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[Bruno Passarelli]

perfect! Thanks. This is the kind of help you need to go fast too. Are they all positioned according to the 2-3-5 pattern with these positions?

1 GK (Goalkeeper)
2 RB (Right BacK)
3 LB (Left Back)
4 RH (Right Half)
5 CH (Center Half)
6 LH (Left Half)
7 RW (Right Wing)
8 RI (Right Inside)
9 CF (Central Forward)
10 LI (Left Inside)
11 LW (Left Wing)

------------ 1 ------------

---- 2 -- ------------ 3 --------

4----------- 5 ----------- 6

------- 8---- ----10 -------

7 ---- -------9 ---- -----11

Most of times, yes! Depending on the source, a player could've been positioned elsewhere... Or depending of the year. One example: Feijó (Paulistano). I searched some lineups of final (or final games) of Paulista championship. He appeared as postion 7 and 11. So, I selected the position the player appeared more times during my research.

 

[Bruno Passarelli]

Giggi Riva and friends,

I attached here an excel file with 8 possible squads from Brazillian teams (1920-25 and 1925-30). Not all of them are complete, but at least we can have a "full" bench. I also attached the pictures I found (almost all players listed are there). If you have problems translating the subtitles, I can help you. I listed 8, but if it's too much, I am going to list here the reasons why I chose these teams ( 4 from São Paulo, 2 from Rio de Janeiro and 2 from Minas Gerais) and in the order of my humble opinion:

Paulistano 1925-30: the first great brazilian team with 11 Paulista titles in the first 30 championships (or so). Besides, Friedenreich played there and it was one of the first succesfull brazilian team overseas

América MG 1920-25: 10 times Mineiro champions in a row (1916-25)

Corinthians 1920-25: 6-time Paulista champions in the decade, including 3 in a row (1922-24). Neco is one of the greats in the team's history

Palestra Itália (from São Paulo state) 1925-30: 2-time Paulista champion in a row (1926-27), including a historycal win versus 100 goals Santos in 1927 "final". Besides, Heitor, Palmeiras (Palestra Itália had its name changed to Palmeiras due to WW II) topscorer until now, played for this team

Flamengo 1920-25: 2-time Carioca champions in a row (1920-21) and 3-time runnerup in a row (1922-24).

Santos 1925-30: Altough never champions, in 1927 they scored 100 goals in 16 games. Its attack had Feitiço and Araken

Vasco 1925-30: Champion or runnerup of Carioca from 1926-31 (except 1927).

Palestra Itália (from Minas Gerais state) 1925-30: after America MG dominance, and also having suffered it biggest loss to the rival (Atlético MG 9x2), they won 3 Mineiro championships in a row (1928-30) in the first decade of the team's existence (like Palmeiras in São Paulo, some years later they became Cruzeiro)

http://imgur.com/a/OgdjcIe

I forgot to mention: as far as I remember, only 3 players are in more than one team:

Kuntz (GK)
Amilcar (MF)
Araken (AT)

I put Kuntz and Araken in the starting eleven of the teams they played more time. About Amilcar, If I not mistaken, he is in both (Corinthians and Palestra Itália SP). If I can give you an advice, I would choose Corinthians.

 

[GIGGIRIVA]

I forgot to mention: as far as I remember, only 3 players are in more than one team:

Kuntz (GK)
Amilcar (MF)
Araken (AT)

I put Kuntz and Araken in the starting eleven of the teams they played more time. About Amilcar, If I not mistaken, he is in both (Corinthians and Palestra Itália SP). If I can give you an advice, I would choose Corinthians.

Thanks. If there is no tournament behind the players, they can also be on multiple teams. The goals between the various teams are not added together. I will probably do a mini tournament like I did for the 40s. A mini league round trip.

 

[Bruno Passarelli]

Giggi Riva, If you want (and nobody started it yet), I can do the same with teams from Argentina. It may take a little more time (to find the images), but I have a book with the lineups of all Argentinean Champions (per year) in final games.

 

[hmtr]

Here i post some links with line ups of matches from Corinthians in paulista championship of that time:

Paulistano 2 x 3 Corinthians - Paulista 1922

Em jogo válido pelo Paulista, o Corinthians enfrentou o Paulistano no dia 02 de julho de 1922. O confronto aconteceu às 16 horas no Estádio Estádio Club Athletico Paulistano (Estádio Jardim...

www.meutimao.com.br

other link with some matches of Paulistano in that period

Campeonato Paulista de 1925 - Auto Sport Club 1 x 2 Club Athletico Paulistano

FICHA TÉCNICA Auto Sport Club 1 x 2 Club Athletico Paulistano Partida realizada na data de 7 de junho de 1925, na Chácara da Floresta. Gols: Brasileiro (ASC) Filó e Netinho (CAP) Árbitro: Pausânias Pinto da Rocha. Auto: Hermes, Soares e Badó. Brasileiro, Sebastião e Munhoz. Laerte, De

historiadofutebol.com

C.A. Paulistano: Os reis do futebol

Fotos: Acervo do C.A. Paulistano Histórico O Club Athlético Paulistano é um clube poliesportivo brasileiro sediado em São Paulo, fundad...

reliquiasdofutebol.blogspot.com

Acervo do Coelho | America MG » 1915 – 1929: Hegemonia

Acervo histórico do grande America Futebol Clube, de Minas Gerais

acervodocoelho.com.br

Thanks for your dedication and believe in recreate football history.

 

[GIGGIRIVA]

Perfect guys. I start them immediately instead of the European teams 1920-25. Otherwise, too much data is added up and it becomes difficult to manage everything.

 

[GIGGIRIVA]

Giggi Riva, If you want (and nobody started it yet), I can do the same with teams from Argentina. It may take a little more time (to find the images), but I have a book with the lineups of all Argentinean Champions (per year) in final games.

for argentina i had seen the estudiantes of the 5 professors. There was a tread on the Bigsoccer forum where there was basic formation for 1925-30


----------------- E. Scandone ------------------- GK

------------- A. Nery --- R. Rodríguez ---------- CBs
A. Viola --------- U. Uslenghi ---- F. Pérez Escalá HVs

---------- A. Scopelli ------ M. Ferreira --------- IFs
-- M. Lauri ------- A. Zozaya ------- E. Guaita - WGs CF

Forgotten great teams

C.A. San Lorenzo de Almagro - 1946 - Argentina Titles: Argentina - Domestic Championship 1946 Formation: ----------------- Blazina -----------------...

www.bigsoccer.com

 

[Bruno Passarelli]

for argentina i had seen the estudiantes of the 5 professors. There was a tread on the Bigsoccer forum where there was basic formation for 1925-30


----------------- E. Scandone ------------------- GK

------------- A. Nery --- R. Rodríguez ---------- CBs
A. Viola --------- U. Uslenghi ---- F. Pérez Escalá HVs

---------- A. Scopelli ------ M. Ferreira --------- IFs
-- M. Lauri ------- A. Zozaya ------- E. Guaita - WGs CF

Forgotten great teams

C.A. San Lorenzo de Almagro - 1946 - Argentina Titles: Argentina - Domestic Championship 1946 Formation: ----------------- Blazina -----------------...

www.bigsoccer.com

Great! I will continue. The book I have here has the squads, starting 11 and some pictures. I think I can manage almost everything.

 

[valambrosio2]

@GIGGIRIVA

1922 1923 Union SG (Belgium)

mondefootball.fr

Football - résultats, nouvelles, statistiques et bien plus encore ...

www.mondefootball.fr

 

[GIGGIRIVA]

First team is added

 

[GIGGIRIVA]

@GIGGIRIVA

1922 1923 Union SG (Belgium)

mondefootball.fr

Football - résultats, nouvelles, statistiques et bien plus encore ...

www.mondefootball.fr

Yes I had added it the day after I published that first list

 

[GIGGIRIVA]

Paulistano

 

[Bruno Passarelli]

Giggi and friends

As I promise, I searched the Argentinean teams from the 1920's. There were 3 dominant teams: Boca Jrs, Independiente and San Lorenzo. Huracán was also very succesfull. Racing and Gymnasia y Esgrima also won titles. In Gymnasya's case, only one, but against Boca Jrs (1929), not only the team of the decade, but also the dominant one in the early 30's.

Based on that, what I suggest:

Boca Juniors 1920-25
Independiente 1920-25
San Lorenzo 1920-25
Racing Club 1920-25

Huracán 1925-30
Gymnasia y Esgrima 1925-30

Boca Juniors 1925-30 (but data in basically from 1926, so maybe it would be better to attach it to 1920-25)
Independiente 1925-30 (but data in basically from 1926, so maybe it would be better to attach it to 1920-25)
San Lorenzo 1925-30 (but data in basically from 1927, so maybe it would be better to attach it to 1920-25)

I attached images from the book I searched. There are photos of the starting 11 and the players' names (most times), the lineups of the final games following the players' positions, and the team full squad of the tournament separated by positions.

PS: Because of the files extensions, I wasn´t able to upload the images like I did with Brazilian teams. I wouldn´t have time to convert all of them now. Let me know if the link worked (it expires in 7 days if I am not mistaken).

https://wetransfer.com/downloads/c0...8455be307be60754a2da323d20211007202729/dbba4d

 

[GIGGIRIVA]

Giggi and friends

As I promise, I searched the Argentinean teams from the 1920's. There were 3 dominant teams: Boca Jrs, Independiente and San Lorenzo. Huracán was also very succesfull. Racing and Gymnasia y Esgrima also won titles. In Gymnasya's case, only one, but against Boca Jrs (1929), not only the team of the decade, but also the dominant one in the early 30's.

Based on that, what I suggest:

Boca Juniors 1920-25
Independiente 1920-25
San Lorenzo 1920-25
Racing Club 1920-25

Huracán 1925-30
Gymnasia y Esgrima 1925-30

Boca Juniors 1925-30 (but data in basically from 1926, so maybe it would be better to attach it to 1920-25)
Independiente 1925-30 (but data in basically from 1926, so maybe it would be better to attach it to 1920-25)
San Lorenzo 1925-30 (but data in basically from 1927, so maybe it would be better to attach it to 1920-25)

I attached images from the book I searched. There are photos of the starting 11 and the players' names (most times), the lineups of the final games following the players' positions, and the team full squad of the tournament separated by positions.

PS: Because of the files extensions, I wasn´t able to upload the images like I did with Brazilian teams. I wouldn´t have time to convert all of them now. Let me know if the link worked (it expires in 7 days if I am not mistaken).

https://wetransfer.com/downloads/c0...8455be307be60754a2da323d20211007202729/dbba4d

Thanks. downloaded

 

[GIGGIRIVA]

Timao done

I have to change ID to the 1920-25 South America league. ID 201 has this graphic ...

 

[GIGGIRIVA]

Anyone know how scoreboards work? I would like to delete any references in the game and leave only the default one. Assign the same scoreboard to each league

 

[Skoczek]

Anyone know how scoreboards work? I would like to delete any references in the game and leave only the default one. Assign the same scoreboard to each league

you have to copy default one with all scoreboard ids
they're named like overlay_X0XX.big

 

[GIGGIRIVA]

you have to copy default one with all scoreboard ids
they're named like overlay_X0XX.big

Thanks. I have no idea where the original is either ... where and how to extract it. I thought there was like a text file in the revolution mod that could handle XD

 

[Skoczek]

Thanks. I have no idea where the original is either ... where and how to extract it. I thought there was like a text file in the revolution mod that could handle XD

If we will be able to do so, long ago we would have been able to assign as many scoreboards as we wanted.
Localization: game>data>ui>game>overlays
Extraction:use File Master
Diagnosis:File Master or File Explorer (they're big files)
When you find all files of your wanted scoreboard, copy and rename them to overlay_20XX, 30XX...70XX etc.
Regenerate and done, you have only one scoreboard.

 

[GIGGIRIVA]

If we will be able to do so, long ago we would have been able to assign as many scoreboards as we wanted.
Localization: game>data>ui>game>overlays
Extraction:use File Master
Diagnosis:File Master or File Explorer (they're big files)
When you find all files of your wanted scoreboard, copy and rename them to overlay_20XX, 30XX...70XX etc.
Regenerate and done, you have only one scoreboard.

I try now. It's an editing thing I've never done. I hope not to bullshit ...