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a lighter impact on gerrard
- Thread starter Arnau
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Platini? He doesn't care about Marseille! We're still waitin' for a declaration about Santos Mirasierra, this fan kept in jail for 2 months!
UEFA sanctions against Atletico were not Platini sanctions, you have to understand that. French teams are not promoted by Platini, and I guess you'll see it with this lighter..
UEFA sanctions against Atletico were not Platini sanctions, you have to understand that. French teams are not promoted by Platini, and I guess you'll see it with this lighter..
Sevillista
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ShearerM4;2595068 said:
"Yess, 'ello. Michel speekin"
Arnau
NGR LVR
ULTRA SOUTH;2595621 said:
¡Qué pasa en Francia cuando un ciudadano agrede a un policía. Me gustaría saber si eso no es delito en Francia. Dejemos de patrioterismo barato y que los franceses drespndan a eso. Este sr. esta detenido por agresión a la autoridad. El juez, dictaminará si es o no culpable de los cargos que se le imputan. Y los franceses deberían ser mas respetuosos con la justicia, pero me parece a mi que eso no es así, eamos el ejemplo de Platiní, él tiene dos varas de medir, ante unos incidentes provocados por lo inchas francceses en dos partidos diferente ha actuado de distinta forma. Bravo Platini, siempre tan valiente y dando ejemplo de justicia.
PS: maybe someone can traslate... i dont wanna think
Arnau, malheureusement, celui-la ne parle pas espagnol...
Moi non plus
My stabby-jabby at a traducion:
What happens in France when a citizen attacks a policeman? I'd like to know if this is not a violent crime in France. Let's stop this cheap patriotism so that the french can reply to this. That monsieur was detained for aggression against the authorities. The judge whether or not that guy is guilty of the charges for which he's been put behind bars. And the French should be more respectful of justice, but it seems to me, someone who isn't like that, the eaxmple of Platini, he has two ways to measure, since one provocational incident by the "inchas" French in two different matches had actually two different forms. Bravo Platini, always so valiant and a great example of justice.
Moi non plus
My stabby-jabby at a traducion:
What happens in France when a citizen attacks a policeman? I'd like to know if this is not a violent crime in France. Let's stop this cheap patriotism so that the french can reply to this. That monsieur was detained for aggression against the authorities. The judge whether or not that guy is guilty of the charges for which he's been put behind bars. And the French should be more respectful of justice, but it seems to me, someone who isn't like that, the eaxmple of Platini, he has two ways to measure, since one provocational incident by the "inchas" French in two different matches had actually two different forms. Bravo Platini, always so valiant and a great example of justice.
Arnau said:
And what happens when a citizen is attacked by a policeman?? Spanish police used violence at first! Did OM fans have to stay quiet and accept to be injured? No, it was more self-defence! Now they found a scapegoat to legitimate their violence! Santos is a victim, not a guilty man..
Did you follow his trial? Policemen did not agree on what happened this night! Santos pushed a policeman, yeah, but he was protecting a woman who was on the floor! Santos is not a coward, he has to be sorry of that.. Santos will spend 3 ½ years in jail! Do you understand that? Did he kill somebody? Did he injure a policeman? Definitely not!
In France? Last week, during Nantes-Le Havre, supporters fought with police! A guy have been arrested and he'll spend 3... MONTHS in jail!
And did you remember what happened during WC 1998 in France? German hooligans hit a policeman, Daniel Nivel, who spend 6 weeks in coma! One of these hooligans stayed 5 years in jail..
Marseille fans are now considered as violent hooligans by Europe, which is totaly wrong. Ultras went all around Europe without any problem, they spend most of their time supporting l'OM without violence!
I'm not using "patrioterismo barato", I'm denouncing injustice.
Arnau
NGR LVR
ULTRA SOUTH;2597879 said:
mate, i'm neutral, i'm not atletico or OM fan and what i see isnt a calm ultras... there is a image of one kid crying because a piece of chair impact on his head, thanks god he dont die but these idiots wasnt in the stadium for watch football and i cant undersant how his own fans support him, againts de violents tolerance 0 ! !
Arnau;2598290 said:
Yeah don't worry Arnau, I've nothing against you, but I'm sad to see how Santos and a fortiori OM ultras are considered in Spain, in Europe. Santos is not a murderer, I know he used violence but it was self-defence against cops with cudgels, shields and helmets. I guess I would have the same reaction than him in this kind of situation.
Then I can't deny these thrown chairs on cops, just a few idiots among 1,000 persons. I know Marseille Ultras, and I can say they are not hooligans. Thousand of supporters, men, women, children, each week on the road in France and in Europe. Marseille is a multi-ethnical city, where our team, l'OM, is an institution as important as our own family! Everybody here supports l'OM, and Santos is one of them. He is a Ultra leader who can organize with his group some charity events, far far away from this violent image they want to give him.
Anyway, Santos is free for 2 months, he'll spend this festive season in Marseille, with his family. I salute the Spanish justice decision, releasing Santos just before OM-Atletico game!
Now I hope the second verdict will be more lenient! He does not deserved to stay in jail..
