As quoted by someone in the FIFA 2005 forum...

[Zygalski]

The issue is not who put the features into the game first.
The issue is EA make every aspect of their games sound like the best thing since sliced best with all this TM crap around it as if they invented the whole concept of everything in football.

 

[Everlast]

Originally posted by ishan1990
Alright..... I've said it before and i'll say it again.

Remember when Fifa first came out??
Remember what they used to kick around in the game?
IT WAS A FOOTBALL
When Konami came out with the game did anyone say WTF!! there copying EA They are using a football!!

Of Course Not

Why???


Because the football belongs to the sport.
Its not called copying!

They are releasing a similar item. Konami took some stuff from Fifas game and vice versa. Its all the same sport a lot of its going to be the same, but interpreted differently.

Thats BullSh*t ! [ishan1990] Please go home and do some research before you open your mouth. Konami released their first soccer game way way earlier than EA. The first EA sports - FIFA soccer game is released in 1994 some people may call it FIFA95. IN the same year(1994), Konami released ISS2 (International Superstar Soccer 2). MIND you, that is already the SECOND version.

Lets just do a little history review!

Whats already in ISS2:
- Referee and Linesman
- Radar
- Dynamic crowd
- Accelerate run
- Different hairstyles
- Players name & number with a decent interface
- Unpredictable gameplay

Whats in FIFA95:
- 11 players for each side
- Poor interface
- Green pitch
- Poor AI
- Scripted gameplay (TM) by EA (Why and What are Scripted??)
>>> The corner kick system. You only can select one of your player to recevie the corner kick.
>>> Guaranteed goal when you shoot from outside the penalty box at 45' degree.
>>> Your player can stand right infont of the opponent's goalkeeper, and the goalkeeper's freekick will hit on you then you can immediately score.
>>> 40 - 50 yards Guided missile.

That is NOT true to say FIFA released earlier than WE. Keep in mind, Konami just changed the name to WE/PES in these few years. Please stop giving Wrong information, It tells us you must be a kid or just start your console/computer gaming experience in this TWO years!

Here is the screenshot for ISS2 and FIFA95 in Super Nintendo back in 1994 ~!!

 

[:: JJ ::]

Another problem with FIFA 95 was the heading - it was totally automatic, if the ball was in the air, one of your players would head it without you pressing anything.

It got annoying, for example, if the ball was in the air outside the area and you wanted to let the ball drop to take a shot - the player would head it to some random place, usually out for a goal kick.

 

[Ebonix]

Originally posted by Everlast
Thats BullSh*t ! [ishan1990] Please go home and do some research before you open your mouth. Konami released their first soccer game way way earlier than EA. The first EA sports - FIFA soccer game is released in 1994 some people may call it FIFA95. IN the same year(1994), Konami released ISS2 (International Superstar Soccer 2). MIND you, that is already the SECOND version.

Lets just do a little history review!

Whats already in ISS2:
- Referee and Linesman
- Radar
- Dynamic crowd
- Accelerate run
- Different hairstyles
- Players name & number with a decent interface
- Unpredictable gameplay

Whats in FIFA95:
- 11 players for each side
- Poor interface
- Green pitch
- Poor AI
- Scripted gameplay (TM) by EA (Why and What are Scripted??)
>>> The corner kick system. You only can select one of your player to recevie the corner kick.
>>> Guaranteed goal when you shoot from outside the penalty box at 45' degree.
>>> Your player can stand right infont of the opponent's goalkeeper, and the goalkeeper's freekick will hit on you then you can immediately score.
>>> 40 - 50 yards Guided missile.

That is NOT true to say FIFA released earlier than WE. Keep in mind, Konami just changed the name to WE/PES in these few years. Please stop giving Wrong information, It tells us you must be a kid or just start your console/computer gaming experience in this TWO years!

Here is the screenshot for ISS2 and FIFA95 in Super Nintendo back in 1994 ~!!

Ahhh! Memories

 

[Zakov]

that reminds me of how many times i used to smash my genesis controller pad to the wall while i was playing FiFa 96'.........................thanks Everlast..

 

[ishan1990]

I had 95 and i dont seem to remember any problems with the heading. Maybe it was another game after that. About ISS i didn't know......

I agree with Zygalski, if there is going to be an issue its that EA overhypes and overmarkets everything for FIFA. It cant really be called copying

 

[ibo]

lol @ everlast

 

[ishan1990]

This company seriously needs to stop changing names!!

Pro Evolution Soccer
Winning Eleven
and now
International Superstar Soccer?

Thats a lot......

 

[:: JJ ::]

It doesn't matter what name Konami give their games, they still give a two fingered salute to EA's substandard efforts!

 

[PhiLLer]

Someone mentioned that EA copied features from Konami, fair enough but what features did Konami "copy" from EA? Bad gameplay? I think not.

 

[:: JJ ::]

Originally posted by PhiLLer
Someone mentioned that EA copied features from Konami, fair enough but what features did Konami "copy" from EA? Bad gameplay? I think not.

Fake names like No 1, No 2, No 3, etc. in FIFA 2002

 

[[mouta-FCP]]

Originally posted by PhiLLer
Someone mentioned that EA copied features from Konami, fair enough but what features did Konami "copy" from EA? Bad gameplay? I think not.

Dirty kits, referee on the pitch, at least this for WE8, they needed to copy much more...

 

[Bredrin]

Each game attempts to replicate the game of soccer/football...both in aesthetics and the actual game itself as its played on the field. One game or one company does it better than the other. No game is stealing anything from another I have not seen anything to believe thats true.

What I do see is More innovation from one game over the years than the other and that give Konami's soccer game the edge. If any game should be accused of stealing something its stealing ideas from the actual game of footbal ...which is the whole point of creating a football video game to begin with.

 

[ishan1990]

Originally posted by Bredrin
Each game attempts to replicate the game of soccer/football...both in aesthetics and the actual game itself as its played on the field. One game or one company does it better than the other. No game is stealing anything from another I have not seen anything to believe thats true.

What I do see is More innovation from one game over the years than the other and that give Konami's soccer game the edge. If any game should be accused of stealing something its stealing ideas from the actual game of footbal ...which is the whole point of creating a football video game to begin with.

Thats exactly what i've been saying!!
At least somebody gets it!!

 

[Hans]

Originally posted by PhiLLer
Someone mentioned that EA copied features from Konami, fair enough but what features did Konami "copy" from EA? Bad gameplay? I think not.

I think Konami copied the "free cam" mode durin` replay. Replays with "Free Cam" has always been EA`s trademark since FIFA 95. But then again for some brilliant dumb reason they took it away in FIFA 2003 with the training mode . . .

 

[niceman]

I agree to disagree on the guys who agree?!

 

[Hans]

To all FIFA fanboys who keeps wankin` bout how great the player`s 3D model is, JUST LOOK AT HOW KOLLER IS SHORTER THAN FRINGS !!!!!!

 

[Bummy_JaB]

lol WTF???????? Koller is a freakin giant man. that is just wrong.

 

[Mayor]

the funniest thing is that fifa boot textures are nearly photorealistic, but ingame they look extremaly awful
PES/WE boots are much more realistic ingame

and at least who cares? both are games. games are for gaming and not to watching Becks face (oh I see now those new threads in fafa forum about "how to make a new tattoo on becks neck? WE NEED THIS!")

 

[MasterM]

LOOOL the player stands like he is about to start a robot battle dance contest.