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Changing from Fifa to PES on the PC
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TristanAbbott7
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Strange!
It is strange actually. I would have expected some software company in the UK to have been the leader in soccer games to be honest. In the mid-90's there were a bunch of good British soccer titles but then there just seemed to be no more. Kick Off 2002 cam out last year but that was pretty bad really, not much progress over the original versions (but great for flashbacks!).
For all the American bashing, nobody but the Japanese seem to have their finger on the pulse and we all know what a historically great soccer nation they are!!! It seems that history of, and national success in theg ame means nothing otherwise we'd be looking to Brazil for all the great soccer games or France and Germany with the odd great soccer game produced by Argentina!!!
Oh well, I don't care as long as somebody makes something we can all play together. It ain't gonna be freaking FIFA though. The latest movies of FIFA show the defense and forwards running around like headless chickens facing the wrong way, marking the wrong side of players and generally never using the outsides of the field. It may be a pre-Alpha but what hope there is to derive from what's been seen so far (other than having a ton of leagues) is beyond me!
PES3 on the PC will hopefully kill off the lame FIFA series.
It is strange actually. I would have expected some software company in the UK to have been the leader in soccer games to be honest. In the mid-90's there were a bunch of good British soccer titles but then there just seemed to be no more. Kick Off 2002 cam out last year but that was pretty bad really, not much progress over the original versions (but great for flashbacks!).
For all the American bashing, nobody but the Japanese seem to have their finger on the pulse and we all know what a historically great soccer nation they are!!! It seems that history of, and national success in theg ame means nothing otherwise we'd be looking to Brazil for all the great soccer games or France and Germany with the odd great soccer game produced by Argentina!!!
Oh well, I don't care as long as somebody makes something we can all play together. It ain't gonna be freaking FIFA though. The latest movies of FIFA show the defense and forwards running around like headless chickens facing the wrong way, marking the wrong side of players and generally never using the outsides of the field. It may be a pre-Alpha but what hope there is to derive from what's been seen so far (other than having a ton of leagues) is beyond me!
PES3 on the PC will hopefully kill off the lame FIFA series.
Originally posted by lobo
cinematics:
on fifa is always the same, a nice panoramic view of the stadium, players going to the pitch, and the beginning of the game, on we7/pes3 you will see how players prepare to go out the field, but first flags of the 2 countries appear, then the teams received by a fantastic crowd, very realistic
player attributes:
on fifa what they always improve is their faces, their kits, etc..., on we7/pes improves their kicking way,(eg: Beckham use to throw free kicks as he does on reality), their physical aptitudes, and all the little details that makes you think about the best football game
what a complete load of rubbish that is. The WE/Pro Evo games are far better to play than fifa and also play miles more realistically, but for presentation you cannot beat fifa and its something konami should do to make what would then be a perfect football game.
Yeah, i agree with that. If you combined the glitz, presentation and marketing of FIFA with the pure genius gameplay of PES, you'd have the ULTIMATE footie game that would sell by the bucketload!
PLEASE DONT BOTCH THIS ONE KONAMI!
just so whoever hasnt played the recent ISS3 for PC, try not to get too excited about PES3, at least until a demo is released.
i stupidly got all worked up about the annouced release of ISS3 for PC. i was finally gonna be able to play some quality footy at home and not at my japanese friend's house ..... also i had heard nothing but rave reviews about the series and its PES and WE sisters. also, it was perfect timing cause i had gotten tired of the gameplay flaws in FIFA, the only other major soccer series on PC. try as i might, i just couldnt get over all the AI retardedness, as well as all the other things that were wrong with it...well, i couldnt have been more disappointed....
now i know the crap about iss3 has been gone over many times, so heres a short list:
- only resolution: 640x480 (hello! its not 1998 anymore!)
- only about 8 of the keys on the keyboard can be used for player actions (but you can configure those 8 keys any way you like!)
- only the cursor keys (not the numpad) can be used for directing players
- for some reason, z and x are used to navigate the menus.... z and x.....it took me 5 minutes to get past the first prompt in the game...
theres way more but i deleted the game before i had a chance to experience much of this filth
this game is so bad, not only is it the worst console port ever, its the most dated 'new' game ive ever seen, and has ripped the hearts out of pc football fans across the globe. i was so angry that i had wasted 2 perfectly good cdrs on that crap. i can only imagine the anguish of those who actually shelled out money for the game, expecting konami's usual football brilliance.
anyway, the point is, lets all wait until at least a demo is out before we get out of contol with this. i know iss3 is not representative of konami's usual work, and the fact that this title is fast on the heals of iss3 might suggest that theyre trying to fix what they have butchered. but you never know, just like we didnt know with iss3....
later
just so whoever hasnt played the recent ISS3 for PC, try not to get too excited about PES3, at least until a demo is released.
i stupidly got all worked up about the annouced release of ISS3 for PC. i was finally gonna be able to play some quality footy at home and not at my japanese friend's house ..... also i had heard nothing but rave reviews about the series and its PES and WE sisters. also, it was perfect timing cause i had gotten tired of the gameplay flaws in FIFA, the only other major soccer series on PC. try as i might, i just couldnt get over all the AI retardedness, as well as all the other things that were wrong with it...well, i couldnt have been more disappointed....
now i know the crap about iss3 has been gone over many times, so heres a short list:
- only resolution: 640x480 (hello! its not 1998 anymore!)
- only about 8 of the keys on the keyboard can be used for player actions (but you can configure those 8 keys any way you like!)
- only the cursor keys (not the numpad) can be used for directing players
- for some reason, z and x are used to navigate the menus.... z and x.....it took me 5 minutes to get past the first prompt in the game...
theres way more but i deleted the game before i had a chance to experience much of this filth
this game is so bad, not only is it the worst console port ever, its the most dated 'new' game ive ever seen, and has ripped the hearts out of pc football fans across the globe. i was so angry that i had wasted 2 perfectly good cdrs on that crap. i can only imagine the anguish of those who actually shelled out money for the game, expecting konami's usual football brilliance.
anyway, the point is, lets all wait until at least a demo is out before we get out of contol with this. i know iss3 is not representative of konami's usual work, and the fact that this title is fast on the heals of iss3 might suggest that theyre trying to fix what they have butchered. but you never know, just like we didnt know with iss3....
later
The Drovers Dog
Reserve Team
Yes it does have that option, and yes it is good, it allows you to play any single free specific role on the pitch and adds a new and welcome dimension to the game..
And although you don't have 100% cantact with the ball as in full team control, you have to think like a single player when out there on the pitch, move at the right time, show yourself for support play etc etc, and when you do get the ball at your feet you can't afford to make any silly mistakes, like unloading stray passes or getting tackled and giving away posession etc etc. --
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Re: PLEASE DONT BOTCH THIS ONE KONAMI!
ISS is released under the name KONAMI. But a game developed by a totally different team unerd KONAMI.
I don't know how many times, this has been mentioned but, here it goes again..
ISS made by KCEO.
WE/PES madr by KCET.
Same company, different programing team. Don't be too worried about PES/WE ending up like ISS3. Maybe the console to PC conversion may not be smooth, but the actual game play won't change.
ISS is released under the name KONAMI. But a game developed by a totally different team unerd KONAMI.
I don't know how many times, this has been mentioned but, here it goes again..
ISS made by KCEO.
WE/PES madr by KCET.
Same company, different programing team. Don't be too worried about PES/WE ending up like ISS3. Maybe the console to PC conversion may not be smooth, but the actual game play won't change.
heh good thing you guys stopped visiting the fifa forums, i remember 1-2 years ago it was unbearable, anyways it's always nice to see how protective you are of your game but the thing that always strikes me the most is that you're not willing to give any credit whatsoever to fifa. I mean one thing is to have a personal preference another thing is to be totally unreasonable and unrealistic about your view of fifa....It's like you guys are developing some kinda unified hatred of a game which is not half as bad as you make it up to be (fact is, many more people play the fifa series, which doesn't mean it's neccessarily better...however dont go saying they don't know nothing about the sport cos that's bang out of order, or you think you're the only ones who have a deeper understanding? i think that's the case and it only makes you seem like some kinda cult)
so anyway, just wanted to get this off my chest with the hope that your slanting of fifa will get a bit more realistic or may even cease one day and just let me add that on a fifa forum you'd never see ISS,etc being discussed or dissed cos people there have better things to do...
(of course i know ya'll will prolly not reply and try to ignore the argument, thus proving my point even further as you obviously wouldn't have a reasonable answer
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so anyway, just wanted to get this off my chest with the hope that your slanting of fifa will get a bit more realistic or may even cease one day and just let me add that on a fifa forum you'd never see ISS,etc being discussed or dissed cos people there have better things to do...
(of course i know ya'll will prolly not reply and try to ignore the argument, thus proving my point even further as you obviously wouldn't have a reasonable answer
)In theory, yes, PES3 should run just fine by using the Renderware engine on the PC - but let us not forget the original GTA on the PC, and how much of a pain that was. The lessons were learnt by Rockstar for GTA-VC, but this will be Konami's first port on to the PC using this engine - so it still has the potential to go tits up...!
