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Old 21-07-2016, 07:20:AM   #27
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Dan is basing this on the fact that they came third in the league the season before guardiola took over. But just like city came fourth in the league last year and yet clearly had the best squad, these things do happen.
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Old 21-07-2016, 01:27:PM   #28
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It's amazing how people use bullshit just to strenghten their facts. Yeah, they had Gago, Faubert and Drenthe (Lass was good, and he was one of their best in 08-09) but their attack was Robben, Higuain, Ruud van Nistelrooy, Raul and Robinho. Pepe, Ramos and Cannavaro at the back. Sneijder, Guti etc. Stop making that team look like Leicester.

That's like saying we didn't have a great squad because we had Edmilson, Oleguer, Ezquerro and Gabi Milito. We had a great squad on the paper, but most of those players had a lot of problems that season. Xavi and Iniesta weren't in their prime yet, Messi faced a lot of injuries, Eto'o wasn't very happy, Ronaldinho and Deco were busy with anything else but playing football. Villareal deserved the 2nd place because we were shit.
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Old 21-07-2016, 02:16:PM   #29
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What Nimreitz means is that when Pep took over, Barça were trophyless for 2 years and finished 3rd 24 points away from Real Madrid.
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Old 21-07-2016, 03:56:PM   #30
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Yeah but except in the rare occasions of managers retiring or running out of contract new managers are only ever hired in 'low moments'
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Old 21-07-2016, 06:36:PM   #31
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Discussing Guardiola in 2016 is like believing the Earth is plain.
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Old 21-07-2016, 07:27:PM   #32
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I don't care if they were trophyless for 2 years or not. Guardiola inherited the squad with the best players, end of story. Barcelona may not have had a good season but they still clearly had the best swuad comprising of puyol, xavi, iniesta and messi amongst others.



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Old 21-07-2016, 07:55:PM   #33
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We know that in order to win stuff you need good players. Fuck off.
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Old 21-07-2016, 07:58:PM   #34
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I cant stand the fact a Man U fan is discussing Pep, his masterpiece team pull you 2 football humiliations in 2 CL finals...
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Old 21-07-2016, 09:06:PM   #35
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We know that in order to win stuff you need good players. Fuck off.
You need good players but his achievements are hugely overrated because he always had the best of the best players. He is an overrated manager. Put him in Arsenal with no money and see if he can achieve the same thing.
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Old 21-07-2016, 09:07:PM   #36
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I cant stand the fact a Man U fan is discussing Pep, his masterpiece team pull you 2 football humiliations in 2 CL finals...
Masterpiece? It is so easy with the team he had. Man U's 4 men midfield was a mediocre Park, Giggs, Carrick and Valencia in 2011.
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Old 21-07-2016, 09:53:PM   #37
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No one denies Pep's quality. He took great meat, great bread and great vegetables and made an awesome burger, perhaps the best burger. But we don't know if he can make an awesome or even great burger with average ingredients. This is a legitimate point that will keep coming up until he actually attempts it. You can get mad about it but there is no denying the argument. Sure, Messi and the rest weren't as good before he came but the quality, infrastructure, funds and relative lack of competition are there at every turn.
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Old 21-07-2016, 10:10:PM   #38
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Pep is one of the few revolutions in the game, he is not only a lot pf trophies.
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Old 22-07-2016, 03:07:AM   #39
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