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Can MLS teams compete in the Premier League?

mlsmanager2002

Youth Team
After a long discussion on the FIFA 2003 board regarding whether or not MLS could compete against different leagues, I plopped the Galaxy in the Premiership.

TEST: The Los Angeles Galaxy have made the top 25 in club rankings. I did a test, using my own program, to see how they would fare in the Premiership, replacing Bolton Wanderers, who perennially struggle for relegation, and having Bolton as replacing the Galaxy in the MLS.
Expected Result: The Galaxy would be around mid-table. There is some luck involved in what tactic each team plays as, so they could be a little higher. Bolton should provide yet another competitive team in the MLS.
Program Used: US Soccer Manager, my own creation that's not fully out yet.

What Happened:
I played as Hajduk Split courtesy of a cheat code to not screw anything up but was fired because they did not play any games and their finances corkscrewed, a bug, since all other european teams have static finances (fixed). I first chose an MLS team, San Jose, because they would simulate the season faster because they play fewer games, but once the games had been simmed I hopped to Hajduk.

After the first 12 games, Bolton was in the relegation zone (with the Galaxy's players). They were able to pull out of it. At the end of the season, they were in the lower part of the table, as you can see below. Other notes: the teams with the data in the lower divisions won easily because they had better teams.

In the MLS the Galaxy lost only four games. They had some problems in the playoffs but the full results were shown below.





In the MLS (the league I started with) Ricketts led the league with 24 goals, no Galaxy player made the top 10 in the premiership.

Misc: Bobby Rhine was MVP.

Important Note: Arsenal won the World Club Cup, defeating the KC Wizards 3-2. The Gunners went up 2-0 but the score at HT was 2-2 thanks to a Ljungberg sending off. Wizards got nothing in the second half. Proof that MLS CAN play Arsenal, who did very well as you can see.

The data could have been flawed, but I regret saying that most likely that MLS teams are relegation zone Premiership/top Division One teams.
 

FuriousGeorge

Reserve Team
Any Team in the MLS would get DESTROYED in a top European league.

Using FIFA2003 to judge soccer is like using CIV3 to judge world cultur or military prowess.
 
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HydroElectric

Guest
Originally posted by FuriousGeorge
Any Team in the MLS would get DESTROYED in a top European league.

Using FIFA2003 to judge soccer is like using CIV3 to judge world cultur or military prowess.

Yep. Exactly what FuriousGeorge said.
 

Cyprom

Senior Squad
Maybe the first year, but with some experience, I think MLS team won't be destroyed against European Teams. Maybe against Real Madrid, but who can beat REAL ???
 

LaBrujita

Senior Squad
Re: Can MLS teams compete in the Premier League?

Originally posted by mlsmanager2002
After a long discussion on the FIFA 2003 board regarding whether or not MLS could compete against different leagues, I plopped the Galaxy in the Premiership.

TEST: The Los Angeles Galaxy have made the top 25 in club rankings. I did a test, using my own program, to see how they would fare in the Premiership, replacing Bolton Wanderers, who perennially struggle for relegation, and having Bolton as replacing the Galaxy in the MLS.
Expected Result: The Galaxy would be around mid-table. There is some luck involved in what tactic each team plays as, so they could be a little higher. Bolton should provide yet another competitive team in the MLS.
Program Used: US Soccer Manager, my own creation that's not fully out yet.

What Happened:
I played as Hajduk Split courtesy of a cheat code to not screw anything up but was fired because they did not play any games and their finances corkscrewed, a bug, since all other european teams have static finances (fixed). I first chose an MLS team, San Jose, because they would simulate the season faster because they play fewer games, but once the games had been simmed I hopped to Hajduk.

After the first 12 games, Bolton was in the relegation zone (with the Galaxy's players). They were able to pull out of it. At the end of the season, they were in the lower part of the table, as you can see below. Other notes: the teams with the data in the lower divisions won easily because they had better teams.

In the MLS the Galaxy lost only four games. They had some problems in the playoffs but the full results were shown below.





In the MLS (the league I started with) Ricketts led the league with 24 goals, no Galaxy player made the top 10 in the premiership.

Misc: Bobby Rhine was MVP.

Important Note: Arsenal won the World Club Cup, defeating the KC Wizards 3-2. The Gunners went up 2-0 but the score at HT was 2-2 thanks to a Ljungberg sending off. Wizards got nothing in the second half. Proof that MLS CAN play Arsenal, who did very well as you can see.

The data could have been flawed, but I regret saying that most likely that MLS teams are relegation zone Premiership/top Division One teams.
Honestly, just delete this thread and save yourself the embarrassment.
The one point I'll make is that you have Southampton, who is in my opion worse than Bolton, in 5th and Middlesbrough in 18th!
Go home.
 
If the LA Galaxy were to play in the EPL they would probably finish 15-18, most likely escaping relegation. San Jose, New England, Columbus, Colorado and Dallas would be 50-50 for relegation while Kansas City, MetroStars and DC United would probably be relegated if they Joined the EPL.

That's IMO how MLS teams compare to a strong European league like the EPL. Pretty much any EPL team would be very successful in MLS.
 

maddog1983

Starting XI
Re: Re: Can MLS teams compete in the Premier League?

Originally posted by LaBrujita
Honestly, just delete this thread and save yourself the embarrassment.
The one point I'll make is that you have Southampton, who is in my opion worse than Bolton, in 5th and Middlesbrough in 18th!
Go home.

regarding southampton .. you have grossly underestimated them
they have Fernandes (soon to be french international) Anders Svensson (swedish international who will forget his free kick) Pahars Proven striker in the Epl. Beattie and up and coming England U21, Omerod who has been amazing this year with 8 or 9 goals in all comps .. Neimi a fantastic keeper ... backed up by paul jones their defence seems a little shaky but they have one of the best defensive records hardly ever conceding more than 2 goals this year
i say saints for europe (maybe just mid table mediocrity)

also they have strachan whos a good manager

Regarding this Bolton Mls crap
all i have to say is HAHAHAHAHAHA yeah MLS teams would compete in the EPL :rolleyes: Perth Glory could be champions of Serie A lol!! :D
 

LaBrujita

Senior Squad
Re: Re: Re: Can MLS teams compete in the Premier League?

Originally posted by maddog1983
regarding southampton .. you have grossly underestimated them
they have Fernandes (soon to be french international) Anders Svensson (swedish international who will forget his free kick) Pahars Proven striker in the Epl. Beattie and up and coming England U21, Omerod who has been amazing this year with 8 or 9 goals in all comps .. Neimi a fantastic keeper ... backed up by paul jones their defence seems a little shaky but they have one of the best defensive records hardly ever conceding more than 2 goals this year
i say saints for europe (maybe just mid table mediocrity)
I got no problem with them. I just think Bolton (who is 17th) is better than them-maybe I overrated Bolton, not underrate S-ampton.
Anders is the man and severly underrated:rockman:
 

juventusita

Senior Squad
Re: Re: Re: Can MLS teams compete in the Premier League?

Originally posted by maddog1983
regarding southampton .. you have grossly underestimated them
they have Fernandes (soon to be french international) Anders Svensson (swedish international who will forget his free kick) Pahars Proven striker in the Epl. Beattie and up and coming England U21, Omerod who has been amazing this year with 8 or 9 goals in all comps .. Neimi a fantastic keeper ... backed up by paul jones their defence seems a little shaky but they have one of the best defensive records hardly ever conceding more than 2 goals this year
i say saints for europe (maybe just mid table mediocrity)

also they have strachan whos a good manager

Regarding this Bolton Mls crap
all i have to say is HAHAHAHAHAHA yeah MLS teams would compete in the EPL :rolleyes: Perth Glory could be champions of Serie A lol!! :D

Wayne Bridge
 

serhat09

Youth Team
here is a simple answer

mls...SOCCER... is all 8th class teams, they all suck, and have no chance in ANY european league, let alone the premiership one of the strongest in european football. What a retarded post...:kader:
 


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