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will be happy with the premiership...any more trophies will be a bonus !
SAF will be gone if we win the treble though
SAF will be gone if we win the treble though
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pede54;2298890 said:No, they have 4 or 5 very good players, but the rest are average or dross. Without Ronaldo this season they would be sitting mid table and that says it all really. Of course they have been doing well, but their position has as much to do with the underachievement of other clubs that are in contention this season than anything else.
Take away Ronaldo, Rooney, Giggs, Van der Sar and perhaps Scholes, and you are left with not much at all.
This aint a dig but get real about the situation. I remember Arsenal going a season unbeaten on the strength of some very dubious penalties, and Man U would have dropped many points this season if they hadn't have had the same good fortune, (and thats being polite) along the way.
You need luck to do well in the league too and Man U have had a good deal of that this season.
Lets see what the Belgians do to Ronaldo this weekend, and if he does get seriously injured as they have intimated, then we will see just how much verve the Man U team have left for the rest of the season.
Help?;2298936 said:Where would Chelsea be without Drogba either? If we take away Drogba, Robben, Essien, Cech, Terry and Carvalho, then your team would probably struggle midtable too. Tell me one team in the world that when taken away 5 World Class players will still be left with at least 11 players of World Class level? Even Chelsea doesn't have that, the teams that have depth are the ones that have good average players. And just like Chelsea, United's average players performed well when called upon this season, unlike previous seasons. I don't see how our situation is any different from other great clubs in the past, but you talk about it like United were somekind of underdog that just out of nowhere got immensly lucky. Sure we got lucky with barely having any real injuries this season, but that makes up for the fact that we would have more than half our starting team injuried for most of the season in previous years.
And Belgians won't be injuring Ronaldo, what they said is that they will have to get tough and aggressive on Portugese team, otherwise they will get raped 7-0, which is exactly what almost every other team has been doing against United. It was a simple underdog team speech about the game plan and the newspaper yet once again showed that when it has to do with Ronaldo in a way, it is the most important news in the world.
Take away Ronaldinho, Deco, Eto'o, Puyol and perhaps Messi, what do you have?pede54;2298890 said:No, they have 4 or 5 very good players, but the rest are average or dross. Without Ronaldo this season they would be sitting mid table and that says it all really. Of course they have been doing well, but their position has as much to do with the underachievement of other clubs that are in contention this season than anything else.
Take away Ronaldo, Rooney, Giggs, Van der Sar and perhaps Scholes, and you are left with not much at all.
This aint a dig but get real about the situation. I remember Arsenal going a season unbeaten on the strength of some very dubious penalties, and Man U would have dropped many points this season if they hadn't have had the same good fortune, (and thats being polite) along the way.
You need luck to do well in the league too and Man U have had a good deal of that this season.
Lets see what the Belgians do to Ronaldo this weekend, and if he does get seriously injured as they have intimated, then we will see just how much verve the Man U team have left for the rest of the season.
untouchable;2299147 said:Take away Ronaldinho, Deco, Eto'o, Puyol and perhaps Messi, what do you have?
Take away Lampard, Terry, Cech, Makelele and Drogba and what do you have?
No club on earth has a second string team equal to the first team, so you have no point really. I know the thread is about United, but that doesn't mean you have to undermine every single thing we did this season. It also doesn't mean you could undermine everything Arsenal did in their unbeaten season either, because they played some brilliant football.
No, I'm not 'admitting' anything. You have a way of putting across your point as if it's fact, when it's not, then you try to tell people to "admit it and move on". How about you admit you're a moron and move on? It'll make things a lot smoother around here.pede54;2299167 said:Its been dealt with already.....
I'm not undermining anything mate. My my you are sensitive arn't you? I am simply pointing out that like Arsenal in their "unbeaten" season, Man U this season have managed to benefit from some very dubious calls that gave them all three points at the end of a game. That is a true statement, and not a dig at all. It's a fact. Just admit it and move on mate.
untouchable;2299173 said:No, I'm not 'admitting' anything. You have a way of putting across your point as if it's fact, when it's not, then you try to tell people to "admit it and move on". How about you admit you're a moron and move on? It'll make things a lot smoother around here.
I could count the amount of "dubious" calls we've gotten this season on one hand. The fact is, we've out scored you, out defended you and overall been way better than you this season, period, with a fraction of your budget. Same with Arsenal, they outplayed everyone in their unbeaten season. Your team though? Naah, you didn't outplay ****, you're a team of 30 million pound drones unleashed by Mourinho on the prem to be brutally efficient and nothing more. It was only a matter of time before a superior footballing team knocked your asses off your perch.