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[DOWNLOAD] Classic Patch 14

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  • ITA

    Votes: 4 6.1%

  • ENG

    Votes: 40 60.6%

  • FRA

    Votes: 2 3.0%

  • GER

    Votes: 3 4.5%

  • ESP

    Votes: 17 25.8%
  • Total voters
    66
  • Poll closed .
mattemazza

mattemazza

Club Supporter
V.K said:
Nike Aerow EPL might need "The F.A. Premier League" under the lion (if you care :D)




With T90 Ascente as well for example, there is no Barclays logo, maybe PES makers didn't like the brand.

Also, just curious:
- do you plan to also include winter (hi-vis) versions)?
- can we also add Nike T90 (RED) for 2009-10?
- what is the plan for the teams which did not have 1 ball per league (e.g. Bayern's adidas but Borussia's Derbystar) and other leagues' teams (e.g. Porto, Ajax, CSKA, Anderlecht, Zurich, etc)?
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If i remember well, the Nike T90 (RED) for 2009-10 is already in the patch
 
V.K

V.K

Starting XI
mattemazza said:
If i remember well, the Nike T90 (RED) for 2009-10 is already in the patch
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It is, indeed. Just like most of the balls above are as well. Simply confirming that it stays in the revised balls collection.

In fact, I think rebuilding the balls collection to include as many historical pieces as possible and maintain the "football encyclopedia" that is CP is a great idea, for example:

adidas Terrapass, used a lot in 2008-2010



adidas F50, like the one used in UEFA Cup 2006 final

Franck Queudrue - UEFA Cup Final 2006 - Middlesbrough FC
 
GIGGIRIVA

GIGGIRIVA

Starting XI
V.K said:
Nike Aerow EPL might need "The F.A. Premier League" under the lion (if you care :D)




With T90 Ascente as well for example, there is no Barclays logo, maybe PES makers didn't like the brand.

Also, just curious:
- do you plan to also include winter (hi-vis) versions)?
- can we also add Nike T90 (RED) for 2009-10?
- what is the plan for the teams which did not have 1 ball per league (e.g. Bayern's adidas but Borussia's Derbystar) and other leagues' teams (e.g. Porto, Ajax, CSKA, Anderlecht, Zurich, etc)?
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HiVis are already present someone. I update them with 1024 or 2048 textures depending on the balloon. I don't put the specific ones for the championship because I find them useless. One without logo. Ascente I do not think to add it. The various Aerow instead yes because they were also used as default balls by teams that did not yet have the only ball for the championship.

Nike T90 Red same speech as HiVis. Only one (already present in the patch. Also this update to 1024

For the Germans, French and Italians I will invent something ... I have some Europass balls. Teamgaists are in short supply for the models I have. I have something but I need to check. Probably, as it happened in reality, someone will use the balls of the WC or European Championships. It depends on what is out there. I don't create these balls, I use what the web offers.

The other nations outside the Top 5 will not have changes. They will use the balloons that are already set up.
 
V.K

V.K

Starting XI
GIGGIRIVA said:
The other nations outside the Top 5 will not have changes. They will use the balloons that are already set up.
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I was thinking the balls collection could really use a "remaster" and we could add more authentic balls from the past. If you want.
Currently all the 2004-05 season teams for example are using the starred adidas ball.
But in reality there was much more variety even in UCL (can be assigned with RM as specificball_teamID_uclID_textures) when teams used balls of their personal choice:








So potentially Chelsea can use Umbro ball in UCL 2004-05, but Nike Aerow EPL in EPL.


Other historical balls like Uefa Cup can also be either added to the imgame selection or assigned as specificballs (for example, only when Zenit plays Rangers at City of Manchester stadium as specificball_127964_0_0_127962_246_textures)


I believe @DeWoo can also supply a lot of authentic ball textures if you need them.

Balls are important :)
 
GIGGIRIVA

GIGGIRIVA

Starting XI
V.K said:
I was thinking the balls collection could really use a "remaster" and we could add more authentic balls from the past. If you want.
Currently all the 2004-05 season teams for example are using the starred adidas ball.
But in reality there was much more variety even in UCL (can be assigned with RM as specificball_teamID_uclID_textures) when teams used balls of their personal choice:








So potentially Chelsea can use Umbro ball in UCL 2004-05, but Nike Aerow EPL in EPL.


Other historical balls like Uefa Cup can also be either added to the imgame selection or assigned as specificballs (for example, only when Zenit plays Rangers at City of Manchester stadium as specificball_127964_0_0_127962_246_textures)


I believe @DeWoo can also supply a lot of authentic ball textures if you need them.

Balls are important :)
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I don't need all these balls. I need a different ball from the one set up for UCL for the top 5 leagues. Stop. I don't need the rest, it takes space for more useful balls. If the premier has his ball, I don't need an Umbro ball.
Then as already said other times. The specific balls for teams ONLY for Italian teams. I'm Italian, I have more interest in that league. Of the others I don't mind having the specific balls with the team's logo and colors. Then, as already said many other times, I have to see the files. Traffic with thousands of files in the patch. I can't remember if I added a balloon if I don't see it in the CM. I don't add anything extra CM because they become "blind" files. and I need to see what I wear to be able to remember what's there and what's not. It is already a problem with specific faces. Every now and then ACICOG asks me if this player has a specific face for various teams or for a season and I don't know how to answer. I do not remember. I can't remember everything. I am not a robot.
 
GIGGIRIVA

GIGGIRIVA

Starting XI
V.K said:
Is this better? F10 conversion.
View attachment 111096

Also

Okay then, can we activate all possible ball slots for ingame selection?
So that everyone will be able to add the balls they need/like.

Personally I can do that myself, even if risking DB crashes, but others maybe can't.
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It would be more convenient to have that decent PES model for Teamgeist, Europass and Terrapass balls. I have the texture for the 2008 balloon at 2048 pixels. I could use many more textures with the same model.

There have been no more new ball slots for months, almost a year. I'm overwriting the Fifa 14 default balls

 
V.K

V.K

Starting XI
GIGGIRIVA said:
There have been no more new ball slots for months, almost a year. I'm overwriting the Fifa 14 default balls
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What is the max number we've achieved?

Also, here is a neat little idea. Giggi will probably say such details aren't important but :D :

Has anyone noticed how some players get booed by the fans of the opposing team in FIFA14?
For example Adebayor will get booed by Arsenal fans (remember how he left for Man City and then moved to Arsenal's rivals Tottenham).
So in DBmaster we can find this tiny table called player_grudgelove with 3 columns: playerid, emotional_teamid and level_of_emotion (which is always set to 1).

So if I understand this correctly, we can make e.g. Barcelona 00-01 boo Luis Figo (maybe 01-02, 02-03 etc as well, if the game allows that), Man Utd 09-10 boo Carlos Tevez, Tottenham fans booing Sol Campbell, Arsenal fans booing Ashley Cole and any other famous betrayals in the history of football :)
 
GIGGIRIVA

GIGGIRIVA

Starting XI
V.K said:
What is the max number we've achieved?

Also, here is a neat little idea. Giggi will probably say such details aren't important but :D :

Has anyone noticed how some players get booed by the fans of the opposing team in FIFA14?
For example Adebayor will get booed by Arsenal fans (remember how he left for Man City and then moved to Arsenal's rivals Tottenham).
So in DBmaster we can find this tiny table called player_grudgelove with 3 columns: playerid, emotional_teamid and level_of_emotion (which is always set to 1).

So if I understand this correctly, we can make e.g. Barcelona 00-01 boo Luis Figo (maybe 01-02, 02-03 etc as well, if the game allows that), Man Utd 09-10 boo Carlos Tevez, Tottenham fans booing Sol Campbell, Arsenal fans booing Ashley Cole and any other famous betrayals in the history of football :)
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The database holds 255 balloons, so ID 255. I hit that limit about a year ago. In fact, since then I have been overwriting the FIFA 14 default balls. I can still overwrite about 60 balloons.

It seems pointless to me to work on that issue.
The reasons:

1) Time and energy that could be better spent

2) Level of detail that does not interest me. The patch is not an era-based patch but is intended to revive 100+ years of football history. Such a high level can be done by those who patch on a specific season. On the patch it is totally useless given the amount of teams and players present. You stop on an epoch and that's it. I work over 100 years. You think of Tevez, I think that modification of the whistles can be done for Di Canio every time he meets a Roma (about 15 years of career). He Cantona from Leeds to Manchester for every year of his in Manchester. Laudrup, Vieri, Schuster, or any player who has played for both Celtic and Rangers since 1900. eg Mo Johnston. Or Denis Law or Meazza or Imre Schlosser, Puskas, Kocsis, Czibor and Kubala and any Hungarian players who flee in 1956. It's not a feasible thing.
 
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