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Aussies cry: It's the world against us!

Pancho

Youth Team
In this forum some Australians (not all) are acting like everybody's against them, and like FIFA doesn't want them to qualify. They came up with conspiracy theories that if they had beaten Uruguay FIFA would've leave them out anyway. I even read somewhere in this forum that if Australia was the host FIFA would leave them out.

Guys FIFAdidn't elimanate you, Uruguay did 3-0.
Take it like a man, and not like a bunch of sissy's.
 

ZePenguin

Starting XI
Hehe yeah, i don't understand how thay can say they deserve the qualification and uruguay don't when they were beaten, not 1-0, not 2-0 but 3-0 !!!
 

ShearerM4

Fan Favourite
sad

I do feel that the Aussies were hard done by ....
as I heard Auss only lost 1 game all along .. And Uruguay lot about 10 .. and still qulified in teh end
 

ZePenguin

Starting XI
Re: sad

Originally posted by ShearerM4
I do feel that the Aussies were hard done by ....
as I heard Auss only lost 1 game all along .. And Uruguay lot about 10 .. and still qulified in teh end

yeah but they lost against the only valuable team they met...
 
Look at it this way:
The only team they played, that was of any class was Uruguay.
But they weren't better than that they lost about ten games.
Australia was beaten by Uruguay fair and square.
How can Australia be good enough for the World Cup when they loose to a team that lost so many games???
 

Pancho

Youth Team
You can't compare losing to teams like Argentia, Colombia and Paraguay to beating west Simoa or something like that 31-0. That loss shows the world what they're made of. My country Netherlands Antilles (that was the first team to be elimanated, since we lost in 1999 to Trinidad) would beat West Simoa. Sommon 31-0. And by the by Uruguay lost 5 games.(out of 18).
 

Gareth

Starting XI
Re: Aussies cry: It's the world against us!

Originally posted by Pancho
In this forum some Australians (not all) are acting like everybody's against them, and like FIFA doesn't want them to qualify. They came up with conspiracy theories that if they had beaten Uruguay FIFA would've leave them out anyway. I even read somewhere in this forum that if Australia was the host FIFA would leave them out.

If you would have noticed that most of those comments were made sarcastically.

As for the Qualifying, its very difficult for the rest of the world to understand what really goes on with Soccer Australia and FIFA unless you live here, and well even if you do live here you have to be closley involved with football to really understand the situation.
 

kewell_viduka

Club Supporter
The score line 3-0 doesn't explain the game properly though. The third goal was scored with basically 2 defenders on the field because it was all or nothing as we needed just 1 goal to get through. So it wasn't a normal premier league thrashing where if you win you get 3 points, draw 1 etc..

Like Farina said, we only needed to score a goal, and we didn't.
 
K

KADER

Guest
Re: sad

Originally posted by ShearerM4
I do feel that the Aussies were hard done by ....
as I heard Auss only lost 1 game all along .. And Uruguay lot about 10 .. and still qulified in teh end

I Tottaly agree! After what Uruguayan fans did to Australian players URUGUAY should be disqualified from the World Cup!
It's not fair that 1st team has to play with 5th team, to get to World Cup! It's WORLD Cup! We should see teams from everywhere!
 

Ruben Sosa

El Jovato
Australia are sorelossers. No offence, but you people need to stop whinning.

Before it was 100% sure that Uruguay would play Australia all the Aussies (and some other people I know in RL) were "Yeah because if Uruguay play us we'll kick the living shit out of them" now it's "Yeah we lost, but Uruguay is a really good team". Make up your minds!

Also, if Uruguay should be eliminated from the World Cup because of the acts of 40 idiotic fans, then Colombia would go thru, because I'm 200% sure Colombia would kill Australia.

Australia got scared, and they lost. It happens all the time. Good luck in 2006.
 

mikasalo32

Youth Team
Originally posted by Ruben Sosa
Australia are sorelossers. No offence, but you people need to stop whinning.

Before it was 100% sure that Uruguay would play Australia all the Aussies (and some other people I know in RL) were "Yeah because if Uruguay play us we'll kick the living shit out of them" now it's "Yeah we lost, but Uruguay is a really good team". Make up your minds!


We arent sore losers( most anyway) and yeah some people said "We're gonna kick the shit out of Uruguay", but that is just normal talk when your playing another team. I'm sure if you look at one of last week's Arsenal vs Man U threads, there was probably heaps of people saying were gonna kick Arsenal's ass an etc. So it's just normal shit when people say that so don't take it as though we're a bunch sore losers,cos that's pretty far from the truth.
 

Gareth

Starting XI
OK how is this for fair, no disrespect to Uruguay they qualified, but this is to highlight the stupidity of the qualifying process by FIFA:

Australia's Record:
Played- 8
Won- 7
Lost- 1
Drawn- 0
For-73
Against-4
Diff.-69
Win %- 87.5%

Uruguay's Record:
Played- 20
Won- 8
Lost- 7
Drawn- 5
For- 22
Against-14
Diff.- 8
Win %- 40%

And Uruguay qualify and Australia dont. Youll all say 'but look who Australia play', thats not our fault, and remember its football anything can happen, its still 11 men vs 11 men.
 

Dirlewanger

Reserve Team
BBC digital news has reported that Viduka is going to retire from international football shortly.

Is this a major blow to Oz? whats his caps/goals record?
 

Gareth

Starting XI
This is what Theworldgame had to say about it:

Mark Viduka admitted that he may put his international career on hold following Australia's failure in Montevideo, but coach Frank Farina believes that he will reconsider.

The Socceroos striker has now been part of two failed World Cup campaigns - 1998 in France and 2002 in Japan and Korea.

Viduka said he would turn his attention to Leeds United's assault on the English Premier League after Australia lost its second leg World Cup qualifier 3-0 to Uruguay.

"I don't know if I'm going to back up after this," Viduka told The Sydney Morning Herald newspaper. It's exhausting, mentally exhausting.

"Yeah, I'll probably go back to concentrating on club football.

"I was planning on making the World Cup and all the hype around that, but it's not to be."

Viduka criticised Australia's tough World Cup qualification process but said Uruguay was a worthy winner.

"The whole two game thing just kills us. We have such an unfair route to qualify," he said.

"I mean, they've lost about 10 games in their group and we've lost one but we're out."

However, Farina said that Viduka may reassess his position in time. The comments were made immediately after the heartbreaking loss in Uruguay.

The Socceroos boss came to the defence of his burly striker when asked if Viduka's performances were sub-par.

"It's inevitable that people are going to be criticised. I will be criticised, other players will be criticised. It's the natural progression of things.

"It goes from disappointment to who do we blame to anger.

"Mark brings something to the team. I will never criticise any of the players. The commitment was there and it was unfortunate that we couldn't get the goal we needed."

Australian captain Paul Okon said the scoreline flattered the hosts.

"I don't think there were three goals in this game, and if there were three goals some of them should have been for us," he said.
"It's the hardest result I've had to deal with."

Australia goalkeeper Mark Schwarzer was more blunt in his assessment.

"In the two years since I've been involved, this was probably our worst performance," he said.

"You can blame whoever you want but, at the end of the day, we just didn't perform.

"We conceded two very soft goals and that killed us. We didn't deserve to go through. That doesn't mean it isn't hard to take."

Socceroos Stan Lazaridis and Tony Vidmar - who cried openly as he left the field after the 3-0 loss - held off on talk of retirement after the game.

"Hopefully next time we'll have a better qualifying process - direct qualification or going through Asia," Vidmar told The Sydney Morning Herald.

"Every time we miss out, it makes you want to do it more. I don't see why I should retire from the national team."

Socceroo Brett Emerton took the opportunity to apologise to fans.
"The fans have been fantastic to us. We knew how much reaching the World Cup meant to people and we feel terrible about it," Emerton told The Daily Telegraph newspaper.

"We feel worse for the people back home than we do for ourselves - this has gone straight to the heart."

Emerton admitted it was hard to block out the 65,000-strong Montevideo crowd during the crucial second leg World Cup playoff.
"I've never experienced anything like that...it didn't happen for us but that's not to say we didn't give it everything because we did," he said.

"We were all on a high after the first leg (won 1-0 by Australia) and we expected nothing less than to go through to Japan and Korea."

Australian players kept their deep disappointment to themselves after the 3-0 loss, failing to appear at a media conference for the world's press and jetting out of Uruguay within hours of the final whistle.

Coach Frank Farina was the lone Australian at a packed news conference at Montevideo's Estadio Centenario, alongside his opposite number Victor Pua and three Uruguayan stars.
 

Jono82

Senior Squad
In the AFL (Australian Football League)... Teams which are drawn on points are then separated on a Percentage System

(Points For / Points Against) * 100

Australia - F: 73 A: 4 .... Percentage 1825! :D :D :D (NO there isn't a miscalculation... that's what it is!!!)

Uruguay - F: 22 A: 14.... Percentage 157.14! (Which is STILL about 10% Better than ESSENDON when they won 24 of 25 Games in 2000!)

Unfortunately FIFA doesn't look at this when they are handing out HALF of the WC places to Europe and HALF of Sth America!

A percentage of 1825% means that Australia would have scored 18.25 Goals for Every 1 they conceded!

Australia 18.25 : 1
Uruguay 1.57 : 1
 

Ruben Sosa

El Jovato
Ok, fine. You play Brazil, Argentina, Paraguay, Colombia, Ecuador, Bolivia (they'll kick your butts in La Paz), Peru, Chile and Venezuela. See how well YOU do. The only team you have a chance against is Chile because they've had some trouble preparing for the World Cup. I'd like to see you doing better than us in a group with those teams. We lost 5 games, 1 to Argentina, 1 to Venezuela, 1 to Colombia and 2 to Paraguay. They're no pushovers you know. Argentina is being herald as the next World Champion. Colombia was unlucky to be left out of the WC. And Paraguay can kick your butt any day of the week and twice on Sunday. Venezuela was Uruguay's only mistake, I can't excuse the poor effort the team put against them.

You play shitty teams all year round and then complain about how great your record is compared to us. Those teams couldn't beat the Cebollitas and you still keep complaining how you should be the rightful World Cup Qualifier instead of Uruguay. Give me a break, you're worst then Peñarol, every time they lose "Oh yeah, but the whole AUF is against us" and they control the f*cking AUF.

You were beaten fair and square. You don't like it, go tell it to FIFA. But don't go around saying how Australia has a Better record than Uruguay, because that's just talking out of your ass.
 


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