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The thing is that if the people who own the club do not have any ambitions of winning what can he do? Not saying Wenger is innocent and you don't need to do a Citeh to win against ******* Birmingham but it is absolutely clear that the board's only ambition is the money spinning CL place and nothing more. If they really wanted to win they would have found a way. Wenger clearly has had his role to play in selling this "self sustaining model" bull****tery and a future that never arrives but why bother trying to win if you are the highest paid manager in the whole league for coming 4th,developing and selling players?Sir Sir_Didier_Drogba;3266334 said:Benayoun is a Chelsea player who spent one year at Arsenal on loan and is now back at Chelsea where he has another year on his contract to run. Arsene bought him in last minute to add depth to a depleted squad and he was fairly successful.
The problem is that thus far Arsene Wenger does not seem to be able take any advantage from his high profile sales. The way these things should work is that clubs who have fallen out of the top tier should find talent, turn them into valuable players and sell them on at a premium (so far so good for Mr Wenger) but then use the proceeds of those sales to bring in a mix of new talent and stars with artificially low price tags and club expectations (ie quality players sitting on the bench at clubs like City or with something else artificially lowering their rep). This way you gradually increase the depth of your squad whilst having new stars come through to replace those which leave and and is the only way to get back to the top if you dont have a billionaire owner throwing money around. Wenger, however (whether through pressure from Kroenke or, as I suspect, his own stubbornness) WILL NOT reinvest this money or negotiate the sales tactically. He seems to snobbishly think that once a player is "tarnished", he is not worthy of coming to Arsenal, the club of pure football (contrast this with Redknapp who had great success putting his trust in players which were "tarnished" and therefore artificially cheap eg van der vaart or adebayor) and he seems to also believe that spending a penny more than rock bottom on a player is a waste because he has created the liked of Fabregas and van Persie from nothing (or very little) and thinks he can do it again and again and again. Yes, maybe he will have more strokes of genius like that, but those alone cant rescue a club, they take time, they do not help with the issue of depth and as a result they merely create top stars to be sold to top clubs for big fees which are absolutely useless if not reinvested or properly negotiated, and therefore the cycle continues.
You see I think Wenger is the one responsible for the financial approach. I refuse to believe that at the least the board would not have been more than happy to put the entire revenue from the Fabregas and Nasri sales completely as his disposal for reinvestment.poet11;3266352 said:The thing is that if the people who own the club do not have any ambitions of winning what can he do? Not saying Wenger is innocent and you don't need to do a Citeh to win against ******* Birmingham but it is absolutely clear that the board's only ambition is the money spinning CL place and nothing more. If they really wanted to win they would have found a way.
Sir Sir_Didier_Drogba;3266370 said:Let's be fair to van Persie, for all those years he was injured 60% of the time, inconsistent, receiving the best medical treatment money can buy and top class coaching whilst being paid week in week out for not playing most of the time, he remained completely loyal to Arsenal.
Sir Sir_Didier_Drogba;3266358 said:You see I think Wenger is the one responsible for the financial approach. I refuse to believe that at the least the board would not have been more than happy to put the entire revenue from the Fabregas and Nasri sales completely as his disposal for reinvestment.
Arnau;3267220 said:
Sir Sir_Didier_Drogba;3268182 said:Why havent you signed M'Vila yet?