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Old 21-05-2004, 10:01:AM   #27
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yeah i know the shots sucks it happens to me in my games that i play... the corner kicks are bad too i don't really like the view
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Old 21-05-2004, 03:50:PM   #28
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in pes3 you can cross the ball the same way, 1 normal 2 for near post 3 low cross, and its brellant! is hard to score and so realystic. thats why fifa need to learn how to make enoyble gameplay. not the same boring staff evry year. i hope they will renew the gameplay with more animation better passing crossing shots drebbling more movment to feal the real football game.
i wos so desepointit with evry thing in fifa 2004 coz of the ball was crap! and i don't want ea to let as down agen like last year.
exactly, this is the system in Winning Eleven and it works great!!
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Old 22-05-2004, 05:14:AM   #29
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Not enough front end options, plus some top teams are always missing.
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Old 22-05-2004, 12:37:PM   #30
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I don't have the time or energy to fully explain ALL the horribly dissapointing details of past FIFA's. I could write a 2,000 word essay BRIEFLY outlining FIFA's hideaous shortcomings, from physics, to graphics to realism and gameplay...

constructive? what's the use, EA still produces whatever they like every year
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Old 23-05-2004, 03:46:AM   #31
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Change the set-piece system !!
when i get a foul somewhere near the opponent's goal, my player can do nothing but shoot the ball directly to the goal, which has nothing to do with realism !!
also for the corner kicks, i don't have to be limited to 3 players! it's like you tell the player "i want you to deliver the ball to player number 2" and he says "OK you got it" and that's it !!
in reality, a corner-kick taker would see who's available and who's the best man to give the ball to, and then estimates the distance and the power that he should kick the ball at to perfectly deliver the ball to his mate. STOP AUTOMATIC THINGS !!

through-balls, it was a nice idea to add it to Euro 2004 but it needs to be refined since most of them go to the wrong way and get interupted by the opponent. sometimes, giving a normal pass works better than giving a through-pass while the opposite should work better!!

i was playing a semi-final game against Portugal (i was france), and i won 7-0 in world-class level, and i was disappointed !! it's only because i know how to get the ball from the opponent, which is pretty easy !!
EA should make it TOO MUCH HARDER to get the ball from the other team.

make each player different !!
let super players super
let good players good
let normal players normal
let poor players poor
AND LET US FEEL THE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THEM !!

Last but not least,
EA's main goal should be "how to let people enjoy the game even after a year or two"
EA, you don't wanna lose the competition against Konami !!!
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Old 24-05-2004, 11:30:PM   #32
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As somebody mentioned before, it has to be the sloppiness.

Everything seems to be left half-done. Every year something nice and fancy is thrown in, but it isn't finished. Off the Ball sounded great, looked dandy in the preview videos, but in the actual game it just didn't work (reasons in previous posts). Same thing with this career mode, sounded great but when injury tables are awry, trading isn't possible for SA teams and not to mention the whole Champions League fiasco, it loses the point. It is frustrating! Interface is stubborn! Due to three different generic faces, every non-faced opponent looks the same! Appearences are wrong, feet are wrong, everything has some small or larger mistake. If there were one or two bugs I wouldn't care, but when absolutely nothing works as it should I lose my temper. I know that game developing is hard work and EA has loads of talented employees, but all this sloppiness just makes one imagine the programmers eating donoughts and playing Scorched Earth all day. Why do the NBA, NHL and NFL series always compete for the top spot game of their respective sports, but FIFA hasn't been near the podium for years? And another thing, why do all the nice features appear in the other EA games years before FIFA? NHL had seasons with all the '04 career mode features way back and NBA '96 had differing player heights in 1995! ON THE SEGA MEGADRIVE! Might be small things but, seriously, don't the different EASports divisions talk to each other and share ideas? I thought buying games from a big company with a wide array of titles ment that you could expect an all around high standard of work because the different programmers communicated and brought their knowledge together in order to lessen mistakes and to create a creative and technological edge over competitors, but no! I'm not even going to start to ponder on the reasons why the FIFA series lays so astray from the other titles.

FIFA hasn't been FUN since '98. I have found myself enjoying skateboarding games and FPS's even though I thought I disliked the whole genres. Why? Because they have few bugs and the characters do what I tell them to. Currently I am enjoying NHL '97 on my SEGA Megadrive/Genesis. It is fun. All the features work as they should, and because my players do what I want them to I am not annoyed at problems like inexistent power play formations. Every day the opponent or I score a neat goal in a way I haven't witnessed before. In the FIFA series it took two days to see all the different possible ways of scoring.

EA, why don't you just release a basic Sensible Soccer clone with no bugs and all the features working, and start building a new series from scratch? The current development of the FIFA series reminds me of my high school art projects. Nice shades of colours splashed on to canvas three hours before the work was due. I just barely passed, but that was my only goal. Is it yours as well?

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Old 25-05-2004, 12:00:AM   #33
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^ that was a great post
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Old 25-05-2004, 04:08:AM   #34
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Conry, play WE/PES and your worries will go away. (at least MOST of them).

dont attack me fanboyz,,, i used to play FIFA a lot. but now ive seen the truth!
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Old 25-05-2004, 04:23:AM   #35
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Conry, play WE/PES and your worries will go away. (at least MOST of them).

dont attack me fanboyz,,, i used to play FIFA a lot. but now ive seen the truth!
Buy me a PS2 or a new PC with a DVD drive and it's a done deal. And I have played PES countless times, but that relates to the point of this thread in no way. PES is still inferior to NHL '97, I just scored by shooting through the legs of the opposite goaltender. With my goalie (Hextall, of course!). From behind my goal. Can't see PES bringing the house down like that!
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Old 25-05-2004, 06:38:AM   #36
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trust me pes3 is great. i boughtid in october 2003 and i still played it all most every day, because you allways score diffrent goals everytime, that is why i never get bored with that game. i am not hire as pes fan Conry, coz i allways liked it fifa, but i did agree with your first post, fifa promise and lye evry year.


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Old 25-05-2004, 07:09:AM   #37
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exactly,,, i will never believe in FIFA games again unless FIFA games will be made by anyone but EA.

-half-completed games
-false promises
-overhype
-crappy gameplay

i will not invest my money into that my friends.....

hey it may not be EA's loss to not have me as a customer, but it SURE IS MY gain!
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Old 25-05-2004, 12:19:PM   #38
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exactly,,, i will never believe in FIFA games again unless FIFA games will be made by anyone but EA.

-half-completed games
-false promises
-overhype
-crappy gameplay

i will not invest my money into that my friends.....

hey it may not be EA's loss to not have me as a customer, but it SURE IS MY gain!
Yeah, I'm studying (just a basic introduction to) marketing right now and it is needless to say that whoever is in charge of bringing out FIFA has broken every rule in the book. I could do a whole case study on how not to produce and market a product. The problems start from being dishonest to the customers, but the worst thing is the purposeful lifting of the customers zone of tolerance and after that releasing a game that falls below that zone. It just makes no sense. Also from the examples in the book, I can't find one marketing or production strategy that would fit with the way the company in charge of FIFA handles things (unless they keep their production costs very low, which I doubt). Examples like these are the reasons people think "I am just a student, but I'm sure I could do the job twice as well!" And having dimwit students around the world thinking they can do EA's job better than the original employees must mean something is terribly wrong.
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Old 26-05-2004, 09:47:PM   #39
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one big thing that has to be improved is when you shoot a ball with the right inner foot the ball cant make a curve to the right side!! same with the other foot thats a big fault
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