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English "F.A. Cup" BIG bug

pas7k

Club Supporter
I just played a match on 2nd round of FA cup and it ended in a draw.

Then all of a sudden i saw that i ve been disqualified from the cup!! Checked the calendar and there was a second leg scheduled for next week. I won the 2nd match but it was pointless. the opponent team was already in the next round..

What a bug.. :nape:
 

pas7k

Club Supporter
Okay here r some screens.. See for yourself








After the 1st leg that ended in a draw it showed up peterborough in round 3 and in the newspaper it was sayin "Barnet losers: out of FA Cup from Peterborough"
 

StevePitts

Senior Squad
Is this an unmodified version of FIFA?? By default the FA Cup is not played over two legs and I cannot see anything in the default data that would cause what you are seeing.
 

pas7k

Club Supporter
unmodified? Well i ve only installed a graphics patch nothing else that could cause this bug!

Is there a way i can check it from creation master?
 

Champion757

Youth Team
So what should have happened? StevePitts, you say that by default the FA Cup is not played over two legs. So basically, that's supposed to be a knockout round? And if his match ended a 2-2 draw, it should have went to extra time instead of going to the second leg?

Has anyone else noticed this issue?

Which leagues / tournaments in FIFA 10 have 1st and 2nd leg playoffs?
 

pas7k

Club Supporter
StevePitts;2794659 said:
Is this an unmodified version of FIFA?? By default the FA Cup is not played over two legs and I cannot see anything in the default data that would cause what you are seeing.

Each tie is played as a single leg. If a match is drawn, there is a replay, usually at the ground of the team who were away for the first game. Drawn replays are now settled with extra time and penalty shootouts, though until the 1990s further replays would be played until one team was victorious
 

Recrero152

Reserve Team
Yep, samething to me, played Reading and got the first round match to be a draw and all of a sudden, I was out of the cup, despite that I won the second match
 

Champion757

Youth Team
What do you have to say about all this StevePitts? More than 1 person seem to have this issue. Have you noticed this? Did you test it?

Can there be a fix for this?

Is this issue an issue in other leagues in the game besides FA Cup?
 

pas7k

Club Supporter
i checked it and i guess this could be fixed from creation master it has some options there but i m nt goin to do anythin cause simple i m not the best in this and dont want to mess up my career file!
 

Champion757

Youth Team
Recrero152;2795393 said:
Although nothing might have to be done for it, maybe it'll be fixed in the EA patch?

Is there an EA patch for PC in the works?

There seems to be a lot of career and league bugs, like this one. Hope they release a patch to fix it as well as one to fix the CPU in-game subs bug.
 

StevePitts

Senior Squad
Champion757;2794711 said:
So what should have happened? StevePitts, you say that by default the FA Cup is not played over two legs. So basically, that's supposed to be a knockout round? And if his match ended a 2-2 draw, it should have went to extra time instead of going to the second leg?
That is the way it has always worked and I don't see anything in the data to suggest that it is different in FIFA 10 (or FIFA 09). However, I've only recently started with FIFA 10 (having lost interest in FIFA 08 nearly two years ago) so I may be out of date. Perhaps EA have tried to implement replays somehow, and messed it up (now there'd be a surprise!!)

Champion757 said:
Which leagues / tournaments in FIFA 10 have 1st and 2nd leg playoffs?
The League Cup in England has a two leg playoff, and I see that in the fixtures table for my manager mode (first season, playing as Hereford) but the FA Cup has not yet started so I don't see any results, just the fixtures. I will have to experiment and see if this is a deliberate attempt to introduce replays to the FA Cup, but if so they've not done the same thing for the League Cup because I see games decided on penalties. Perhaps they've only done this for the manager's team though.

pas7k;2794775 said:
Each tie is played as a single leg. If a match is drawn, there is a replay
That is the real world situation but FIFA has never (in my experience, dating back to FIFA 99) attempted to emulate replays, the games have always gone to penalties. Is this something that changed this year (or last, I didn't buy FIFA 09)??

Champion757;2795123 said:
Have you noticed this? Did you test it?
See above, but I don't see anything in the data that might account for it, the structures are (virtually) identical to FIFA 08, so if they have implemented replays that is being handled in the game code somehow.

Champion757 said:
Can there be a fix for this?
Difficult to say until I can see how it manifests itself in the manager mode data file.

Champion757 said:
Is this issue an issue in other leagues in the game besides FA Cup?
Again, since I don't see anything in the data to control such behaviour it is impossible to say which leagues are affected. I have a Johnson's Paint Trophy game coming up so will deliberately attempt to draw that one and see what happens.

pas7k;2795227 said:
i checked it and i guess this could be fixed from creation master it has some options there but i m nt goin to do anythin cause simple i m not the best in this and dont want to mess up my career file!
Anything you do with Creation Master won't affect the career data until (at least) the start of the next season.

Would you be willing to send me your manager mode file so that I can see what the internal data structures look like?? If so, then you should be able to find my email address from this page in the public EAFFAnalyser documentation (or you can just use the 'send email' option that you get when you click on my name in the left hand pane here, but that doesn't allow sending attachments, so you'd have to send me your email address so that I can reply with the address to send to). If you've not modified the game data at all then just your 'B. Manager - xxxxxx' file will suffice, but please ZIP it up (or add to some other archive) first as that helps ensure the integrity of the data that reaches me.

Recrero152;2795393 said:
Although nothing might have to be done for it, maybe it'll be fixed in the EA patch?
Even if there is to be a patch, and I seriously doubt that, then what chance they'll fix a bug like this?? After all, in my limited playing time I've already found half a dozen long-standing bugs that I've reported to EA, some dating back to FIFA 06 and many of them just as fundamental as this one (eg. the fact that all players on your team get their attribute XP reset whenever you sign a new player)
 

pas7k

Club Supporter
StevePitts;2796268 said:
The League Cup in England has a two leg playoff, and I see that in the fixtures table for my manager mode (first season, playing as Hereford) but the FA Cup has not yet started so I don't see any results, just the fixtures. I will have to experiment and see if this is a deliberate attempt to introduce replays to the FA Cup, but if so they've not done the same thing for the League Cup because I see games decided on penalties. Perhaps they've only done this for the manager's team though.

How is it possible that some games have a 2nd leg and some to be decided on penalties in ur manager mode?

In real world League Cup games in all rounds are single mathces with extra time and a penalty shootout if necessary except those in semi finals that are played over two matches with the aggregate score being used to determine the winners.

In my manager mode there is just one leg and if it ends in a draw then it goes to penalties as it should be. I dont know what happens if u reach semi finals though.



 

Champion757

Youth Team
pas7k;2796309 said:
In my manager mode there is just one leg and if it ends in a draw then it goes to penalties as it should be.

Do you mean go to extra time to 120 minutes then to penalties? Or straight to penalties after 90 minutes?
 


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