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El Tel gone if Leeds Lose to Bolton?

Alex

sKIp_E
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It's been rumoured that the Leeds board will pay out Terry Venables, and start looking for a replacement if Leeds lose to Bolton on Tuesday.

The problem seems to be with the ~60million debt, how will Leeds afford to pay out El Tel, AND negotiate with a new manager?

Im still hoping El Tel goes, he's done nothing for us..

Cheers
sKIp_E
 

ryan_goal

Senior Squad
i always think David is a great manager. and now they have to pay for the biggest mistake they've ever made in recent years...:kader:
 

Digitarius

Senior Squad
Terry Venables had come to the wrong club at the wrong time.

On his own, Venables is a decent manager who has a very decent knowledge of the game. He is tactically sound and has contacts worldwide.

However, he had his hands tied from day one at Elland Road. He was forced to sell Rio Ferdinand, arguably his best player, to rivals Manchester United, and wasn't given much, if any, money to spend. The only meaningful addition to his squad had been Nick Barmby (and you can say Lucic on loan and Paul Okon) - and he's been injured now.

He hasn't been helped by horrendous injury problems to many of his main stars.
He hasn't been helped by loss of form to key players such as Bowyer, Viduka, Kewell, Harte, etc..
He hasn't been helped by the lack of harmony in the camp, with Viduka having a row with Kewell (alleged), Dacourt mouthing off, Batty playing in the reserves.
He hasn't won over the fans, and the chairmen isn't giving him the best of support.

A defeat against Bolton would surely signal the end of El Tel. Leeds simply needs some injection of something into their team at the moment, or they could be staring at a trip to Grimsby next term.
 

The Drovers Dog

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' Terry Venables had come to the wrong club at the wrong time. '

Agreed, the rot started to set in at leeds last January after they started to fade away after Xmas, perhaps it was a Psychological block after the previous Champions League matches, with the squad realising that they just didn't have the cutting edge to equal the Madrids and Bayern Munichs of Euro Football. --
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The injury problem is a major factor, and there is also a major personal battle going on between El Tel, Dacourt and Batty.

There is also the fact that Risedales's mob, the financial gamblers and stock market opportunists are now baying for blood, and are demanding financial returns from the Club, and alas, this is the terrible price that must be paid whence Sport and stock markets lock horns, it is a matter of ultimate success or ultimate financial destruction for failure as happened to a few Clubs from Serie A this season.
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I have always despised the inclusion of the high rolling financiers in the World of Football who hop on board for quick time profits and short term success at whatever the cost to the traditions and long term stability of the Clubs, and i have always opted for the development of local talent and a tighter transfer market system, and as proved time and time again, success can't be bought over the long term via the injection of massive funds.
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Getting back to sKIp_E's post, i was reading up somewhere or other, plus the fact that my old man, ' A die hard leeds fan' who is now going berserk over the current situation, that Risedale has called an "Extraordinary" board meeting today,Tuesday GMT about the Club and mainly i would think El Tel. So depending on what happens at the Bolton match could be the deciding factor.
 

ryan_goal

Senior Squad
Originally posted by precise
If Leeds sack El Tel, maybe they could promoto Brian Kidd up to the managers spot.

dont think so. Leeds fans dont like Brian Kidd if u remember what happened last season.
 

Alex

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Originally posted by Digitarius
Terry Venables had come to the wrong club at the wrong time.

On his own, Venables is a decent manager who has a very decent knowledge of the game. He is tactically sound and has contacts worldwide.

However, he had his hands tied from day one at Elland Road. He was forced to sell Rio Ferdinand, arguably his best player, to rivals Manchester United, and wasn't given much, if any, money to spend. The only meaningful addition to his squad had been Nick Barmby (and you can say Lucic on loan and Paul Okon) - and he's been injured now.

He hasn't been helped by horrendous injury problems to many of his main stars.
He hasn't been helped by loss of form to key players such as Bowyer, Viduka, Kewell, Harte, etc..
He hasn't been helped by the lack of harmony in the camp, with Viduka having a row with Kewell (alleged), Dacourt mouthing off, Batty playing in the reserves.
He hasn't won over the fans, and the chairmen isn't giving him the best of support.

A defeat against Bolton would surely signal the end of El Tel. Leeds simply needs some injection of something into their team at the moment, or they could be staring at a trip to Grimsby next term.
Have u watched ANY leeds matches this year?? Kewell has been their best player all year...so this stuff aobut him losing form is way off.
Viduka hasnt been in good form for quite a while, and el Tel should have sold him instead of Keane.
Bowyer can be a great player, but seems to be bad in losing teams.
Batty is playing reserves because thats wher El Tel put him. El tel brought that one on himself, but really, in a full strength Leeds team, i think that Batty doesnt deserve a start.

That Kewell and Viduka thing was just because Viduka wants to get out of the place.

As DD said, the PLC often ruins the club. Leeds, if they remained patient, and kept on DO, and kept things going like they were, were BOUND to get some silverware sooner or later. They were high end finishers in all compeitions, and so it was a matter of time.

But as soon as the board started worrying about cash, the club fell apart.

Basically if Leeds had gone that tiny bit better for the 2nd half of last season, and qualified for CL ahead of Newcastle, DO would still be manager, and Leeds would still be going well. Rio and Jonny Woodgate would be at CB together (Rio left because he wanted to play CL), and not many teams have CB's that compare to that. Add Mills, and an inform Harte (or Matteo), and there's a pretty awesome backline...hmmm "if only" the worst words in the english language ;)

Leeds were so close to becoming a "BIG" club, and the PLC getting its moneys worth..Now they're going to be a nothing club, all because a couple of men in suits got greedy..

Cheers
sKIp_E
 

Alex

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Originally posted by ryan_goal
dont think so. Leeds fans dont like Brian Kidd if u remember what happened last season.

No way! There are better managers around then Brian Kidd...hell, id rather Eddy Gray take over from Assistant...or even Roy Aitken take over from reserves...Kidd is a little like El Tel actually...Alrite coach, but i dont think he is a manager..

Cheers
sKIp_E
 

maddog1983

Starting XI
Rumour at liverpool is Phil thompson may be offered the leeds job as his wage would be less significant then mny other big name managers ... Also he is said to have nejoyed his success with the liverpool first team when GH was sick... he also did very well for liverpool .. it wouldnt surprise me if he got offered the job .. he could be just what they need (only robbie fowler wont be to happy big nose is back)
 

Digitarius

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Have u watched ANY leeds matches this year??

Yes, quite a few, actually.

Kewell has been their best player all year...so this stuff aobut him losing form is way off.

Kewell might be Leeds best player but he is off-form. He is no-way as good as he was a few seasons ago when he was arguably the best player in Britain.

Agreed, the rot started to set in at leeds last January after they started to fade away after Xmas, perhaps it was a Psychological block after the previous Champions League matches, with the squad realising that they just didn't have the cutting edge to equal the Madrids and Bayern Munichs of Euro Football. --

A lot also stems to the fact that Leeds have gone to the top, or near the top. Teams now look at them and don't underestimate them, and try to work out tactics to counter Leeds. It is difficult to get to the top, but it's even harder to stay there. Leeds have proven this the hard way.

No way! There are better managers around then Brian Kidd...hell, id rather Eddy Gray take over from Assistant...or even Roy Aitken take over from reserves...Kidd is a little like El Tel actually...Alrite coach, but i dont think he is a manager..

Brian Kidd has proven that he is a less than average manager during his dire spell at Blackburn, where he brought the club down despite many signings, such as Nathan Blake, Ashley Ward, etc..
 


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