F.C. BARCELONA Thread [Season 2006/2007]

[OrgulloVikingo]

:mexican:

 

[Socrates]

I don't care about the players anymore, I'd probably hurt them if I could reach them.

I only care about the Club, and right now I have a pretty long OUT list. They can all go f*ck themselves elsewhere, we need some players with heart in Barca.

It's so sad that only a handful of players deserve the shirt.

I can't agree with al on La Liga, I'd care very much if we won it. But I do agree on the fact that things should change drastically even if we do take the league. The Club is the only thing that matters, and I'd welcome another trophy just like anyone else would, but these players have to leave. A lot of them have to leave, as soon as possible.

Now you know what it feels like to be a Madrid fan over the past few years...

Oh and what's this about Puyol wanting to put in a transfer request and one of his teams that he might join is actually us..., that would be very errm werid, like Raul joining you guys.

 

[OrgulloVikingo]

Now you know what it feels like to be a Madrid fan over the past few years...

Oh and what's this about Puyol wanting to put in a transfer request and one of his teams that he might join is actually us..., that would be very errm werid, like Raul joining you guys.

Puyol joining us??? Weird. I don't believe it. He is class, I'm sure many many teams are after his services. I think Etoo might be one of the biggest cancers in that locker room... Socrates, they know what it feels like mate, the 5 years in the tomb was not too long ago.

 

[big al]

I can't agree with al on La Liga, I'd care very much if we won it. But I do agree on the fact that things should change drastically even if we do take the league. The Club is the only thing that matters, and I'd welcome another trophy just like anyone else would, but these players have to leave. A lot of them have to leave, as soon as possible.

i dont know mate ; even if we do win la liga , what in hell could we look back too? wins over recreativo or real sociedad? i just couldnt brag this thophy with a straight face.
i just wanna say something else, it makes me so freaking mad how money has **** up this sport so much , how money ****s up the players so much, and how the more money you get pay the less interest you give to your team.

 

[Socrates]

Puyol joining us??? Weird. I don't believe it. He is class, I'm sure many many teams are after his services. I think Etoo might be one of the biggest cancers in that locker room... Socrates, they know what it feels like mate, the 5 years in the tomb was not too long ago.

Hmm I think it's more the FR and the coachs along with the big players failing them this year. Dinho has 18 goals ( many from PK's, FK's, and the rest headers ) and has been very inconsistant. He has also gotten fat and has reportedly not done much training this year because he is the star and can do that which does effect the team. He is also supposed to be the main thing in their formation but he has failed to take the responsibility to lead the team. He ( Dinho ) seems more interested in money and fame rather than anything else. Also they lack a good DM, Deco has been poor and might leave, Xavi has been off and on all season and only Iniesta has been their most consistant midfielder imo. Messi and Eto'o have been out for quite some time but they really do try for the team ( something that Dinho has not done and also Deco has been lazy, it seems to rub off on the team kind of like Ronaldo on our team ). While Eto'o does not have the best of attitudes and he just needs to keep his mouth shut at times he does try every game and works hard for the team. Messi does the same too, as does Iniesta, Puyol, and Valdes. They also lack good FB's, Zambrotta has failed to impress me but this is his first season so he is excuseable. Thuram is too old and their backups are not that great, Guddy has been a bust ( but FR always plays him over Saviola which was stupid as hell ), Oleguer is total ****, Marquez has lost it, Edmilson forgot how to play, and etc. So really it's their stars not perfroming/being injured and not having good backups mixed with an average coach which leads to the season they have had.

If anyone is to leave it should be Dinho and FR going to Milan while Barca get 100 million euros in return to buy 5 quality players with that money. They don't have to change much as they have a good team, just sell Dinho, Deco, the useless backups like Edmilson, Oleguer, all the FB's minus Zambrotta, and FR. Replace Dinho with a left winger, get an actual DM, a CM, a FB, and a CB and they are good to go again.

Just my opinion of course, oh and I meant it more as that comment by Vedran is expected more in the Madrid fourm rather than in the Barca forum.

 

[big al]

Hmm I think it's more the FR and the coachs along with the big players failing them this year. Dinho has 18 goals ( many from PK's, FK's, and the rest headers ) and has been very inconsistant. He has also gotten fat and has reportedly not done much training this year because he is the star and can do that which does effect the team. He is also supposed to be the main thing in their formation but he has failed to take the responsibility to lead the team. He ( Dinho ) seems more interested in money and fame rather than anything else. Also they lack a good DM, Deco has been poor and might leave, Xavi has been off and on all season and only Iniesta has been their most consistant midfielder imo. Messi and Eto'o have been out for quite some time but they really do try for the team ( something that Dinho has not done and also Deco has been lazy, it seems to rub off on the team kind of like Ronaldo on our team ). While Eto'o does not have the best of attitudes and he just needs to keep his mouth shut at times he does try every game and works hard for the team. Messi does the same too, as does Iniesta, Puyol, and Valdes. They also lack good FB's, Zambrotta has failed to impress me but this is his first season so he is excuseable. Thuram is too old and their backups are not that great, Guddy has been a bust ( but FR always plays him over Saviola which was stupid as hell ), Oleguer is total ****, Marquez has lost it, Edmilson forgot how to play, and etc. So really it's their stars not perfroming/being injured and not having good backups mixed with an average coach which leads to the season they have had.

If anyone is to leave it should be Dinho and FR going to Milan while Barca get 100 million euros in return to buy 5 quality players with that money. They don't have to change much as they have a good team, just sell Dinho, Deco, the useless backups like Edmilson, Oleguer, all the FB's minus Zambrotta, and FR. Replace Dinho with a left winger, get an actual DM, a CM, a FB, and a CB and they are good to go again.

Just my opinion of course, oh and I meant it more as that comment by Vedran is expected more in the Madrid fourm rather than in the Barca forum.

great post socrates, i can totally agree on everything, yes dinho has lost any interest in the sport what so ever. Deco, marquez and xavi which were suposed to be are other main starters have had a terrible season and like you mention our backups arent really up the standards. Zambrotta has been good in some games but when he has an off day my god he really does some amateur stuff. And like you mention etoo and messi even tought they have been injured most of the season they have been are best players along with puyol and iniesta.

i might think barca need to give dinho an ultimatum, he either wakes up and starts caring again or get that **** out, i dont care if he has giving us alot, their are alot of players who have giving us glory and a happyness in the past so that doesnt make him a god up this motha****a lol; if milan want him they can keep him so he can end up just like rivaldo and still we can get some good green in the operation.
We need to sell asap edmilson, guddy, gio, silvinho, motta , oleguer and ezquerro and get some proper backups on those positions.
if wouldnt mine that much if deco and saviola would leave, dont get me wrong they are really good players but i really think we can equal or better replacements, plus i think we could get really good cash with deco.
i dont wanna see marquez, thuram, xavi and giuly go; marquez tought he has been very off this season its becuase he has had some very big personal problems all this season, believe it or not that really ****s up you state of mine and concentration but trust me he is going to bounce back next season. About xavi tought hes been very inconsistent this season he is so important for our team, he is such a class player, thats why we need good replacements for a player such as xavi.
thuram this season has been our best alternative to pair with puyol, but i still think we need a new CB and thuram could still very useful so i dont wanna se him go.
i dont really like giulys playing style , but the reason that i would like him to stay is that at least he tries and tries fo the team, he is such a hardworking player, we really need more of his kind.

 

[Socrates]

I agree with you about Xavi and Giuly, would be better to keep them. Thuram like Fabio is too old and too Italian to defend and be succesful in La liga, if you know what I mean. Marquez is a question, he is not getting any younger and it really depends on what CB's you guys get. Could be a good backup for your starting CB's if you got say Puyol and Gabi Milito in front of him.

Anyway my team still needs to kick a lot of players out aswell...too bad we can't get 100 million euros for one of them though like you guys can

 

[Vedran-10]

Good post, Soc.

Yeah, a major clean-up is in order. Many Barcelonistas are pissed off, and MD has a picture of a dude taking the Club logo off the shirt because the players don't deserve it. It's really shameful.

It's true that Rijkaard is among those who are guilty of our downfall, but I don't think he's to blame the most. I'd personally blame Ronaldinho, Deco, Xavi and Marquez the most. I am pissed off at the rest, too, but I can't blame them THAT MUCH because they are not so important to the team. I am angry that Barca have Gio and Sylvinho as LBs, I think it's sad and they have to leave as soon as the transfer window opens. I will be very pissed off if they stay, but not because they are responsible for our disaster, but because they are not Barca material. I know that, even when they are performing to the best of their ability, they are average for Barca standards, and that is not acceptable. Some other examples are Oleguer, Belletti, Motta, Edmilson, Giuly... these players can't be blamed that much, but many of them (hopefully all of them) have to go. I hate Oleguer because he really can't play football, and yet he is in the team all the time. Belletti, Edmilson and Ludo have lost their level of performance and are not suitable for this team. Their departure should be a sure thing, but I do respect them and thank them for their input. Players like Belletti simply don't have the skill, while players like Ludo lost it due to not very good aging. It's not really their fault so I wish them good luck wherever they go, but it's important that they leave.
That's pretty much all about the players that simply never should have found their place in FC Barcelona this season. Sadly enough, our staff is on a very low level because apparently, the Club is satisfied with having these men as backups. We can't be serious about playing a long season and expecting great things while we have average-at-best players sitting on the bench. It's ridiculous.

Now about the superstars, those wonderful players. Right now, I hate most of them. I would offer Puyol a lifetime contract, giving him the highest wage on the team. He is an absolute beast and by far the hardest working and most consistent player on the team for a long time now. The best captain there is, never fails. Eto'o is the second player that must stay. He can cause chaos, he can reject being subbed in, he can be an asshole more than often, but he has PASSION. He has burning passion and an undying desire to win, which is what we lack so much now. I actually hope now that he had got into a fight with Ronaldinho, because that would mean one of them would have to leave. And considering Ronaldinho's game this season, his over-the-top price and the lovin' he's getting from the mafioso Berlusconi, not to mention Eto'o being the player of the president, Ronaldinho's departure would be as good as done. That would be great, we could get a lot of money to spend on quality players who would run during games, too. Others I'd spare are Messi, Iniesta, Zambrotta and Valdes. All of them have been better than the rest of the team this season, except Zambro, but he's still adapting so he can be let off the hook, it's not so bad. I actually believe he'll excell next season, with the right people around him. You can't say he failed when he has no support defense-wise, because neither the wingers are tracking back nor is the defense helping (Puyol is too busy covering for the CB, LB and DM positions, whoever is failing there).

I sincerely, from the bottom of my heart, hope Ronaldinho, Deco, Marquez, Edmilson, Motta, Oleguer and the other failures leave the team as soon as possible. I'd be happy with a squad of 15 next season, if those 15 players actually put in some kind of effort.

This is completely unacceptable for FC Barcelona, and these players shouldn't be allowed to wear the red&blue. I hope these 5 games, which will probably cost us the league title, are the last ones those "players" will "play" in Barca. I really hope this is the end of their time in Barcelona. It damn well should be.

VISCA EL BARCA!!

 

[newbie original]

well, you're in first, AGAIN, for the time being...6th minute penalty by the dude.

 

[Awax]

Crappy match from Barça, bad time to slip up. Your players play with no motivation, reminds me of Bayern this season

 

[tracertong]

wow Barcelona do an Arsenal. Should have been 4-0 up at half time but only come away with a draw.

 

[big al]

you guys can read some few pages before that i wrote that dinho and etoo were having to many miss chances in the latests games and if we keep it up its was going to come and haunt us. Well their it is, i can feel we lost the liga today, but deep down i feel kinda relief, cause the thunder is comming down on all barca players and theirs gonna be some drastic changes.

its your wake up call you motha****as hehe

 

[CarlosDanger]

I can't even watch them. It's like aliens have come down and switched our players for lazy idiots.

 

[Socrates]

After the match here is what FR said about Ronaldinho

Rijkaard : "Ronnie has changed..."

Hmm interesting, I guess he will leave than?

 

[CarlosDanger]

After the match here is what FR said about Ronaldinho

Rijkaard : "Ronnie has changed..."

Hmm interesting, I guess he will leave than?

Where did you get that?

What site? I'd like to read that interview.

 

[Vedran-10]

I hope he leaves. I hope to God, even though I'm not the most religious guy in the world. Which reminds me, I need a new sig.

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There's nothing we can say for tonight. We had chances and didn't take them. I don't see us winning the league. It's possible, but I have lost almost all faith.
Congratulations to Madrid for grabbing the pole position. We can't say it's not deserved anymore, because things have changed lately.

I hope we can do something in the Vicente Calderon, because otherwise I see that game as the end of our season.

VISCA EL BARCA!

 

[Socrates]

Where did you get that?

What site? I'd like to read that interview.

That's what was said on the bigsoccer/Barca forums by a poster hearing his postmatch interview...he also talks about FR mentioning Betis goal and that noone picked it up in time. FR also states that more work is needed. It was posted by a poster named inswinger who had referenced Radio Catalunya, so I am guessing that is where he heard it from although not 100% sure.

 

[CarlosDanger]

That's what was said on the bigsoccer/Barca forums by a poster hearing his postmatch interview...he also talks about FR mentioning Betis goal and that noone picked it up in time. FR also states that more work is needed. It was posted by a poster named inswinger who had referenced Radio Catalunya, so I am guessing that is where he heard it from although not 100% sure.

Thanks.

 

[big al]

Which reminds me, I need a new sig.

lol :mexican:

 

[tracertong]

Barcelona fans - Would you be happy with 20 million pounds + William Gallas for Samuel Eto to come to Arsenal ?