Does WE6 fix the following WE5 problems

[DryHeat]

I have not played WE6 but i have played WE5.
For anyone who has WE6 are the following problems still in the game.

0: Can you only run/pass/kick/lob in 8 directions even though the control is 360 degrees.

1: Do you have full control of headers : can you control the power and direction.

2: Does the computer clear the ball when you do not want it to.

3: Does the computer jump a sliding tackle when you do not want it to.

4: If you ligtly tap the chip button, does the power bar go to maximum.

5: Has the passing been improved. Such as if i pass to a guy in front of me it does no go the guy to the right of me.

6: Has player selection been improved on manual selection.

7: Can the goalkeeper drop the ball to the floor when they have it.

8: Is the weather variable during play i.e. does it start and stop raining.

9: Do the players stop still if a long pass cannot reach them, until the cpu gets the ball.

10: Do the players run in slow motion if the ball has not got the energy to reach them.

11: If a pass is intercepted does your player stop for a second.

12: When your player runs off the pitch does the cpu seleect another player.

13: Can the cpu run faster then you i.e is the cpu controlled ronaldo faster than a human controlled ronaldo.

14: When the ball rebound off the goalie do your players pause for a second.

15: Are the refs just as bad. You get carded even if the player has not fallen , yet the cpu can slide in from behind in the penalty area and get nothing.

16: Can you turn of the automatic long kick from within your area.

17: On a long pass if the ball bounces high do you still have control of your player.

18: Is the cpu more intelligent in the transfer market i.e if the cpu buys ronaldo the cpu will shuffle the team so that the best players are in the starting lineup.

19: Is the cpu more intelligent when playing i.e if the cpu is winning in the last minute they will go all defensive and change formation 5-4-1, but if the computer is losing the computer will change to a more attacking formation 3-4-3

20: Can you change the moral of the team in friendlies so that all players are red.

21: Can you change the color of your kit before games if they clash.

22: Can you turn of the automatic kick from the goalie when the goalie leaves the box.

23: Can you control the power of slide tackles.

24: Can you conrol the power of through balls (The longer you press the further the ball is knocked in front of the receiving player)

25: Can you control the power of the low pass.

26: Can you add curl to passes/chips/kicks.

27: Can you select if you want to do a header of a kick if the ball is in the air.

28: Can you foul players without the ball.

29: Can you move your players at goalkicks/corners/freekicks (Like fifa where you can foul the goalie)

30: Can you switch players you can throw to.

31: Can you barge the goalie.

32: Can you get more than four of your players sent off.

33: If more than four players get sent off does the game end.

34: Can you pass in 360 degrees at freekiicks i.e can you pass to the player behing you.

 

[MisterX_K]

Alright man, i give you some info

0: still only 8 directions...
1: direction: yes, power: no
2: rarely (in less than 1 of 10 situations)
3: same like 2
4: no, this is fixed
5: long pass and high thru pass greatly improved, sometimes what you mentioned still happens
6: i dont use manual selec...
7: no
8: yes, also the water effects are nice
9: yes, unfortunately
10: yes
11: sometimes
12: i think so but not sure
13: in deed, CPU Frank de Boer will catch up to everyone except players who have 90+ speed
14: no
15: YES, THIS IS STILL IN AND IT'S RIDICULOUS!
16: you can now long pass manually if you are 10m away from your pen. box
17: he will automatically run after the ball but with R1+R2 you can control him which is extremly difficult to do
18: i dont know, dont like master league
19: if it's winning: no (it still wants to beat the sh!t out of you), if it's losing: yes
20: yes
21: yes
22: no
23: no
24: no
25: no
26: only freekicks and corners but greatly improved
27: sometimes if you press shoot twice the player will do a bycicle kick, doesnt work everytime...
28: i dont know
29: no
30: no
31: if you mean, dribble around the goalie and score: yes
32: yes
33: game over
34: no

all in all, we6 is much better than PES/WE5 and WE5FE even tho most of the crappy things you wanted to know are still in there...
you gotta get this game man!

PES2 will be even better HEHE

 

[likewater]

re:

0:use R3 u can pass with 360 degree
6:still not good
18:yes but little improve,cpu will send the best player in first line
28:u can not
32:no
33:will not happened

 

[bulldrig]

The cpu cheats speed when you have the ball, not otherwise, actually when yourself controlls a defender you cheat speed as well.

Ofcourse IRL players runs faster withouth the ball , but the difference is to huge in WE6.

My biggest complain in WE6 is the ref AI.

I mean how fricking hard can it be to implent so players get sent off when they brings players down as the last man, even if its a little not so nasty foul.

Also shirtpulling should be much less effective, its silly not only does defenders cheat speed ,but they are also allowed to do shirt pulling to catch up with you.

SHirt pulling lasting over 1 second should 90% of the time result in a freekick( usually not untill the player lost the ball ofocurse),

shirt pulling that last`s over ....letsay 2 seconds should 60 % of the time result in a yellow card, 30 % chance to get another ( if your player is already booked ).



This not only would improve the game in a offensive aspect, as a defender you would have to do some interesting decisions as well.

Defending a 1-0 lead having 2 men in midfield already booked, how much shirt pulling do you dare`s to do?

Owen just past your slow defender ( still close enough for a little bit shirt pulling with only the goalkeeper left , 25 minutes left of the game and you are leading 2-0.
Are you prepared to bring Owen down with a little bit of shirt pulling wich alltough will mean that you still be leading with 2-0 ,you will have to play the rest of the game with only 10 men, or will you let him have that chance and be able to finish the game with full strenght team.

 

[MisterX_K]

Re: re:

Originally posted by likewater
0:use R3 u can pass with 360 degree

man, why do you say such crap. even with R3 you cant pass 360 degrees this has been discussed before and proven.

Originally posted by likewater
32:no
33:will not happened

of course you can get more than 4 red cards and then you lose the game. this has been in the iss series since SNES.

 

[bulldrig]

Re: Re: re:

Originally posted by MisterX_K

of course you can get more than 4 red cards and then you lose the game. this has been in the iss series since SNES.

What are you talking about?, you obviously havent tried yet

 

[hitmanuk2k]

It is IMPOSSIBLE to get any more than 3 players sent off in any match. Even bookings stop after the 3rd sending off.

 

[ps2]

Re: Re: re:

Originally posted by MisterX_K


man, why do you say such crap. even with R3 you cant pass 360 degrees this has been discussed before and proven.

True even with the RAS(R3) u can't pass 360 BUT there are 16 directions, and that i can guarantee u.

And bout putting curve on pass, when it comes to crossing/high passes u can do it. It's hard cause u have to time it well(just after the ball leaves the player's foot push the pad in the direction u want the ball to curve), but doable.

 

[arthur]

Hehe, I lik this post. I always meant to write down a list of all the little(and big) niggles and glitches in the game but you've got most of them covered.

Other have already replied, but I'll give my opinions anyway:

0) Yes. Still no true 360 degree analogue control.

1) No. You certainly don't have control of power (although timing probably plays a part) but you sometimes have control over direction but not always - eg. when defending a corner, if you try to head the ball back towards tyour own goal, your guy will usually head the ball clear in the opposite direction.

2) Yes

3) Hardly ever - this has improved since PES

4) Seems OK now

5) Still a bit iffy at times.

6) No, maybe it's just my imagination but I think manual player selection has actually gotten worse since PES - it's really bad at times (one of my major gripes about this game).

7) No

8) Yes, but only if you select rainy weather - sometimes the rain stops then starts again later. Splash effects are improved.

9) Yes

10) Yes

11) Yes (grrrrr). These annoying little hesistations still happen all over the place. Really pisses me off.

12) No idea

13) Most definitely. In some ways, it's a good thing...I now find it much harder to make breaks down the wing as you tend to get caught more easily which I like because I need to vary my play more.

But (and it's a big but) - when you're clean thorugh on goal, particularly after you play a defence splitting 1-2, the CPU defenders sometimes come sprinting out of nowhere at 100mph and catch you. Worse still, they push you over and take the ball. The ref doesn't even give the foul, let alone the red card. F*******ck!!!!

Also, if you're 1-0 with about 10 mins to go and the CPU needs to score, sometimes the game goes into this crazy mode where all the CPU players chase you around at 100mph...god knows where they suddenly find this unbelievable speed and energy from. And I'm not just talking abpout the fresh legged substitutes here.

14) No. This usually seems OK now, surprisingly.

15) The ref's are, at times, a complete joke. This seriously needs looked at by KCET.

16) Not aware this was a problem.

17) Yes, as far as I can tell. Long passes are now actually quite good...quite often leads to goals now, catching the defence off-guard.

18) Dunno. I've never really noticed.

btw, has anyone ever played against a CPU team where the CPU team was NOT at full strength?? Their players never seem to get injured, banned, lose form and so are not selected...I've not studied this properly but whenever I think to check, they always have the luxury of a full strength team.

19) When it's winning, they definitely "appear" to defend with more vigour and likewise when losing, their attackers seem more fired up. It can be hard to tell exactly what formation they're playing. But part of this is that the game makes your players play worse on purpose. I often find that if I'm 1-0 down and chasing the game, I can create chances but suddenly my strikers seem particularly sdept at hitting the post, etc. Or if the CPU is chasing the game, don'r EVER play a pass across your back line of defenders as they have a habit of passing straight to a CPU attacker

20) Yes

21) Yes

22) No, unless pressing R2(cancel kick) does it...never tried that with a goalie.

23) No

24) No (right analgoue stick which is supposed to allow you to control power but I find it's so inconsistent that it's worthless)

25) No

I really wish KCET would make use of the fact that the PS2 controller has analogue buttons. I'd like to see it configured so that the harder you press the button, the harder the pass/shot.

26) You can add curl to long pass/crosses. And, of course, free-kicks and corners. I've not seen much evidence of after-touch working on shots and certainly not on ground passes.

27) No

28) Don't think I've ever tried.

29) No

30) I'm not sure what you mean

31) No, you can't barge them. You can slide in and flick the the ball away just before they grab it though. They also can foul you.

32) No

33) From my experience, the ref stops giving out red cards after 4. The game just plays out.

34) No . This is so stupid.

 

[MisterX_K]

i remember that in ISS Deluxe you lost the game if you got more than 4 players sent off. why should they take this out?

but to be honest, i actually didnt try it