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Creation Centre 2005 Thread
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Lonestarr022
Starting XI
lets hope it doesnt get cut this time
Victorious
Reserve Team
Yeah what he said 
Lonestarr022
Starting XI
i wanan be able to change player #s and names with out it affecting commentary, and being able to select captain i wanan have that option
CVS Stilton
Youth Team
Creation Centre
The FIFA 2004 Creation Centre has the advantage of being pretty good at what it does. I've had absolutely no problems with it and Chau Le is not simply to be cheered from the rafters but hoisted aloft in his own champagne-plumbed velvet sedan. The problem with the CC2004 is that it arrived two months late and even after the update, now resides on all of our PCs as half a product. So - the team management, the editing, the importing and so forth is GREAT, but it's just a shame we never got to see what all of the tweaks with the kits were. Presumably they had a series of generic kits lined up which never made it into the final version. If I'm missing something here, it's only on account of their being no instructions - a most basic of requisites, folks.
So - for this year, what we need is a CC that is fully functional and up and running rightfrom the start and it ought to be well within EA's capabilities, especially if Chau is still on board, to secure for us all a truly superb editing facility. Now that Konami has PES3 for the PC it is in EA's interest to have plenty of strings to its bow.
What would also be a help is for the CC to be re-incorporated into the game. It just saves time between games if you don't have to zip back to Windows to make tweaks.
Another omission from CC2004 was the ability to generate custom tournaments which really limits the game. This is the really fun part and limiting the tournaments to the few national cups when an in-built tourney editor has always existed in the game was a bit of a shame.
So - all of that, plus the tournament and season editing would be nice, toggling between generic and official kits and flags etc - yes, FIFA 2005 ought to have some of that and in truth it would be nothing extra on top of what has already been made possible over the years. It would just be Max Editing Capability - which a lot of the bigger games are now moving towards.
One final thing - for authenticity's sake at very least - is that the CC2005 must include more generic faces. It's a very bizarre spectacle to watch a FIFA 2004 game in that although the stadiums look fantastic, with a variety of adboards and crowd cheering options for each team, the kits looks superb and the crowd animations pretty good on the whole, the cut scenes and commentary adding to the realism of the experience etc etc it's a real bloody shame when half of one of the squads all appear to be members of the same family, especially when they have face #7. This has the look of someone who sat on the loo thinking they were constipated only to discover they actually had the diarrhoea and I'm sick of seeing it atop a body that scores goal after goal in game after game. 80+ generic faces (as we had in FIFA 2003) ought not to be too much of a graphics demand given the number of stadiums, kits and adboards the prog can hoist out of the database. You can't see most of the faces most of the time during normal play, but it would enhance the cut scenes and the close ups no end if it didn't always seem as if the same 19 players were playing the whole world's football, combing and dyeing their hair in between games.
What do you reckon, dudes?
The FIFA 2004 Creation Centre has the advantage of being pretty good at what it does. I've had absolutely no problems with it and Chau Le is not simply to be cheered from the rafters but hoisted aloft in his own champagne-plumbed velvet sedan. The problem with the CC2004 is that it arrived two months late and even after the update, now resides on all of our PCs as half a product. So - the team management, the editing, the importing and so forth is GREAT, but it's just a shame we never got to see what all of the tweaks with the kits were. Presumably they had a series of generic kits lined up which never made it into the final version. If I'm missing something here, it's only on account of their being no instructions - a most basic of requisites, folks.
So - for this year, what we need is a CC that is fully functional and up and running rightfrom the start and it ought to be well within EA's capabilities, especially if Chau is still on board, to secure for us all a truly superb editing facility. Now that Konami has PES3 for the PC it is in EA's interest to have plenty of strings to its bow.
What would also be a help is for the CC to be re-incorporated into the game. It just saves time between games if you don't have to zip back to Windows to make tweaks.
Another omission from CC2004 was the ability to generate custom tournaments which really limits the game. This is the really fun part and limiting the tournaments to the few national cups when an in-built tourney editor has always existed in the game was a bit of a shame.
So - all of that, plus the tournament and season editing would be nice, toggling between generic and official kits and flags etc - yes, FIFA 2005 ought to have some of that and in truth it would be nothing extra on top of what has already been made possible over the years. It would just be Max Editing Capability - which a lot of the bigger games are now moving towards.
One final thing - for authenticity's sake at very least - is that the CC2005 must include more generic faces. It's a very bizarre spectacle to watch a FIFA 2004 game in that although the stadiums look fantastic, with a variety of adboards and crowd cheering options for each team, the kits looks superb and the crowd animations pretty good on the whole, the cut scenes and commentary adding to the realism of the experience etc etc it's a real bloody shame when half of one of the squads all appear to be members of the same family, especially when they have face #7. This has the look of someone who sat on the loo thinking they were constipated only to discover they actually had the diarrhoea and I'm sick of seeing it atop a body that scores goal after goal in game after game. 80+ generic faces (as we had in FIFA 2003) ought not to be too much of a graphics demand given the number of stadiums, kits and adboards the prog can hoist out of the database. You can't see most of the faces most of the time during normal play, but it would enhance the cut scenes and the close ups no end if it didn't always seem as if the same 19 players were playing the whole world's football, combing and dyeing their hair in between games.
What do you reckon, dudes?
Rochester Rhino
Manager
I agree with you fully.
well, on Chau's defense and mine since I betatested it 
, we betatesters when giving all our ideas to him and ofcourse we asked for all that (like tournament creation and teams creation and fixtures editing), but EA never gives Chau the source code of the game so can work with it.
In fact, they dont give him anything and Im not really sure if he got paid for it cause all he did had been already discovered by us (by us I mean Ariel, Hercules, Michael, Bream, Bolzer, etc) in the forums.
and the problem was that the CC worked outside the game, so when they finished the game, they didnt care about the CC.
I beleive this year the CC will be ingame so I guess that Chau wont work on it, unless its crap like in 2002
and he has to make an external one like his FEDs 
, we betatesters when giving all our ideas to him and ofcourse we asked for all that (like tournament creation and teams creation and fixtures editing), but EA never gives Chau the source code of the game so can work with it.In fact, they dont give him anything and Im not really sure if he got paid for it cause all he did had been already discovered by us (by us I mean Ariel, Hercules, Michael, Bream, Bolzer, etc) in the forums.
and the problem was that the CC worked outside the game, so when they finished the game, they didnt care about the CC.
I beleive this year the CC will be ingame so I guess that Chau wont work on it, unless its crap like in 2002
and he has to make an external one like his FEDs CVS Stilton
Youth Team
OK Spidey
Thanks for the info, Spidey. As I mentioned in my original thread, the CC for 2004 works really well within its limitations. You guys did a good job. Shame you weren't let loose on the tournament structure - it would have been good.
Let's hope EA thinks twice this year about taking out what was previously snugly incorporated within. There seems no sense in this. That great leap in graphics that accompanied Fifa 2003 had no Free Cam to render it in and for Fifa 2004 we lost the weather.
As for Chau - the guy deserves a yacht at least.
Thanks for the info, Spidey. As I mentioned in my original thread, the CC for 2004 works really well within its limitations. You guys did a good job. Shame you weren't let loose on the tournament structure - it would have been good.
Let's hope EA thinks twice this year about taking out what was previously snugly incorporated within. There seems no sense in this. That great leap in graphics that accompanied Fifa 2003 had no Free Cam to render it in and for Fifa 2004 we lost the weather.
As for Chau - the guy deserves a yacht at least.
Lonestarr022
Starting XI
did they say that u be able to create players on the console versions?
CVS Stilton
Youth Team
Who Knows
The console versions have traditionally been graced with slightly less editability overall since the Creation Centre has been dis-integrated from the rest of the game. This year - who knows? Looks like the CC is set to be in-game again and with enhancements to the X-Box version we may see new opportunities here too.
The console versions have traditionally been graced with slightly less editability overall since the Creation Centre has been dis-integrated from the rest of the game. This year - who knows? Looks like the CC is set to be in-game again and with enhancements to the X-Box version we may see new opportunities here too.
i think your thought about the generic faces is very valid, they should be changed, but on the other hand think about how many players have these generic faces and how long it would take to tracks all of the faces and to make them all.
Simple comment:
Start the Creation Center NOW! - EA are obviously aware of wot the database is gonna include, as they're the ones making the game
That way EA can create a "full product" and include it on the second CD, or stick it on its own disk!
Even better, give the PS2 users one as well !
Start the Creation Center NOW! - EA are obviously aware of wot the database is gonna include, as they're the ones making the game
That way EA can create a "full product" and include it on the second CD, or stick it on its own disk!
Even better, give the PS2 users one as well !
henryiskenyan
Club Supporter
Creation Centre
Creation centre 2005 should be like the 2003 version i.e. you should be able to save your changes and post them to the web if you want...
otherwise they way it is isn't to bad
Creation centre 2005 should be like the 2003 version i.e. you should be able to save your changes and post them to the web if you want...
otherwise they way it is isn't to bad
CVS Stilton
Youth Team
My guess is that Fifa 2005 will come with a Creation Centre. Now that EA have Konami breathing down their PC Format necks, it would be foolish in the extreme to remove the one thing from the PC version that distinguishes it from the Playstation and X Box versions. They might as well just hand Konami money. What that probably means is that the CC will be incorporated into the product and therefore available to all formats. Under these circumstances, it will probably be a watered down version of what we have seen over the past couple of years. It still doesn't mean we have to have an overly limited number of generic faces, though.
you don't have to make them all, just the ones you want to change, e.g. Edu and Toure have blonde hair this year, and it's annoying sometimes. with CC you could change that in like 5 minutes. and there's that D.N.A thingy they were talking about where you could hone the player's looks really close (apparently) to their real life counterparts
Soccer_Fan09
Club Supporter
I remember reading a couple of time that the creation centre is included in the game and on console. I personally like to keep the game real so I would like it better if it was just a player editor where you can change the ratings a bit and their appearence
karimistriker8
Club Supporter
Is There Creation Centre Or Not?!
Guys, i watched the vidoe i read the interviews and they all said that the only new "create" options are the creat tounrmaent and creat player modes. Theres no creation centre where you can edit attributes of other teams and players and redesign their kits?
please someone tell me im wrong.
Guys, i watched the vidoe i read the interviews and they all said that the only new "create" options are the creat tounrmaent and creat player modes. Theres no creation centre where you can edit attributes of other teams and players and redesign their kits?
please someone tell me im wrong.