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3 more FIFA 07 videos from Beta Version

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caseira

Youth Team
Ok guys, we really should talk about fifa here not about each other.

The animations are no doubt improved but as Biggy says, and considering the level that games are right now, especially with the next-gen, we don't think they look fluid as they should. And i'm telling this for both games FIFA and WE. Both have players running like robotics cartoon characters. It really needs a new "Fluid animation system" mainly while they are running.
Is Fifa07 better then 06 or WC? Yes. But how big was the step? From the videos so far, not that big.
And the engine really should be changed! They change it every 4 years, but this one is almost 6 years old. The 360 is going to have a new engine, i just don't think the pc version is going to have that new engine for this years games, they must have some kind of agreement to sell more 360s. Maybe in 2008 the PC version is going to have the new engine.
 
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deftonesmx17

Reserve Team
I'd say the robotic movements have something to do with current gen consoles. You have to remember that the base system for most multiplatform games is still the PS2, which isnt very powerful and we all know EA never uses the most of any system. Yes, even the "great" PES/WE has robotic movements, sometimes I think they look more fake than FIFA's and this is coming from a person who likes PES/WE more than FIFA.
 
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nickclubman

Starting XI
deftonesmx17 said:
I'd say the robotic movements have something to do with current gen consoles. You have to remember that the base system for most multiplatform games is still the PS2, which isnt very powerful and we all know EA never uses the most of any system. Yes, even the "great" PES/WE has robotic movements, sometimes I think they look more fake than FIFA's and this is coming from a person who likes PES/WE more than FIFA.
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I am sure Next-Gen version of FIFA 07 (that has the new 'secret' game-engine that EA SPORTS won't mention! They are mean lol) and Next-gen PES will both have much smoother and improved animations. I know 06 World Cup demo I downloaded for my xbox 360 looked and played MUCH better than on my PC. There were more animations and much smoother gameplay. Was cool.

So I'd say any hardcore football fan should hold out for the Next-gen if the "robotic" movements of current-gen are ruining the fun for ya.

Nick.
 
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SlowSilver

Fan Favourite
Well, I must admit, I have no intention of getting FIFA on current gen, because as stated previously, the movements do look very false and robotic. However, I can't wait to see when EA fully concentrate making FIFA for both the Xbox 360 and PS3. I am sure that animations will be much smoother. I've always hated the way that players don't seem to turn their heads to face the ball, they tilt it, and that makes things look a bit....well, stupid really. As we all know, next gen will allow movement that flows and looks realistic.

Can't wait. :)
 
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deftonesmx17

Reserve Team
For some reason I think 360 PES6 will only be a graphical update of current gen like RTWC 06 was on the 360. Hell would freeze over before Konami wouldnt support a non-Japanese company first, which means the game will probably be made for the PS2 and graphically enhanced for the 360. I think we will have to wait for the PS3 version of PES before its really next-gen and not just a PS2 port.
 
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drjohnnyboy

Reserve Team
deftonesmx17 said:
For some reason I think 360 PES6 will only be a graphical update of current gen like RTWC 06 was on the 360. Hell would freeze over before Konami wouldnt support a non-Japanese company first, which means the game will probably be made for the PS2 and graphically enhanced for the 360. I think we will have to wait for the PS3 version of PES before its really next-gen and not just a PS2 port.
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As much as I hate to say it, but I think you will be right (althought I hope not :) )

Anyways, PES6 will be demo-ed at the Liepzig Xbox convention next week on the 360 so we will find out soon enough

In the meantime I finally want some news on the 360 version of Fifa 07.....that they havn't said anything makes me worried that it will be a late release (Early 2007 if not actually skipping this year and coming out next fall)
 
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nickclubman

Starting XI
drjohnnyboy said:
As much as I hate to say it, but I think you will be right (althought I hope not :) )

Anyways, PES6 will be demo-ed at the Liepzig Xbox convention next week on the 360 so we will find out soon enough

In the meantime I finally want some news on the 360 version of Fifa 07.....that they havn't said anything makes me worried that it will be a late release (Early 2007 if not actually skipping this year and coming out next fall)
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No no, I believe Konami will take advantage of Next-Gen such as more animations, that ALONE makes it look more realistic, just compare the animation flow of 2006 World Cup on PC to what EA did on the 360, the game just 'looks' better and feels more 'fluid'. PC is jerky animations in comparison.

Nick.
 
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The Don't

Starting XI
nickclubman said:
No no, I believe Konami will take advantage of Next-Gen such as more animations, that ALONE makes it look more realistic, just compare the animation flow of 2006 World Cup on PC to what EA did on the 360, the game just 'looks' better and feels more 'fluid'. PC is jerky animations in comparison.

Nick.
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Why the inverted commas? Are you one of these people who wiggle their fingers in reality aswell?
 
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justhammy

Senior Squad
Heey people chill down!! ;) I am sure this Fifa will be fantastic...you can look at those video's but DONT take them serious! Just DONT! Wait for the demo. Everything what EA says is promising! The shooting, the passing, the movement, online! Its all great! Lets wait for the demo and decide. And btw, for people that say Fifa didnt develope well over the years...I love PES, but it PES5 isnt playing any different then PES 1 or 2, wich where 5 years ago! Now compare Fifa 06 to Fifa 02 ;)

No but seriously, lets just wait and see, if its bad then im the first one to admit it. But all the previews, interviews etc. sound VERY promising! And that wasnt always like that, because every year they said that it was good, but not as good as PES. Now they say that it might be better...who knows.
 
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deftonesmx17

Reserve Team
NK, I'd really like to know what version of X360 FIFA 06 WC you are playing?

The game does nothing but jerk around, how do you consider that fluid?

As for Konami taking advantage of Next-Gen, yeah once the PS3 is out. Hell, the PC version of PES5 had the same exact LOD as the PS2 version, we had to wait for juce to make LODmixer for it to even look better on the PC. At least FIFA 06 and WC06 looked better than a PS2 on the PC. Christ......Konami is slow to even release the game in different regions aside from Japan. WE10 came out how long ago? Europe is still waiting for PES6 and Americans wont see it until 2007. This is all aside form the fact that the 360 doesnt even sell well in Japan at all.

Based on all that, I will :sb9: a brick if PES6 on the 360 is anything aside from a high resolution graphical updated version of PES6 on the PS2.
 
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nickclubman

Starting XI
deftonesmx17 said:
NK, I'd really like to know what version of X360 FIFA 06 WC you are playing?

The game does nothing but jerk around, how do you consider that fluid?

As for Konami taking advantage of Next-Gen, yeah once the PS3 is out. Hell, the PC version of PES5 had the same exact LOD as the PS2 version, we had to wait for juce to make LODmixer for it to even look better on the PC. At least FIFA 06 and WC06 looked better than a PS2 on the PC. Christ......Konami is slow to even release the game in different regions aside from Japan. WE10 came out how long ago? Europe is still waiting for PES6 and Americans wont see it until 2007. This is all aside form the fact that the 360 doesnt even sell well in Japan at all.

Based on all that, I will :sb9: a brick if PES6 on the 360 is anything aside from a high resolution graphical updated version of PES6 on the PS2.
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Well if you think the 360 looked jerky, then I don't know what you'd think about the PC version. However, this could be my computer! So I'll leave that there and save up for a new graphics card haha.

Well if all Konami do is update the graphics, they'll be some pissed 360 owners who held out against the PS2 version for Next-Gen. Although in all fairness, PES5 is pretty impressive so PES6 will be better.

Nick.
 
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gamerguy350

Reserve Team
I've still seen no evidence of a brand new engine. Still looks like minor changes to the 06 engine. Is PES6 coming out around the same time as Fifa 07?
 
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