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CHELSEA FC Thread [2005-2006]
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Tom said:
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Ironytracertong said:
why do you bother posting, you embarrassment?
or are you going to ignore me like a coward again?
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easy tom, we all know arsenal got to the final by scoring a niggly goal against a shoddy defense and then sitting on an aggregate lead in the second leg with a hoof and chase style that would bring a tear to the eye of Mourinho or BenitezTom said:
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Haha. Nice.
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Pete, just leave the conspiracy theories at the door
Arsenal were lucky, we were shit and we deserve to be out. Thats all there is to it. If these clubs continue to find an easy time of it my mind might be swayed, but until then we need to get the job done ourselves in Europe before we can point at the refs or whoever else. So far, we havent. Shouldve beat Monaco, shouldve beat Liverpool, shouldve done better against Barca.
Arsenal were lucky, we were shit and we deserve to be out. Thats all there is to it. If these clubs continue to find an easy time of it my mind might be swayed, but until then we need to get the job done ourselves in Europe before we can point at the refs or whoever else. So far, we havent. Shouldve beat Monaco, shouldve beat Liverpool, shouldve done better against Barca.
Omar, I've never said we deserved any more than we got. In fact if you go back to the Chelsea /Barca thread, you will see that i said the best team won over the 2 legs. The G14 thing had nothing whatsoever to do with our CL exit. That is just something that these morons decided to put together after i bought up G14 for an entirely different reason. This is their way of creating a smokescreen for their complete lack of intelligent argument. Thats why i do not refer to, or indeed answer to, anything that they might post about G f.u.c.king 14. Its my own fault really for attempting to have an in depth conversation with no brainers. So i dont bother any more. I just sit back and watch them suffer in pain. Its more fun that way......... 
ah Pete, you know im only having a laugh. I just dont understand your seemingly blindfolded hatred of the G14 clubs, and these conspiracy theories you have. Sometimes, i think you know so much about football, but then you come out with a pearler such as Arsenals run to the CL final being set-up, and then you sound like a 12yr old kid unable to understand why his favourite team has just lost.
OK, you asked for this.....its a bit heavy but......
I was a Chelsea fan before Chelsea became a business OK?
I have an inbred hatred of Business to be honest. I am a socialist, an "old school" Socialist. I have strong principles. I absolutely detest capitalism therefore, i detest any organisation that promotes capitalism. Even though i have enough of it, I dislike money. Yes I do, wierd as that might sound to people. I dislike what money does and what people will do to get it. I am a dying breed within this greedy immoral and degenerate society, i realise that. I have lived long enough to witness much corruption in all quarters of life to know one thing. Where there is money, there is corruption and immorality. Those 3 ingredients dictate life in this day and age. Society has evolved into one of triviality. People are driven by a selfish desire for oneself. The important things in life now seem to be money,flash car, flash house, an unexplainable, almost hysterical infatuation for something as trivial as a mobile phone and the wonders that it can do. Society is shallow and insular....Heavy huh?
I was a football fan when it was just a game, a sport. To see how it has evolved is disheartening to me. At the same time though, i am still a Chelsea supporter. Thats something I just cannot do anything about. I do not agree with the aggressive way that my club now moves. At the same time, I still enjoy the success my club might have. After all its still my club. Sounds hypocritical? Not really.
I have said many times that i would never EVER want Chelsea to join an organisation like G14. They are typical of the sort of organisation that i detest. UEFA are another, and FIFA are another. The entire football world is run on backhanders and bribery and elitism. I dont want my club to be part of that. I can't do anything about it of course but just continue to support my team. Thats not to say that i agree with the way the club is run. Those are two completely different things. I will still be a Chelsea fan if the bubble bursts tomorrow. I dont hate other teams who's clubs may be in G14. I do think there must be another way to combat the greed of UEFA and FIFA without forming yet another similar organisation though. Fans of G14 clubs take any detrimental comment about G14 very personally though, as if they themselves are actually a part of their clubs involvement. I never critisize the teams or the players or the fans, but i do single out the clubs, because its the clubs who keep organisations like G14 alive. Why defend it when in reality, we know that its just another moneysucking organisation for a select few.
I have never used any conspiracy theory as an excuse for Chelsea failures. That is an assumption made by others. Of course G14, UEFA and FIFA are corrupt. Only a fool would say otherwise. There is much evidence to support this as we all know. Most people just raise their eyebrows at the stink and then forget about it, and if you happen to support a club that might benefit from these shenanagins, then you are more likely to want to close your eyes to the truth. Thats what i mean when i say that morality makes way for selfish desire. Thats an example of the way people think nowadays. I am a cynic. I distrust everything. I know what is right and what is wrong and i do not support anything that compromises my beliefs or my principles.
Thats it really. Simple and in a nutshell.......... :funny:
EDIT: Anything i might say about the Arse does not count. They are the one club that, for many reasons, i have always despised. That is not to say i despise all their fans though. Although i dont have any time for the tossers of course. ( you know who you are).......hehehehehe
I was a Chelsea fan before Chelsea became a business OK?
I have an inbred hatred of Business to be honest. I am a socialist, an "old school" Socialist. I have strong principles. I absolutely detest capitalism therefore, i detest any organisation that promotes capitalism. Even though i have enough of it, I dislike money. Yes I do, wierd as that might sound to people. I dislike what money does and what people will do to get it. I am a dying breed within this greedy immoral and degenerate society, i realise that. I have lived long enough to witness much corruption in all quarters of life to know one thing. Where there is money, there is corruption and immorality. Those 3 ingredients dictate life in this day and age. Society has evolved into one of triviality. People are driven by a selfish desire for oneself. The important things in life now seem to be money,flash car, flash house, an unexplainable, almost hysterical infatuation for something as trivial as a mobile phone and the wonders that it can do. Society is shallow and insular....Heavy huh?
I was a football fan when it was just a game, a sport. To see how it has evolved is disheartening to me. At the same time though, i am still a Chelsea supporter. Thats something I just cannot do anything about. I do not agree with the aggressive way that my club now moves. At the same time, I still enjoy the success my club might have. After all its still my club. Sounds hypocritical? Not really.
I have said many times that i would never EVER want Chelsea to join an organisation like G14. They are typical of the sort of organisation that i detest. UEFA are another, and FIFA are another. The entire football world is run on backhanders and bribery and elitism. I dont want my club to be part of that. I can't do anything about it of course but just continue to support my team. Thats not to say that i agree with the way the club is run. Those are two completely different things. I will still be a Chelsea fan if the bubble bursts tomorrow. I dont hate other teams who's clubs may be in G14. I do think there must be another way to combat the greed of UEFA and FIFA without forming yet another similar organisation though. Fans of G14 clubs take any detrimental comment about G14 very personally though, as if they themselves are actually a part of their clubs involvement. I never critisize the teams or the players or the fans, but i do single out the clubs, because its the clubs who keep organisations like G14 alive. Why defend it when in reality, we know that its just another moneysucking organisation for a select few.
I have never used any conspiracy theory as an excuse for Chelsea failures. That is an assumption made by others. Of course G14, UEFA and FIFA are corrupt. Only a fool would say otherwise. There is much evidence to support this as we all know. Most people just raise their eyebrows at the stink and then forget about it, and if you happen to support a club that might benefit from these shenanagins, then you are more likely to want to close your eyes to the truth. Thats what i mean when i say that morality makes way for selfish desire. Thats an example of the way people think nowadays. I am a cynic. I distrust everything. I know what is right and what is wrong and i do not support anything that compromises my beliefs or my principles.
Thats it really. Simple and in a nutshell.......... :funny:
EDIT: Anything i might say about the Arse does not count. They are the one club that, for many reasons, i have always despised. That is not to say i despise all their fans though. Although i dont have any time for the tossers of course. ( you know who you are).......hehehehehe
Tom said:
Jeez....my critisism is not directed at the teams, players or fans. It is directed at the clubs and G14. My only bias is that i do not agree or support an organisation that is corrupt and unprincipled, or indeed any club thats chooses to be a member of an organisation like that.
You, as a Liverpool fan, have just demonstrated that what i believe is true. You refuse to condemn G14 because that will mean that you would have to critisize your club, and thats something that you just cant bring yourself to do. At least be open to the possibility that G14 COULD be corrupt.
Dreath....you are one of the good guys mate.......
oh Pede, how little you know about me, you really think im so obsessed with Liverpool i cant see the light .
If anything, i dont really support anyone, my favoured clubs are Liverpool, Valencia, Tottenham, Chelsea, Rotherham, Milwall, Huddersfield and Barcelona. Always have been, always will.
Open to the possibility? Pete, i lose count of the amount of times you've actually said the G14 are so corrupt, that if you were to say it in some official publication, it could actually be classed as libel it was that apparent. I just think you need to watch your language when you get so uptight about these "annoyancies" of yours, its fine explaining it all now, but tomorrow you'll be at it again; G14 this, G14 that..
.If anything, i dont really support anyone, my favoured clubs are Liverpool, Valencia, Tottenham, Chelsea, Rotherham, Milwall, Huddersfield and Barcelona. Always have been, always will.
Open to the possibility? Pete, i lose count of the amount of times you've actually said the G14 are so corrupt, that if you were to say it in some official publication, it could actually be classed as libel it was that apparent. I just think you need to watch your language when you get so uptight about these "annoyancies" of yours, its fine explaining it all now, but tomorrow you'll be at it again; G14 this, G14 that..
actually if you notice, Its always someone else who always mentions G14 first. Obviously because people assume that i will react to it. Which i dont, so then they tend to keep mentioning it. It is used towards me in place of healthy argument, usually because the point i might be trying to make is not to their liking.
As for libelous statements.....let them sue me, I should worry.
As for libelous statements.....let them sue me, I should worry.
not to their liking? but in the other thread, you said we should only make comments about controversial subjects based on facts, so how come you are happily making comments (usually inflamatory towards certain members) that are your own opinions of the G14 teams, that are devoid of ANY statistical proof and are pure hearsay?
Im not having a go, but every post you do seems to contradict another when you were in a SLIGHTLY different mood.
It just seems we cannot win, because whatever we do, we cant have a proper conversation (any of us with you) because you will always take the other side so as to make yourself look superior, when, you simply cant answer a straight question.
EDIT - but of course, im probably just too young and naive to understand it all right Pete?
Im not having a go, but every post you do seems to contradict another when you were in a SLIGHTLY different mood.
It just seems we cannot win, because whatever we do, we cant have a proper conversation (any of us with you) because you will always take the other side so as to make yourself look superior, when, you simply cant answer a straight question.
EDIT - but of course, im probably just too young and naive to understand it all right Pete?
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