Bayern München Thread [2007/08]

[smoove]

Ok, thanks for the comment. Now piss off at Ajax thread will ya?

Back on topic. I have to agree with Vince that after the WC he had a prolonged post wc syndrome. I do excpect him to be better this season. I also would want to see him loaned somewhere else if he doesn't get fit this season too. He is too talented to rot in the bench.

Have a cookie. I don't really know what I have to do with ajax but I guess you know better. I've watched Schweinsteiger week in and week out over the last three years (unlike you, I guess) and he is infact nothing more than average, he posseses a good shot and is a decent passer, everything else about him is mediocre. he is not exactly talented, he's slow, his technique is pretty overrated (he has to stop every ball with his sole to convert it) and his vision is not good at all.

Nah, good player and I still think he's got it in him. It's just that he's a lot better as a winger. Wish those training kits would be our real jerseys.

He's a central midfielder, he's too slow for the wings.

 

[Klobb]

You can not break up Schweini and Poldi

 

[Hendrik]

You can not break up Schweini and Poldi

The same goes for him by the way. If he doesn't perform we should closely follow Gomez's development.
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“At the moment we’re training with me as right-back and Marcell Jansen on the left” -Lahm

Good. I hope we will see him on the right side more often, he's become too predictable on the left.

 

[Deisler]

Man what is wrong with our youngsters. All three poldi, Schweinny and lahm have been horrible last season? All of a sudden they are average?

No i gotta agree with Awax in this one. They are being criticized for a season when we simply did not perform. Poldi was a first year Bayern player and he suffered. I guess that is acceptable.

Schweinny had his ups and dowsn but ffs who had we supporting him? Van Bommel? Owen? They are both more of physical players and not creative. And don't even get me started with Santa Claus or Ali "FLUKE" Karimi. And than didn't he favor playing as a winger? Playing him in the center was a forced choice and that is mainly why he was not productive. I would hate hit to do a Lars Ricken on us. Great potential wasted only because he is playing out of his position.

Lahm is a little different. I really think he should have been better than that. He had his 2 year loan at Shtutgart to fully develop and than was brought back as a full time player. He simply didn't perform, but yet again that can be said for all our defenders. Sagnol went from being one of the best wingers to a mediocre one. Lucio was a headless chicken and a catastophe in the happening. Van Buyten? Well he was more important as a striker for us so that sums it. Our best defender was Brazzo for crying out loud.

I am hopping we don't give up on Lahm, Schweinny and Poldi as of yet. And osle hopping Kroos is not going to be a bench rotting youngster.

 

[ShiftyPowers]

Kroos will get a few games with the first team and train with them, but he'll play most of the time in the Reserves. You can't have a young kid like that not playing.

 

[Hendrik]

Yep. The reserve team is already a huge step up from the U19/U17 youth team. Let's see how he does there first in a more physical challenging league.

There's nothing wrong with Lahm, he just had an average season. He had to play to play every game from the first until the final minute. He barely had any holidays before the start of the past season, I'll let that count as an excuse. He's obviously no Lizarazu yet, he needs to work especially on his defensive skills. Like I stated before, I prefer him on the right side. A three man rotation between him, Sagnol and Jansen should be fine and all will easily get enough playing time.

Schweinsteiger is a different case. He's heading into his sixth (!) season with us and I have yet to see him performing week in week out. 5 good matches a year and some cracking longe range shots are not enough.

And than didn't he favor playing as a winger? Playing him in the center was a forced choice and that is mainly why he was not productive.

Only in the last few matches before Magath got sacked. I thought he wasn't too bad in the center actually. The problem with him on the wing is his lack of pace. He played in central midfield in his youth career and then Hitzfeld played him as a winger so that he could better adapt to this level (I reckon the same will be done with Kroos).
Now it's time to take the next step. In my opinion he will never become a good winger so give it a try in central midfield.. Ze and van Bommel aren't getting any younger.

 

[Deisler]

Kroos is playing the reserve team or in the amatorial team? I am a bit confused now. I mean is it the same thing?

Well Schweinny has to prove himself understood but benching him is not going to work on his favor that is all i am trying to say.

Kroos unfortunately has a long way to go lets not forget we also took Schlaudraff and he ain't gona be happy in the bench either.

Lahm, Schweinny, Kroos, Poldi, Sosa and Schlaudraff are a nice core of youngsters. We were never that good on that category>

Having a lot of options is a headache every coach loves to have but that also has the risk of burning promising youngsters.

 

[smoove]

Schweinsteiger is a different case. He's heading into his sixth (!) season with us and I have yet to see him performing week in week out. 5 good matches a year and some cracking longe range shots are not enough.


Only in the last few matches before Magath got sacked. I thought he wasn't too bad in the center actually. The problem with him on the wing is his lack of pace. He played in central midfield in his youth career and then Hitzfeld played him as a winger so that he could better adapt to this level (I reckon the same will be done with Kroos).
Now it's time to take the next step. In my opinion he will never become a good winger so give it a try in central midfield.. Ze and van Bommel aren't getting any younger.

Exactly. I can't see Bayern relying on Schweinsteiger as an anchor of the team in the future, though. HIs choices are staying with Bayern and getting used to a Rotation/Bench Role or heading to a mid-table club like Wolfsburg, Hannover, etc. and being a cornerstone there. I don't think he'll be able to really be a player to rely on, he's somewhat of a mental case, now seems to have a chronic injury and there's always trouble with his father/manager.

 

[Hendrik]

Kroos is playing the reserve team or in the amatorial team? I am a bit confused now. I mean is it the same thing?

It's the same. "FC BAYERN II" is the official term.

No one talks about the guy who played 24 games last season and got better ratings than all the other youngsters: Ottl. I'm still undecided about him. At times he's frustrating to watch. I would've preferred to loan him to Wolfsburg and Magath or maybe we should do so next year.

Oh, and

Manchester City are ready to spend £8m on Bayern Munich's 25-year-old striker Roque Santa Cruz. (Daily Star)

12 million euros C'mon Sven, do it!

 

[theo]

Would be really something if Santa Cruz will get on fire at Man City, it's good that Bayern gets rid of his wages anyway.

Hey, what's Salihamidzic's best position. Not necessarily his natural one, but the one he's played the best for you lot.

 

[smoove]

Would be really something if Santa Cruz will get on fire at Man City, it's good that Bayern gets rid of his wages anyway.

For Santa Claus, getting on fire would be actually managing 6 goals a season for once. City must be out of their Minds.

 

[Klobb]

NOO!!!!! 1860 must make a move for Santa, his wife MUST STAY.

 

[Hendrik]

Hey, what's Salihamidzic's best position. Not necessarily his natural one, but the one he's played the best for you lot.

RM, RB, LM, LB in that order.

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FT Gern 0-18 Bayern Munich (H-T: 0-9)

Bayern: Kahn (Rensing 46) - Altintop (Celozzi 76), Demichelis, Van Buyten, Lahm - Sosa (Lell 63), Ottl, Van Bommel (Hummels 63), Ribéry - Toni (Wagner 63), Klose (Fürstner 71)

Attendance: 10,000

Goals: 0-1 Sosa (7), 0-2 and 0-3 Klose (11, 12), 0-4 Demichelis (14), 0-5 Toni (18, pen), 0-6 Sosa (19), 0-7 Demichelis (24), 0-8 Toni (33), 0-9 Klose (34), 0-10 Van Bommel (48), 0-11 Pasta (52, o.g.), 0-12 Ribéry (58), 0-13 Klose (59), 0-14 Lahm (65), 0-15 Ribéry (68), 0-16 Hummels (78), 0-17 Wagner (82), 0-18 Hummels (84)

Highlights: http://rapidshare.com/files/41418424/fcbp-xx-070706-hv-ftgfcb-de-up_by_mic.wmv.html

 

[Deisler]

Lahm's old team. And he even asked the team to go easy on them.
Klose seems to be the same one. Throwing the ball in.

Hummels has flashes of genius. I am surprised why we are not high on him.


Thanks for the highlighs Vince.

 

[ShiftyPowers]

Hahahahaha, 18-0!!!??? Why even play the game!?

 

[Klobb]

haha ShiftyPowers your sig quote is classic..ahh eurotrip

 

[ShiftyPowers]

haha ShiftyPowers your sig quote is classic..ahh eurotrip

Love that movie. I saw it in the theaters absolutely plastered and never laughed so hard in my life.

But seriously, I played on some BAD youth teams, and we played some GOOD youth teams, but I never remember losing 18-0. I remember the Bavarians (before I joined) beat us maybe 10-0 in some tournament, but seriously 18-0!? How is that worthwhile? Was Rensing just signing autographs behind his net all game?

 

[Hendrik]

Dude, they're playing in the 8th division. Those guys were exhausted after ten minutes. Before the game they said their aim's to concede less than 20 goals.

This was a benefit game, they send us their most talented kids every now and then (Lahm is the most famous example).

 

[Deisler]

8th division?

Does that make them an Amatorial team?

And i didn't see Poldi in there, he still hurt?

 

[Hendrik]

8th division?

Does that make them an Amatorial team?

And i didn't see Poldi in there, he still hurt?

Yes, all clubs below 2. Bundesliga are Amateur teams. An 8th division team trains like once or twice a week.


Here's the injury update when they're expected to be back in training:

Lucio: next few days
Ismael: 3-4 weeks
Podolski: 5 weeks
Schlaudraff: 5-6 weeks
Sagnol: end of August