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[DOWNLOAD] Classic Patch 14

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Mertinhooo

Club Supporter
I think I hear it before every launch, while it wasn't always necessary the case.
hello, Skoczek. I want to ask you a question. I wonder if efootball 2024 Mykhaylo Mudryk can you turn your face to fifa 23? But I want you to give it to me in texture and fbx format. I can pay you for this. Is there any chance you could do this for me?
 

GIGGIRIVA

Starting XI
I think I hear it before every launch, while it wasn't always necessary the case.
But this round they hit rock bottom. Just go to social media where the product is literally grabbed by everyone. There isn't that split of worshipers and opponents. Now almost everyone is against it. For new one hopes for a different gameplay dynamic. Not so much the playgame but more the being inside the game. I read an article some time ago where it was explained how the world of video games is abandoning football in the sense of development. It may seem like a paradox but it's true. Football games have less and less to do with football, with tactics, with athletic gesture. Even Football Manager in this sense has never dared to display matches in FIFA or PES style. Football Manager still has low quality 3D figures. They don't want to dare, it doesn't suit them. This abandonment is due to the voracity of money in football today. They ask for more and more money for rights, they set more and more limits and the producers have no way of doing anything further because it would cost more and games already currently cost a lot. They stay still and earn an income. If they dare, they won't be included in the costs because they have to price a game for 150 euros versus the current 80-100 euros. An enormity and an absurdity for an annual game. I don't know how right this article is but it gives some points for reflection...
 

GIGGIRIVA

Starting XI
If a videogame production company created a game without licenses (fake team names and players) we would probably have a game in our hands that reconciles us with the sport of football. A game with more realistic on-field dynamics. But people want to play with Messi, with Ronaldo, with Real Madrid, with Manchester. These things cost those who create video games. If a good part of the budget goes away to have a name of a player or a team, the product tends to expire and become cheap and arcade.
 

Skoczek

Fan Favourite
But this round they hit rock bottom. Just go to social media where the product is literally grabbed by everyone. There isn't that split of worshipers and opponents. Now almost everyone is against it. For new one hopes for a different gameplay dynamic. Not so much the playgame but more the being inside the game. I read an article some time ago where it was explained how the world of video games is abandoning football in the sense of development. It may seem like a paradox but it's true. Football games have less and less to do with football, with tactics, with athletic gesture. Even Football Manager in this sense has never dared to display matches in FIFA or PES style. Football Manager still has low quality 3D figures. They don't want to dare, it doesn't suit them. This abandonment is due to the voracity of money in football today. They ask for more and more money for rights, they set more and more limits and the producers have no way of doing anything further because it would cost more and games already currently cost a lot. They stay still and earn an income. If they dare, they won't be included in the costs because they have to price a game for 150 euros versus the current 80-100 euros. An enormity and an absurdity for an annual game. I don't know how right this article is but it gives some points for reflection...
Telling me to go to social media is like telling a mouse to enter a lion's jaw - I feel competent enough to have my opinion to it and people have a memory of a goldfish, so they quickly forget what pissed off before and think nothing pissed then more than the current thing.
I know what I'm saying, as I put over 600 h in FIFA 23, spent no money on FIFA Points, built an outstanding team in FUT (although now outstanding is normal so it's not outstanding), played a ton of matches with friends in Pro Clubs, played some Career Mode and Volta and modding the game.
These friends have FC 24 and I watch playing them on Discord. I wait for release to test it myself, but I wouldn't tell it's worse than FIFA 23.

At the end of the day, I don't know why I am elaborating. You won't buy or play this, regardless of what I'm saying. And I don't want to ignite third argument in 4 days, I want to remain in this forum.
 

GIGGIRIVA

Starting XI
Telling me to go to social media is like telling a mouse to enter a lion's jaw - I feel competent enough to have my opinion to it and people have a memory of a goldfish, so they quickly forget what pissed off before and think nothing pissed then more than the current thing.
I know what I'm saying, as I put over 600 h in FIFA 23, spent no money on FIFA Points, built an outstanding team in FUT (although now outstanding is normal so it's not outstanding), played a ton of matches with friends in Pro Clubs, played some Career Mode and Volta and modding the game.
These friends have FC 24 and I watch playing them on Discord. I wait for release to test it myself, but I wouldn't tell it's worse than FIFA 23.

At the end of the day, I don't know why I am elaborating. You won't buy or play this, regardless of what I'm saying. And I don't want to ignite third argument in 4 days, I want to remain in this forum.
But we are not discussing ... we are chatting XD is different. It is like sitting in the pub in front of a beer. the same. I also never spent and I managed to good have teams on FIFA Mobile. But I have never really been able to compete for something interesting because you find the person who spent the GDP of the Zimbabwe in packages. There ... raise your hands and gives up. If you happen to you the YouTuber who lives by splitting and posting videos you are screwed. A 5-0 is sure.
 

GIGGIRIVA

Starting XI
I'm doing a search. EA and FIFA did not reach a renewal agreement because FIFA wanted 2.5 billion dollars spread over 10 years, therefore 250 million dollars every year. EA pays 80 million pounds every year to the Premier League to have players' names, logos and stadiums. I still can't find anything about the other leagues. Every year EA is as if it bought a team of top players. Worse than Chelsea XD These expenses have a significant impact on the concrete development of the game.
 

Skoczek

Fan Favourite
But we are not discussing ... we are chatting XD is different. It is like sitting in the pub in front of a beer. the same. I also never spent and I managed to good have teams on FIFA Mobile. But I have never really been able to compete for something interesting because you find the person who spent the GDP of the Zimbabwe in packages. There ... raise your hands and gives up. If you happen to you the YouTuber who lives by splitting and posting videos you are screwed. A 5-0 is sure.
GDP of Zimbabwe, you mean 5 quid? :D
I haven't played FIFA Mobile for years, so I can't tell how the thing was there
Maybe I'm weird, but I don't give an f. What I can agree with is that you can't really take this game seriously and have fun at the same time. For years, as building squads became more linear, to guarantee winning, you basically have to be a b***h to another.
Now I hope with playstyles it change. People praise finesse shots of Antoine Griezmann or Alex Morgan. May it change with updates I hope not.
I won't raise my hand, I'd start to sing Take Me Out or waive a paper fan. Or in FIFA standards, one day play online with squad full of tall players or turn Sardar Azmoun to best player of all time with evolutions ;)
 

GIGGIRIVA

Starting XI
GDP of Zimbabwe, you mean 5 quid? :D
I haven't played FIFA Mobile for years, so I can't tell how the thing was there
Maybe I'm weird, but I don't give an f. What I can agree with is that you can't really take this game seriously and have fun at the same time. For years, as building squads became more linear, to guarantee winning, you basically have to be a b***h to another.
Now I hope with playstyles it change. People praise finesse shots of Antoine Griezmann or Alex Morgan. May it change with updates I hope not.
I won't raise my hand, I'd start to sing Take Me Out or waive a paper fan. Or in FIFA standards, one day play online with squad full of tall players or turn Sardar Azmoun to best player of all time with evolutions ;)
Yes, exactly, let's remember that it's always a game, nothing is serious. But that game costs 80-100 euros every year. In a year they are not many but they are still a significant amount for a game. In the end everything revolves around that point. The sun of the question, where everything orbits around, is... for 100 euros I want more. Much more and more. That's all. Then, personally, the last FIFA I played was FIFA 18 on the PC. Since then I'm playing retrogames. I have the 16 but I prefer the 14. But it's still the question of a fan who still cares a little about the series. Even if they are doing everything to make me fall out of love.
 

Skoczek

Fan Favourite
Yes, exactly, let's remember that it's always a game, nothing is serious. But that game costs 80-100 euros every year. In a year they are not many but they are still a significant amount for a game. In the end everything revolves around that point. The sun of the question, where everything orbits around, is... for 100 euros I want more. Much more and more. That's all. Then, personally, the last FIFA I played was FIFA 18 on the PC. Since then I'm playing retrogames. I have the 16 but I prefer the 14. But it's still the question of a fan who still cares a little about the series. Even if they are doing everything to make me fall out of love.
I'll go a bit off-topic here.
Well, I cannot count how much money I spent on FIFAs not only on PC, but for Xbox 360 as well, they take my entire shelf.
But 80? 100!? FIFA isn't worth such money, no game alone is worth so much to spend the equivalent of 100 dollars or euro in my book.
This is a price for full-fledged collector editions, with art books, soundtracks on discs, figurines, albums with concept arts, things having objective value.
Which few hundred points, loan cards and early access are not.
But it's definitely not the standard price. Until FIFA 22, on PC in Poland it was around 50 euros. Now on nextgen it's 259 PLN retail - around 60 euros.
Ultimate Editions are for impatient and as always, impatient people pay more for having stuff quicker.
 

ukwe

Youth Team
If a videogame production company created a game without licenses (fake team names and players) we would probably have a game in our hands that reconciles us with the sport of football. A game with more realistic on-field dynamics. But people want to play with Messi, with Ronaldo, with Real Madrid, with Manchester. These things cost those who create video games. If a good part of the budget goes away to have a name of a player or a team, the product tends to expire and become cheap and arcade.
That could be a great idea, something like tennis elbow: a highly editable game with great gameplay.
I'm doing a search. EA and FIFA did not reach a renewal agreement because FIFA wanted 2.5 billion dollars spread over 10 years, therefore 250 million dollars every year. EA pays 80 million pounds every year to the Premier League to have players' names, logos and stadiums. I still can't find anything about the other leagues. Every year EA is as if it bought a team of top players. Worse than Chelsea XD These expenses have a significant impact on the concrete development of the game.
And to think that the arguably greatest football game of all time (PES 5/ PES 6) didn't even have the premier league.
 

GIGGIRIVA

Starting XI
I'll go a bit off-topic here.
Well, I cannot count how much money I spent on FIFAs not only on PC, but for Xbox 360 as well, they take my entire shelf.
But 80? 100!? FIFA isn't worth such money, no game alone is worth so much to spend the equivalent of 100 dollars or euro in my book.
This is a price for full-fledged collector editions, with art books, soundtracks on discs, figurines, albums with concept arts, things having objective value.
Which few hundred points, loan cards and early access are not.
But it's definitely not the standard price. Until FIFA 22, on PC in Poland it was around 50 euros. Now on nextgen it's 259 PLN retail - around 60 euros.
Ultimate Editions are for impatient and as always, impatient people pay more for having stuff quicker.
fully agree with everything. There are those who consider video games to be on a par with a record, first pressing, by a musical band. The problem is that not only does the collector's piece cost what it should cost but the regular version is also going up. Here in Italy Fifa costs 70 euros for PCs and 80 for consoles. I understand the passions but an annual game at that price is too much. I spent thousands of euros on my Queen collection. But a record doesn't come out every year so my spending is spread over about 25 years. I spent 200 euros in 2003 on a Freddie Mercury box set which is now worth 600 euros. But these things, like certain books, action figures and other things, we know that increase in price over the years. But a video game is already forgotten after a year. I agree they are absurd prices.
 

GIGGIRIVA

Starting XI
That could be a great idea, something like tennis elbow: a highly editable game with great gameplay.

And to think that the arguably greatest football game of all time (PES 5/ PES 6) didn't even have the premier league.
Football is hungry for money which often also affects the connected and offered products. In Italy the TV rights are in the hands of DAZN. I won't tell you the problems there are. The service is poor and often absent because in Italy we still have a third world internet line, we are behind in terms of infrastructure. Pure fiber isn't everywhere. It often means destroying medieval cities and centuries-old pavements. But they sold the rights to DAZN because it offered more than Sky (satellite TV)
 

Skoczek

Fan Favourite
fully agree with everything. There are those who consider video games to be on a par with a record, first pressing, by a musical band. The problem is that not only does the collector's piece cost what it should cost but the regular version is also going up. Here in Italy Fifa costs 70 euros for PCs and 80 for consoles. I understand the passions but an annual game at that price is too much. I spent thousands of euros on my Queen collection. But a record doesn't come out every year so my spending is spread over about 25 years. I spent 200 euros in 2003 on a Freddie Mercury box set which is now worth 600 euros. But these things, like certain books, action figures and other things, we know that increase in price over the years. But a video game is already forgotten after a year. I agree they are absurd prices.
Not every video game is worthless after its launch, in a case of many of them it's the opposite, but yeah annual ones like sports, dance and racing games after a few years usually end in thrift stores for someone mad to pay any money for it. Someone like...me.
And such prices doesn't stop companies like 2K from squeezing every penny possible from microtransactions and in-game ads.
 

Skoczek

Fan Favourite
Football is hungry for money which often also affects the connected and offered products. In Italy the TV rights are in the hands of DAZN. I won't tell you the problems there are. The service is poor and often absent because in Italy we still have a third world internet line, we are behind in terms of infrastructure. Pure fiber isn't everywhere. It often means destroying medieval cities and centuries-old pavements. But they sold the rights to DAZN because it offered more than Sky (satellite TV)
Similarly or even worse is in England, where no party has rights to every PL match. Even if you somehow were rich enough to pay several subscriptions, it's impossible to watch all PL matches, some aren't broadcasted at all, so paradoxically the easiest, cheapest and most convenient way to access everything is putting up a Jolly Roger.
At least here in Poland there is an order for Ekstraklasa, Canal+ has rights to transmit all of matches and put on Canal+ Online, but for Polish Cup there are the same shenanigans, especially at primal stages. But ofc it's easier as the demand is local.
 

GIGGIRIVA

Starting XI
Similarly or even worse is in England, where no party has rights to every PL match. Even if you somehow were rich enough to pay several subscriptions, it's impossible to watch all PL matches, some aren't broadcasted at all, so paradoxically the easiest, cheapest and most convenient way to access everything is putting up a Jolly Roger.
At least here in Poland there is an order for Ekstraklasa, Canal+ has rights to transmit all of matches and put on Canal+ Online, but for Polish Cup there are the same shenanigans, especially at primal stages. But ofc it's easier as the demand is local.
Ironically, in Italy, the games can be seen better on Jolly Roger than on the official channels. XD Even if they have the commentary in Arabic or Chinese.
 

serhiym1994

Youth Team
Hello Giggi, no pressure, just wondering if would you like to make the last two decades (1900s & 1890s). I just noticed that there will be 10-year anniversary of the patch for 3 weeks. And I think that the 'completed timeline' may be a symbolic and great present for that date xD.
 

GIGGIRIVA

Starting XI
Hello Giggi, no pressure, just wondering if would you like to make the last two decades (1900s & 1890s). I just noticed that there will be 10-year anniversary of the patch for 3 weeks. And I think that the 'completed timeline' may be a symbolic and great present for that date xD.
When I can. It is not currently in the pipeline. It involves doing myriads of research and I don't have the way, the desire or the strength to do it. Theoretically we are still stuck at 1910 because 1880 only has one competition made to make people understand the potential of the new system of individual seasons.
 


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