Bayern München Thread [2005-2006]

[phead]

very important win. gj!

if fcb gets podolski, there is no need for ballacks replacement. there are already many good midfielders and even podolski can play attackin midfielder position too.

 

[Deisler]

Riquelme anyone?

 

[Hendrik]

That's because Pizarro is a complete player.. and coaches know that as they've always asked him to also defend while playing away and leave to makaay to score all the goals... then again Vince, you already knew that.

Here we go again with your conspiracy theories. I don't care if he has to defend, as a striker he as to score some goals away from home. No one can deny that he was in some sort of a scoring slump.

 

[djgperu1]

Here we go again with your conspiracy theories. I don't care if he has to defend, as a striker he as to score some goals away from home. No one can deny that he was in some sort of a scoring slump.

just like makaay....
the only difference is that pizarro contributes more...
makaay just waits for the ball...

 

[Deisler]

The criticism is coming from someone that has Ronaldo in his sig.

 

[djgperu1]

The criticism is coming from someone that has Ronaldo in his sig.

im just sayin that u guys should at least be proud of the great striker u have (pizarro) ... instead of always praising Makaay...
Pizarro & Ballack give the goals to makaay... just like any other teammate....

btw ronaldo is just recoverin from an injury... he has 7 goals in the league...

 

[Hendrik]

Pizarro & Ballack give the goals to makaay... just like any other teammate....

But that doesn't stop Ballack from being one of the best scoring midfielders.

Ballack will probably out for te Rapid game as well. Hoeness has stated that the chances are above 50% that he will extend.
Sagnol will make his decision in two weeks, he was pissed that Ballack got so much attention.

 

[Klobb]

I hate how ESPN never shows bayern-juve games....Only game they showed was when they played Chelsea last year..

 

[peruytu]

Here we go again with your conspiracy theories. I don't care if he has to defend, as a striker he as to score some goals away from home. No one can deny that he was in some sort of a scoring slump.

Not as bad as makaay not scoring in 1000 minutes and scoring only 1 goal in 1180 minutes. And we can pretty much say that Pizarro hasnt even played for over 1000 in the past year. Sorry but your rationale isnt even valid.

Anyways, what conspiracy are you talking about?

The facts are:

1. when playing away Pizarro MUST ALSO defend

2. when playing awaY makaay should be the go-to striker

What conspiracy is that? Thats no conspiracy.. those are facts.. facts that goes back to the previous coach and still being used by magath.

Another sad fact, Pizarro scores both goals to lift Bayern to victory and what? Nobody says a damn thing about Pizarro. Only Vince with his "scores away from home after over a year" hah!

Makaay scores and this whole thread goes bananas.

Bayern and bayern fan mentality are alike, thats for sure. You know what? Yea you guys are right, I may not really be a bayern fan because of the screwed up mentality that i refuse to fall under.

SO there, I said, alot of you must be very happy.

But, make no mistake, fact is makaay is your undeserving God and Pizarro is just makaay's striking partner.

And again, i'm not saying this because I'm Peruvian, or else i'd be all over Guerrero also. But Pizarro gets no respect, never got any since day one.. and should for that reason leave Bayern. And I hope he does too... sooner than later.

 

[Hendrik]

Highlights

Not as bad as makaay not scoring in 1000 minutes and scoring only 1 goal in 1180 minutes. And we can pretty much say that Pizarro hasnt even played for over 1000 in the past year. Sorry but your rationale isnt even valid.

When fit Pizarro always played last year and one and a half years is worse than just a few games.

The facts are: 1. when playing away Pizarro MUST ALSO defend 2. when playing awaY makaay should be the go-to striker What conspiracy is that? Thats no conspiracy.. those are facts.. facts that goes back to the previous coach and still being used by magath.

That's true but still you can expect from a striker that he scores at least some goals on awayground every once in a while like Ballack who also has to defend a lot.

Another sad fact, Pizarro scores both goals to lift Bayern to victory and what? Nobody says a damn thing about Pizarro. Only Vince with his "scores away from home after over a year" hah! Makaay scores and this whole thread goes bananas.

Sorry but Bayern need a Makaay in good shape to win big games. He can lead a team to victories like he showed us at the beginning of this season and last year.

Bayern and bayern fan mentality are alike, thats for sure. You know what? Yea you guys are right, I may not really be a bayern fan because of the screwed up mentality that i refuse to fall under. SO there, I said, alot of you must be very happy. But, make no mistake, fact is makaay is your undeserving God and Pizarro is just makaay's striking partner. And again, i'm not saying this because I'm Peruvian, or else i'd be all over Guerrero also. But Pizarro gets no respect, never got any since day one.. and should for that reason leave Bayern. And I hope he does too... sooner than later.

He gets no respect? What a load of bullcrap. He's been a regular since he arrived, if he didn't like it here he wouldn't have extended his contract. Also you can't generalize all Bayern fans. You can see "Pizza" banners at every home games. Some fans have a higher opinion of him than Makaay, other say Bayern need a better striker beside Makaay. I've defended him last in the past years when a few fans wanted to get rid of him.

 

[ShiftyPowers]

Here are the facts: Since 2003/2004 Makaay has scored 52 Bundesliga goals in 76 starts; Pizzaro since 2002/2003 has scored 41 in 69 starts in the Bundesliga. Makaay's rate is 0.68, Pizzaro's is 0.59.

Pizzaro has scored more goals in his Bayern career, with 55 compared to Makaay's 52, except Makaay has been here for 2 less seasons.

In the Champions League, at Bayern since he arrived Pizzaro has 12 goals in 26 starts... Makaay has 13 goals in 20 starts (and that doesn't include when he helped lead Deportivo through the Tournament with 9 goals in 11, although I won't include that).

As you can see, Makaay's rate is higher and his volume of goals is REALLY higher. Yeah, maybe Pizzaro is in the shadow, but that's because he just isn't as good as Makaay and doesn't score as many or as frequently. Makaay is one of the best strikers in the world, that's not a knock on Pizzaro at all. I don't think he's under appreciated, none of us really like Santa Cruz and we know that he's the next viable option. And by the way, those totals are just based on starts, Pizzaro has come off the bench far more than Makaay has, so if you want to average out the goals per minute Makaay's goal scoring rate is FAR superior to Pizzaro's.

 

[djgperu1]

because Pizarro is considered.. Makaay's partner...
what about assistances?? find the stats.. for that..
how many assist has pizarro given to makaay???
or the other way around

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remember that he is used as a 2ND STRIKER... who collaborates more with the team...

 

[Deisler]

I hope we trade both Peruvians so these people go bark somwhere else bout Pizarro/Guerrero being second to other strikers.
Pathetic, i've said it before im repeating it Peruvian fans could care less how Bayern doesn. All that matters to them is their 2 paesanos.

 

[Pizarro14]

I hope we trade both Peruvians so these people go bark somwhere else bout Pizarro/Guerrero being second to other strikers.
Pathetic, i've said it before im repeating it Peruvian fans could care less how Bayern doesn. All that matters to them is their 2 paesanos.

o ok seriously don't be starting sh!t unless ur gonna talk out of ur a$$, cuz what ur saying is total bullcrap



oh btw


Bayern Munich have offered Willy Sagnol a new deal in order to ward off interest from other clubs.

Italian giants Juventus and Real Madrid have expressed an interest in the French international.

Sagnol's current contract at Bayern expires next summer and he could leave Bayern on a free transfer at the end of the season.

Bayern are keen to keep hold of him and the player's agent Stephane Courbis admitted although a number of sides are keen on Sagnol Bayern are the only ones to make an offer to extend the full back's stay in Munich.

"The only important economical offer received until now by Sagnol is Bayern Munich's one," Courbis told Gazzetta dello Sport.

"We have a meeting with Bayern at the beginning of December and only after that talk everything will be clearer."

Courbis revealed Sagnol is in no rush to decide his future and he admitted Juventus were pushing hard to lure him to Turin.

"Sagnol has been at Bayern for six years and before this step he wants to think about it.

"But this doesn't mean he has already signed for another club.

"He has offers from the best European clubs. In Italy there is Juve interest. We will see".

 

[romero]

Highlights

Nice! Bayern made Zuma cry

Where was Makaay? He wasn't in any one of those highlites.

 

[Hendrik]

because Pizarro is considered.. Makaay's partner...
what about assistances?? find the stats.. for that..
how many assist has pizarro given to makaay???
or the other way around

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remember that he is used as a 2ND STRIKER... who collaborates more with the team...

2003/2004:
Pizarro 31 games, 11 goals, 4 assists
Makaay 32 games, 23 goals, 4 assists

2004/2005:
Pizarro 23 games, 11 goals, 3 assists
Makaay 33 games, 22 goals, 13 assists

 

[peruytu]

Nice! Bayern made Zuma cry

Where was Makaay? He wasn't in any one of those highlites.

Makaay is somewhere there, but it was Pizarro who won the game for Bayern...
but then again you wouldnt know that by the thread's reaction.

 

[peruytu]

I hope we trade both Peruvians so these people go bark somwhere else bout Pizarro/Guerrero being second to other strikers.
Pathetic, i've said it before im repeating it Peruvian fans could care less how Bayern doesn. All that matters to them is their 2 paesanos.

FU and I hope so too buddy. It will be a happy day when Pizarro gets sold to another team. And yeah, I could care or give a **** about Bayern... you happy marica? But dont get it wrong by generalizing us Peruvians, because our friend Pizarro14 is a true bayern fan and Peruvian. So your garbage talk isnt going anywhere. The only generalization that should made here is that whatever Bayern do and say, Bayern fans follow like the little lost sheep that they've always been, punk.

I think i'm done here, Adios!

 

[ShiftyPowers]

2003/2004:
Pizarro 31 games, 11 goals, 4 assists
Makaay 32 games, 23 goals, 4 assists

2004/2005:
Pizarro 23 games, 11 goals, 3 assists
Makaay 33 games, 22 goals, 13 assists

Yeah, looks like Makaay is just selfish and they force your God Pizarro to give the ball up to him all the time. 3 assists for a season? If what you say is true about Pizarro being forced to assist Makaay, the Peruvian has a lot of explaining to do about his lack of production.

Of course what you say isn't true, so.....

 

[ShiftyPowers]

The only generalization that should made here is that whatever Bayern do and say, Bayern fans follow like the little lost sheep that they've always been, punk.

Hmm.... Maybe that's because Bayern have proven to know what they're doing, we owe them our trust. They bought Ismael and I was skeptical because I figured we should have spent more money on a bigger name, but he's worked out well. If they let Ballack go (MY FAVORITE PLAYER IN THE WORLD BAR NONE) I will be mad, but as they always say "No player is bigger than the club." Are you a fan of a player or a team? Players can't win anything by themselves, so supporting a single player over the club is stupid; even if you are a fan for one player and switch loyalties with the player, you need to support the team as a whole, because one player is nothing without the club.