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mjordan23

Club Supporter
Agression should be tuned in pes2....I noticed that many defenders and midfielders have very low agression rating compared to strikers.....ex Frank de Boer had only 55 while Vieri had 90....
 

bulldrig

Youth Team
Just about everthing needs some editing.

In Liverpool cuse of Haman`s high teamwork he follows up in offense like he was Gerrard.
 

francescoP1

Club Supporter
does anyone of you know how do the aggression and teamwork attributes, as well as the reaction, interception and scoring special attributes specifficaly affect a player in PES2?
 

Han

Senior Squad
I ll give it a try :)

Teamwork: If low, he is in the way of his teammates, positionally bad. He also will not make usefull runs into open space.
Do you know, that when in the formation->substitute menu, you can see all teamwork values when pressing O ?

Reaction: when high it can be handy with rebounds (example) but you can think of other things, like being faster when tackling a player who is about to slip past you.

Interception: Stepping in or sliding more succesfull when the opponent passes the ball close to your player. This will also position your defender better to be able to do that.

Scoring: Even with the highest possible attributes a player can miss, because the CPU adds a random value to the direction of the shot (think about free kicks: you think you shoot it the same way as your previous shot, but the shot still goes different!).
That random value will be decreased when you have scoring ability. So your chance to score is higher, assuming that you steer the shot in the correct direction.
 

francescoP1

Club Supporter
Reaction: when high it can be handy with rebounds

err... i was reffering to the "reaction" special attribute:/

as far as teamwork is concerned, are you saying that it overwrites the "attack" attribute? because from what i understand, attack is the equivelant of the "off the ball" stat in CM. i have also reached the conclusion that it is in no way related to the "teamwork" stat in Cm(which determines how much a player will pass the ball to his teamates without going on his own)
also what you said about pressing "o" in the formation menu, i didn't know what this values represented so i asked in the forum and someone said that these values change with time and according to your formation and they can be very usefull when you want to see how a newlly aquired player in the ML fits into your formation.
the reason i' m going on about Cm stats so much, is because i am trying to put together a CM to PES conversion table which i would find very helpfull for editing.
for the scoring special attribute what you are saying sounds very clever and correct as such, but in the manual it is writen that the player "performs well in key plays in front of the goal"
finally i have a couple of other questions: does the positioning special attribute apply to defenders as well as attacking players?
and
does the outside special attribute determine whether a player can make plays along the outside of the pitch, or that he can shout with the outside of his foot? i'm asking this because i have seen and heard both of these interpretation around

P.S. thanks Han for taking the time to put forward your views and your general contribution to this forum.
 

Han

Senior Squad
Originally posted by francescoP1
err... i was reffering to the "reaction" special attribute:/

I thought already you did, because the other questions were also about that. My answer stays the same :)

as far as teamwork is concerned, are you saying that it overwrites the "attack" attribute? because from what i understand, attack is the equivelant of the "off the ball" stat in CM. i have also reached the conclusion that it is in no way related to the "teamwork" stat in Cm(which determines how much a player will pass the ball to his teamates without going on his own)
also what you said about pressing "o" in the formation menu, i didn't know what this values represented so i asked in the forum and someone said that these values change with time and according to your formation and they can be very usefull when you want to see how a newlly aquired player in the ML fits into your formation.
the reason i' m going on about Cm stats so much, is because i am trying to put together a CM to PES conversion table which i would find very helpfull for editing.

Hmm... very difficult to compare, but I think you must not see low-teamwork as overwriting attack. It's more like the positioning thing in CM
What the guy wrote about that teamwork is roughly spoken correct. The new player gets point(s) for every match he plays. Also a player who is almost always on the bench has low teamwork. BUT pay attention to the two different forms of teamwork: You see one form of teamwork if you press O.
But also there is teamwork in the players attribute.
They differ often! The one in the attribute is an indication how good he can be. See it as a percentage of the maximum possible teamwork he is capable of (which you get if you play always and play on the favorite position). The teamwork when pressing O is the actual, absolute teamwork.

for the scoring special attribute what you are saying sounds very clever and correct as such, but in the manual it is writen that the player "performs well in key plays in front of the goal"
I don't want to sound silly, but maybe they don't want to give too much away. Scoring is doing well in front of the goal ;)

finally i have a couple of other questions: does the positioning special attribute apply to defenders as well as attacking players?
and
Yes! See above at the teamwork-part...

does the outside special attribute determine whether a player can make plays along the outside of the pitch, or that he can shout with the outside of his foot? i'm asking this because i have seen and heard both of these interpretation around

Defenitly the latter: Outside of the foot.


P.S. thanks Han for taking the time to put forward your views and your general contribution to this forum.

You are welcome :)
 

mjordan23

Club Supporter
central defenders

Again I have something to say about the aggression stats...I noticed that a lot of central defenders and central midfielders have way to low aggression stats and tuning this will make the game tighter. Some of you say pes2 is to easy and I added 10 points to the defence skill of the players those who had to low defence stats at found the AI much harder to break down now.

I am going to try to increase to teamwork stats, because I think the AI plays to much one-and-one football (there`s is only one Maradona, remember??).......
 


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