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Old 27-07-2015, 10:25:PM   #53
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Nady doesnt understand the way Guardiola teams defend. They dont chase back they have long passing sequences so when you lose the ball your team players are very close each other and only has to press to get the ball back in less than 5-3 seconds
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Old 27-07-2015, 10:37:PM   #54
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When you have made 20/30 passes its very easy to get the ball back because your opponent is disorganized and your team has a lot of players near to the ball.


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Old 28-07-2015, 03:44:AM   #55
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If he meshes Vidal will be awesome, I think he's going to have a shit 6 months though so it depends if Pep sticks with him
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Old 28-07-2015, 04:01:AM   #56
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It took Keita (same profile of player) time to adapt to positional game too.
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Old 28-07-2015, 05:16:PM   #57
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Nady doesnt understand the way Guardiola teams defend. They dont chase back they have long passing sequences so when you lose the ball your team players are very close each other and only has to press to get the ball back in less than 5-3 seconds
Haven't watched Bayern play in a very long time so you're right. On paper Robben RWB looks strange but I don't know how the new Guardiola tactics work.
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Old 28-07-2015, 05:25:PM   #58
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Its just his natural position. Its a 3-4-3. Guardiola let his defenders 1on1 (when the opponent manage to counter attack) with forwards many times.
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Old 28-07-2015, 06:59:PM   #59
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It's going to be a disappointing transfer (especially for the money) if he changes the Bayern class to being a chippy team. The only thing this guy brings a punk attitude that isn't the type that fits Bayern imo.
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Old 28-07-2015, 08:40:PM   #60
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Haven't watched Bayern play in a very long time so you're right. On paper Robben RWB looks strange but I don't know how the new Guardiola tactics work.
He's there on paper to make the tactic look symmetrical and because he'll mostly be on the left wing, but he's a forward. As Arnau said.
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Old 28-07-2015, 09:01:PM   #61
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Do you think 3-4-3 can win a Champions League? He changed to 4-man defence at camp nou before 20 minutes...

Good thing is that the team is very versatile, can change formation within the game.

EDIT: He almost manage it in 2012. I remember we beat Real Madrid 1-3 at Bernabeu with 3-4-3 that season.
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Old 28-07-2015, 09:08:PM   #62
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Yes I think it can, but he can't do it crazy like he did at Camp Nou. Rafinha at LCB, no one whatsoever on the right side of the field.

And I think Barcelona is a special case, because it's probably the only team that can keep the ball away from Bayern. Against anyone else, I think Bayern can play their normal style; against Barcelona it is too dangerous. If anyone else has a good amount of possession, then the traditional positioning becomes important.
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Old 28-07-2015, 09:15:PM   #63
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I dont think Barça cant take the ball away from Bayern, Xavi doesnt exist anymore and Luis Enrique's game model is much more direct.

But i agree its a suicide defending Neymar-Messi-Suarez 1on1... There will be a phase of the game where Barça would dominate and these 3 need very few to kill the game.
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Old 28-07-2015, 09:26:PM   #64
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Training before playing Barca should just be Robben running around for 2 hours in a Messi jersey and everyone else trying to take the ball away.
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"we only have one right-back, rafinha," guardiola said, adding that lahm "will play in midfield one day, but also compete with rafinha the other."

"i am delighted to see him play in midfield. He reads the game well. But he has a lot of competition in midfield."
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