actually means dick but it's better than 3-1 against Tourizense like last year...

and Monday, Holland here we go.
 

MaSsiVe

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Sonkaya has been loaned to Académica for one season.
I feel sorry for Vinnie :evil:


speaking of releases, there are 2 players (in case no one else arrives of course) left to let go.
we currently have 27 players in the squad (counting Lucho and R.Costa who are yet to return), Co wants 25 max.
my choices would be Bruno Alves and maybe Bruno Moraes.
even if Moraes hasn't had a chance to prove himself yet, the thing is that I really want us to keep Vieirinha.
Bruno Alves simply sucks.
but I don't know, my guess is that Co will probably drop Moraes and Vieirinha :(
 

Tajike

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MaSsiVe said:
but I don't know, my guess is that Co will probably drop Moraes and Vieirinha :(

F.C. Porto: talento de Vieirinha e polivalência de Ezequias impressionam Adriaanse

Co Adriaanse parece estar em boa forma. Polidez no discurso em inglês, expressões lusófonas pelo meio e elogios, muitos elogios para os que trabalham a seu lado. Os novos «recrutas» do «batalhão», por exemplo, foram brindados com palavras agradáveis mas que acarretam um elevar de responsabilidades. Ezequias foi o primeiro alvo das mordomias sintácticas de Co Adriaanse.

«Gostei muito da actuação do Ezequias no jogo de hoje. Tem a possibilidade de actuar na esquerda e no meio, tanto na defesa como no meio-campo e é um jogador que me tem agradado nesta primeira semana.» Sem dar espaço a perguntas e a um ritmo constante, Co Adriaanse desfilou pelos nomes dos vários reforços, como que antecipando toda e qualquer dúvida dos jornalistas presentes na sala de imprensa do Olival.

«O João Paulo também se encontra já a um bom nível. É competente na defesa e no meio-campo defensivo. Estou surpreso é com o talento do Vieirinha. É um jovem com uma habilidade natural fantástica e que me tem entusiasmado», prosseguiu, antes de passar para Diogo Valente e Tarik Sektioui, os últimos da lista. «O Diogo vem resolver uma lacuna que tínhamos, relativamente ao número de esquerdinos. Equilibra-nos nessa situação e é também um bom executante. É óptimo poder também contar com o Tarik, que conheço muito bem e que se vai integrar rapidamente.»

Co Adriaanse fez questão de deixar também breves considerações a outro reforço. Chris Kronshorst, o mais recente integrante da equipa técnico, chegado na passada quinta-feira da Holanda. «O Chris é um especialista no desenvolvimento técnico dos jogadores e acho que podemos beneficiar muito com a sua vinda. É um velho conhecido e um homem com um passado importante.»

He really seems to like Vieirinha so I'm putting a bet on Alves and Moraes (*sigh*/expect a lot from the lad but that injury ruined it for him)

On a sidenote:
I'm glad my trust in the buy of Ezequias is warranted by this article. I believe he's an investment for the future and probably one of the most genius things the SAD has ever done.

btw Who were the goalscorers in that 17-0 game?
BigMac = 2
Ezequias = 1
Vieirinha = 1
Who scored the 13 other goals?
 

MaSsiVe

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Tajike I read that too, that Co was impressed by Vieirinha and Ezequias.
the thing is that we have so many wingers now, and I fear that even if Co is impressed he decides to loan Vieirinha in order to get him more experience.
Ezequias as I said before can be very useful because of his versatility, he also has great speed and good technique, but he is yet to show what he can do in a bigger team. he has my trust though (Y)

the goalscorers of the 17-0 were not announced, it seems like the press somehow found out about those you've mentioned but nothing else.
given that, you can already see the Record forums flooded with f'cktards claiming that the result is false :funny:

thanks for the links K3nzo, Tarik looking good :brow:


btw I don't know if you read my last posts talking about it, but what do you guys think about Benni staying?
 

MaSsiVe

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alright so our first game in Holland just ended, we won 6-0 against Rohda Raalte.

by HT we were already up 4-0.

1st half lineup:

Helton
Pedro Emanuel
Pepe
Cech
Paulo Assunção
Raul Meireles
Ibson
Jorginho
Sektioui

2nd half:

Paulo Ribeiro
Bruno Alves
João Paulo
Ezequias
Raul Meireles
Anderson
Vieirinha
Diogo Valente
Alan
Sokota
McCarthy


goals by Jorginho, Ibson, Meireles, Adriano and 2 from Benni (H)
 

Vinnie Jones

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Rofl i thought Académica and Porto had good relations, how could you betray us by loaning Sonkaya? I would sell you Marcel as revenge but Benfica already has him :fool:
 

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I know Vinnie, it was a low shot :p
anyway we gave you Helder Barbosa and maybe now Bruno Moraes on loan, who may be handy :(


so, 3rd friendly of the pre-season, another confortable win.

9-0 against STEVO Gesteren, halftime we were up 4-0.
goals scored by Benni, Alan, Adriano (pen), Ezequias, Ibson x2, Anderson x2, and Tarik scored his first wearing the Porto shirt (H)

first half team:

Paulo Ribeiro
João Paulo
Bruno Alves
Ezequias
Marek Cech
Diogo Valente
McCarthy
Vieirinha
Alan
Sokota
Adriano

2nd half lineup:

Vítor Baía
Bosingwa
Pepe
Pedro Emanuel
Paulo Assunção
Raul Meireles
Ibson
Jorginho
Tarik
Anderson
Quaresma


seems like Anderson was on fire today (Y)


our match on Saturday at 18h against Groningen will be broadcasted by TVI, good stuff.
it will be cool to watch the team playing stronger opposition too, can't wait to see the new players in action :corn:
 

MaSsiVe

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Groningen 2-2 Porto, final score.
both Dutch goals were scored by Nevland, Adriano and Bosingwa for Porto.


first of all, f'ck Bruno Alves.
what a crap excuse for a football player. I still can't understand how he's even in the squad, man :kader:

overall we had an average game.
good game by Bosingwa mainly in the first half, giving a great contribution offensively. in the second half he was more careless, but still managed to have a few good runs forward and grab that late equalizer with a very good play.
Pepe was solid as always (Y)

Meireles had a great game in the midfield, Assunção was his great usual self, plus Anderson got in the match with loads of will and managed to improve our offensive plays especially through the middle.

in the attack I liked Vierinha a lot, really hope Co decides to keep him.
Tarik was no more than average, but it was easy to see that he can be very useful once he gets a good physical condition.


we had more possession, attacked more, but failed to score as much as we should...again :(

Groningen's first goal was so damn lucky, Nevland scores after benefiting of two consecutive rebounds :|, in his second goal I ask: where the f'ck was our defense? :nape:

there's still a lot of work for Co to do, mainly tuning up that defensive line.

can't say I'm satisfied with the team, but the truth is there's still a long way to go before the season actually starts so Co will have enough time to improve our game.
 

yagami

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well , if this is ezequias .... then i want sonkaya back , please !

bruno alves , please please go away ... i cannot imagine how fernando santos wanted you so baldly in greece !

vieirinha should be loaned ... preferably to leiria :) HE DESERVES PLAY TIME ! ( not bench time )
 

Goo Goo boy

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Man, is Co dumb enough to NOT see we concede in EVERY SINGLE game Bruno Alves "plays".

Man I hate that Alves so very much i can't even express it. And i don't hate that many people.

Please Bruno Alves, leave our club for good as soon as possible.


Any of you guys know the schedule for the Amsterdam tournment?
 
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