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Old 06-11-2008, 05:15:PM   #40
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this is a very good idea... achievable, but needs gigantic effort...

i think the national teams' ids using fifa 2002 will be a great idea
not sure bout this, but it might even 'unlock' the sound files of these teams if the EA peeps did not change their sound files since 2002... ;p what are the chances? ;p
but if WC 2002 has more updated ids, of cos we'll use that...

for player ids... like rinaldo mentioned, is kinda tricky...
unless people that made new patches will sort of 'announce' the newly created players' ids here to be shared... & the rest follows it...
this has always been a prob in importing previous cmp files as well as the update of the 'infamous' CEP patch where the newly-created player & team ids were brought forward from previous fifas & were recycled without checking that these players have been added into the new fifa series, hence, duplicated players... another thing about players is that different patch makers spell the name of a player in different ways which also leads to duplicated players without the other party noticing it...

for boots, hmmm... maybe bootmakers (there aren't many around, so pretty much easier to control them) shall give the ids to these boots as & when they make them to the available slots & such?

however, i think the one most important thing right now is to break the fifa.fat limit for all of us to realise this wonderful idea!

just my 2 cents...

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Old 06-11-2008, 06:32:PM   #41
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how are stuff going ex for other things mate ? could i help you somehow?
Sure ! What about stadiums or Kit fonts ? I already asked for a support about them but I got no reply.
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Old 06-11-2008, 07:44:PM   #42
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stadiums are big deal mate...some teams use one stadium at 3 teams. i think i can do teams.
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Old 06-11-2008, 09:08:PM   #43
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stadiums are big deal mate...some teams use one stadium at 3 teams. i think i can do teams.
Bassio is already working on teams. Let's wait for his first release. If anything else is of your interest please let me know.
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Old 06-11-2008, 09:56:PM   #44
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Old 06-11-2008, 11:37:PM   #45
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What would you guys want to do with regards to boots? I'm no expert, but I know a guy who knows a guy...
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Old 07-11-2008, 05:41:AM   #46
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keeg,

i suggest that you tell the guy that you know who also seem to know another guy on the following proposition :

1) look at all the original EA boots (especially boot 0 & all the negatives), & try to replace them with maybe similar coloured boots or if this guy is more hard working, browse through the db check who (majority) wears what boot numbers & allocate a specific boot to this slot... e.g. in previous fifas, boot 2 used to be the most widely used boot, so i will use the standard adidas predators as boot 2
2) give ids to newly made boots as & when you or any of the bootmakers made a new boot... doesn't matter who makes it... as long as there's an id for them, we will know which slot to put them in

all these are a form of standardisation to make it easier to integrate the cmps like mentioned by rinaldo... e.g. you made a texture for adi f50.9 standard black... they are not in the game & i don't wanna replace it onto another boot... so i created a new boot... in cm09, it'll come as the next available slot in my fifa... for simplicity sake, let's say it's boot 1... so you bootmakers will make the call that adi f50.9 black shall be put into boot slot no.1 & evrybody (who wants their fifa to be standardised) will put this boot in slot no.1... i hope u get what i mean here...
else, if we don't do this, let's say i put it into slot 1 & another guy puts it into slot 20... both of us made a cmp patch & evry1 wants to use the patch... i gave boot 1 to player A but in the other guy's patch player A gets boot 20 cos there's where he allocated it... so when you merge the cmps... it'll be quite a mess... & to amend the dbs... it's just wa waste of time which is inefficient... ;p

& of cos, for those existing boots in the game... we know how to replace them ourselves!!!

i really do hope all these standardisation works as it'll save lotsa time for editing the dbs than palying the game!!! this comes from my experience in integrating the dbs in previous fifas which took too much of my time til i gave up... haha...

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Old 07-11-2008, 06:14:AM   #47
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could i take balls ?
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Old 07-11-2008, 09:25:AM   #48
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Hi Rinaldo, I've sent the Updated National Team ID spreadsheet to your email. Let me know when/if you have received it.
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So If i'm clear, there will be a list of ID's you must use for a new league or team, so we have all the same id's and not for example i'm using ID 35 for the dutch second league, but a german patchmaker is using ID35 for a German Thirth devision?
So we have to discuss which ID's we use for which country/teams? I think it's then also necesarry to discuss about the ID's for adboards, tournaments & Fonts, because i'm using new ID's for those things in a new league as well.

I'm now working on a Dutch (Holland) Second League, so if I understand it correctly, there will be a list of ID's soon and I have to chose the correct ones from the list?
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could i take balls ?
About balls:
with the database expansion we have 4096 balls that we can use.
Step 1) We should fill a table starting with the FIFA 09 original balls like this:

Id_Brand___Model________Colors
_1_EA______Classic______White Blue
_5_EA______Classic______White Blue
_6_Adidas__Pelias_______White Grey
_7_EA______Classic______White Blue
10_EA______Classic______White Black
11_EA______Classic______White Blue
14_Nike____Total_90_____Yellow - Blue
15_Nike____Total_90_____White Red
16_Nike____Total_90_____White Blue
17_Adidas__Fevernova____White Yellow
18_Adidas__Etrusco______White Black
19_Adidas__Telstar______White - Black
20_Adidas__Tango________White Black
21_Adidas__Tricolore____White Blue
22_Adidas__F50__________Red_ Black



Step 2) Then you could make a search of already existing balls for FIFA 07 and FIFA 08 and add a new entry in the table for them.

As a general rule: I know that there are some huge collections of balls of the same model but with a lot of different colors: in my opinion when we have assigned for or five slots of different colors for the same ball model it is enough. It is up to you to select the best ones.

We may also ask to ballmakers if they give the permission to use their ball in the CMS basic patch. If so the ball model and texture can be added to the CMS Basic Patch, otherwise we can just left only the entry in the table and nothing more.

Step 3) Last you could make a search for new Brands/Models and put a placeholder for them in the table also if the ball is not yet available for FIFA 09.
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What would you guys want to do with regards to boots? I'm no expert, but I know a guy who knows a guy...
What just said for balls applies also to boots: do you think you can help us ?
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So If i'm clear, there will be a list of ID's you must use for a new league or team, so we have all the same id's and not for example i'm using ID 35 for the dutch second league, but a german patchmaker is using ID35 for a German Thirth devision?
So we have to discuss which ID's we use for which country/teams? I think it's then also necesarry to discuss about the ID's for adboards, tournaments & Fonts, because i'm using new ID's for those things in a new league as well.

I'm now working on a Dutch (Holland) Second League, so if I understand it correctly, there will be a list of ID's soon and I have to chose the correct ones from the list?
You are correct.
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