Genesis6891
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Computer and Video Games - now they're quality reviewers - and FIFA 2003 got 68% (crap basically) while PES2 got 93% I think.
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nickclubman
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93% for PES2 is stupid. Granted, it's a very good/realistic game football gameplay wise, but NO football game until the year 2005 deserves such a high mark, as I don't believe any football game TRULY is as perfect to the real sport as what that score is trying to get accross. 
Who agress?
Nick Clubman
Who agress?
Nick Clubman
Genesis6891
Club Supporter
No sorry I don't Nick.
You can't just give all footie games a low mark cos they will be more realistic in a few more years - marks are given for the quality of a game considering current circumstances and technology.
PES / PES2 is praised so much because it could be on the Sega Mega Drive - point is that gameplay is far superior to any other footie game.
You can't just give all footie games a low mark cos they will be more realistic in a few more years - marks are given for the quality of a game considering current circumstances and technology.
PES / PES2 is praised so much because it could be on the Sega Mega Drive - point is that gameplay is far superior to any other footie game.
Neutral LFC
Senior Squad
68% is too low. Fifa 2003 is a decent arcade/sim hybrid and deserving of a better mark.
I looked on their website, they've given 10/10 for PES2 and 7/10 for FIFA.
I think the review for FIFA is spot on. I agree with most of what he says.
Although giving 10/10 for PES2 is pushing it a bit..... I have played WE6 which is similar to PES2 and it's a superb game but it may deserve 8.5/10.
The gameplay is better in WE/PES, but the licenses, kits, stadia, atmosphere are better in FIFA.
Here's the review for FIFA on cvg:
Initially he bashes FIFA, but slowly he points out the flaws in
PES2 and comes up with a balanced look at both games.
I agree with his summary.
##### REVIEW ######
5 Nov 02 Ask yourself: why are you even reading
this? You know FIFA Football's not as good as Pro
Evo 2. That scores a ten, and this doesn't. It doesn't
because it's nowhere near as rewarding a game, and
nowhere near as true to the sport of football. So
that's that then. Point and laugh if you must, but
buy Pro Evo 2.
That's the bottom line, but there's a lot in FIFA
2003 that makes you realise that even Pro Evo is
massively deficient in some areas. Take real player
names, kits, team badges... stuff like that.
Prolonged Pro Evo play makes you think these
things aren't important. Revisiting this year's FIFA
might change your mind. Pro Evo might feel like
football, but you can't deny the meaningless kits
and team names hammer the authenticity.
Authenticity is FIFA's strong suit. Play Man U versus
Arsenal at Old Trafford, and you get a real sense of atmosphere. The important players are exactly like the real people. Kits are bang on. The stadium's amazing. Pro Evo feels like you're playing football, but this makes you think you're taking part in a specific match. It creates a different kind of buzz to Pro Evo, but a buzz nonetheless.
NOTHING LIKE THE REAL THING (AT ALL)
Don't kid yourself these things are not important,
because they are. Consider this: where's the virtue
in having all the drawing power of the next-gen
consoles but still having players that are as vague
as the tiny footballer sprites of ten years ago?
The perfect footie game would combine Pro Evo
and FIFA, and this evidently isn't lost on EA: for the
first time in the series' history, there's a real
Evolution influence. Gone is the farcical
hammering of triangle to run. Now you simply
squeeze a certain shoulder button. You can even
select 'Action' or 'Simulation' gameplay. And the
cheap skill moves on the other shoulder buttons?
Gone too.
But before you get all excited, the ball still moves like it's got ball bearings rattling around inside. Cross-field passes wobble in the air, ground passes seem almost randomly paced and shots can go so quickly they've come back off the keeper before you're fully aware you've shot. The dribbling's a bit off too, but FIFA responds with - no word of a lie - a PASSING game.
BALLS OF IRON
You can flick the ball around nicely, and the dotted-line passing that was a bad centrepiece in the previous two versions is a more comfortable fit. Tap L1 and players break off you and make runs forward. There's no button for that in Pro Evo 2. You can be powering upfield with Keano or Viera with Giggs and Ljungberg just watching you. You will them to break. They don't.
All of which adds up to the first decent FIFA game in years, and one you might not instantly vomit over at the prospect of playing with your mate. Him being more taken with seeing Ryan Giggs on the box rather than some meaningless torso. If FIFA carries on copying and Pro Evo keeps ignoring reality, this contest could get closer next season.
Dean Scott
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I think the review for FIFA is spot on. I agree with most of what he says.
Although giving 10/10 for PES2 is pushing it a bit..... I have played WE6 which is similar to PES2 and it's a superb game but it may deserve 8.5/10.
The gameplay is better in WE/PES, but the licenses, kits, stadia, atmosphere are better in FIFA.
Here's the review for FIFA on cvg:
Initially he bashes FIFA, but slowly he points out the flaws in
PES2 and comes up with a balanced look at both games.
I agree with his summary.
##### REVIEW ######
5 Nov 02 Ask yourself: why are you even reading
this? You know FIFA Football's not as good as Pro
Evo 2. That scores a ten, and this doesn't. It doesn't
because it's nowhere near as rewarding a game, and
nowhere near as true to the sport of football. So
that's that then. Point and laugh if you must, but
buy Pro Evo 2.
That's the bottom line, but there's a lot in FIFA
2003 that makes you realise that even Pro Evo is
massively deficient in some areas. Take real player
names, kits, team badges... stuff like that.
Prolonged Pro Evo play makes you think these
things aren't important. Revisiting this year's FIFA
might change your mind. Pro Evo might feel like
football, but you can't deny the meaningless kits
and team names hammer the authenticity.
Authenticity is FIFA's strong suit. Play Man U versus
Arsenal at Old Trafford, and you get a real sense of atmosphere. The important players are exactly like the real people. Kits are bang on. The stadium's amazing. Pro Evo feels like you're playing football, but this makes you think you're taking part in a specific match. It creates a different kind of buzz to Pro Evo, but a buzz nonetheless.
NOTHING LIKE THE REAL THING (AT ALL)
Don't kid yourself these things are not important,
because they are. Consider this: where's the virtue
in having all the drawing power of the next-gen
consoles but still having players that are as vague
as the tiny footballer sprites of ten years ago?
The perfect footie game would combine Pro Evo
and FIFA, and this evidently isn't lost on EA: for the
first time in the series' history, there's a real
Evolution influence. Gone is the farcical
hammering of triangle to run. Now you simply
squeeze a certain shoulder button. You can even
select 'Action' or 'Simulation' gameplay. And the
cheap skill moves on the other shoulder buttons?
Gone too.
But before you get all excited, the ball still moves like it's got ball bearings rattling around inside. Cross-field passes wobble in the air, ground passes seem almost randomly paced and shots can go so quickly they've come back off the keeper before you're fully aware you've shot. The dribbling's a bit off too, but FIFA responds with - no word of a lie - a PASSING game.
BALLS OF IRON
You can flick the ball around nicely, and the dotted-line passing that was a bad centrepiece in the previous two versions is a more comfortable fit. Tap L1 and players break off you and make runs forward. There's no button for that in Pro Evo 2. You can be powering upfield with Keano or Viera with Giggs and Ljungberg just watching you. You will them to break. They don't.
All of which adds up to the first decent FIFA game in years, and one you might not instantly vomit over at the prospect of playing with your mate. Him being more taken with seeing Ryan Giggs on the box rather than some meaningless torso. If FIFA carries on copying and Pro Evo keeps ignoring reality, this contest could get closer next season.
Dean Scott
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